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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:25 pm

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In post 306, Quaroath wrote:
In post 277, Radja wrote:
Town
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scum


Klingoncelt

GrayFoxxxx

Nero Cain

Salamence20

pisskop
ika
Mainez

PMysterious

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Quaroath

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VOTE: Klingon

I like this wagon.


So your scum is .. Policy, policy, and the guy calling you out for policy lynch hunting.

You are so good as this game.
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Yes, that's why I questioned policy lynches in the first place. If you're not going to read my posts, don't bother commenting.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:25 pm

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In post 72, Radja wrote:Policy lynch on day 1? How would that be a good strategy? We'll have no information to go on day 2.


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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:26 pm

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In post 308, Boonskiies wrote:I'll make a reads list like that.

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Wtf-lean scum, but meh, could see town
Super awesome town



Klingoncelt

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Quaroath

evilpacman18

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ConManMick

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Kaboose

Espeonage



you might want to add me to that list. Just saying
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:38 pm

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He forgot to add his buddy?
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:40 pm

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In post 328, ConManMick wrote:He forgot to add his buddy?


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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:43 pm

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In post 278, RadiantCowbells wrote:Image

Votecount #1.5

Kaboose
(5): Jazzmyn, ConManMick, Grayfoxxxx, Espeonage, Pisskop
Klingoncelt
(3): Nero Cain, Salamence20, Radja
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Radja
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(1): Mainez

Not voting
(5): ika, evilpacman18, SithLord84, Boonskiies, PMysterious

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Night falls in (expired on 2015-07-18 12:00:00).

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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:57 pm

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In post 330, I Am Innocent wrote:

My preference on the wagons above would be Radja > Kaboose > Klingon > PM > Nero

can you explain? so do you find all to be scummy but radja to be the most or what?
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:01 am

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In post 63, Kaboose wrote:So far I'm scum reading everyone. I feel like the mod's next post may endgame me.


What was the point of this post?

In post 130, Kaboose wrote:Okay cool, so if she is ascetic then I'll confirm her as town. Let me make a list.


In post 131, Kaboose wrote:Well not really confirm confirm, but feel really confident.


In post 133, Kaboose wrote:If WW is telling the truth, then I'm believing they are town based on my role. That's how I'm coming to that conclusion.


In post 146, Kaboose wrote:It's d1, the gamestate sucks and I know that WW is about 90% town.

Grayfoxxxx, that's such a terrible vote. What do you want me to say? You want me to fill a list out that is based around facts with false reads that get no where? It's simply a list for me to keep up with as the puzzle gets pieced together.

But apparently you want me to go down a list of players on D1 and say town or scum for all of them? That's a waste of time.

Also more than just me commented that what boonskies said was perfectly fine to do.


In post 153, Kaboose wrote:It's not a read. If you would read, you would know that the claim that person made has all but confirmed WW town to me.


In post 154, Kaboose wrote:I'm not trying to solve it today. But I'm going to have everything ready for you when you all mislynch me or I get NKd. It's a list, of what I KNOW. When I flip, you all will KNOW the same stuff at that point. Hence why I asked you all to just trust me in one of my early posts. I don't expect anyone to just believe me now, but there will possibly be a time when I'm dead and you know I'm town and from that you'll know this list was useful and you can use it after that.


In post 159, Kaboose wrote:
So I can't be town trying to help? Thanks, I appreciate your vote of confidence.

Also me knowing what my role is helps me believe WW's claim is correct. Because I believe the claim I'm fully ready to label them 100% town as long as they're telling the truth about the claim. I endorse them completely.

Why is that hard to understand? The game is a puzzle, two pieces have to connect eventually, and it just so happens these pieces fit together enough for me to know this.

I'm sorry you don't understand.


In post 161, Kaboose wrote:I'm just trying to provide the most information I can. I was able to confirm someone town and I think that is a good play to make.

We start with no information, we win when we get enough information to make informed decisions. If I can confirm someone, then I would like to think this is a positive to be shared with the group. It's not like me doing this has put their life in danger any more than it already was. Given the fact scum already know WW is town, they didn't need to be told. However town do need to be told. WW could make every post in the game "I'm town." to us, but how are we to believe them? I have decided to endorse WW as town to let the rest of you know it from someone other than their own mouth.


In post 284, Kaboose wrote:I know he isn't to you, but I can pretty much assure you Sal is town.


The wishy washiness is killing me:
"so if she is ascetic then I'll confirm her as town." - Complete confidence
"Well not really confirm confirm, but feel really confident" - Very confident
"If WW is telling the truth, then I'm believing they are town based on my role" - Only confident if WW is telling the truth
"and I know that WW is about 90% town." - Very confident
"you would know that the claim that person made has all but confirmed WW town to me" - Just short of complete confidence?
"Because I believe the claim I'm fully ready to label them 100% town as long as they're telling the truth about the claim." - Only confident if WW is telling the truth
"I was able to confirm someone town and I think that is a good play to make" - Complete confidence
"but I can pretty much assure you Sal is town" - Very confident

This wishy washiness is chronologically no less. Yeah I know what I just said in that prior post about wagon preference, but I changed my mind. I'm going with Kaboose.

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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:04 am

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In post 270, Nero Cain wrote:Its possible that she could do this regardless of alignment but I think its well within her scum meta to chainsaw defend her scum buddy wich is prob ika. Piss is a maybe but Ika most likely.

but even if you think I have 3 posts out of 45 pushing for an Ika pl then I don't understand how that is the majority. Unless you are really really bad at math.

What game was this with ika and house? Can i get a link

I didn't say a majority of your posts were about policy lynch but it seemed like a majority of the games posts revolved around policy lynch discussion
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:04 am

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In post 331, Mainez wrote:
In post 330, I Am Innocent wrote:

My preference on the wagons above would be Radja > Kaboose > Klingon > PM > Nero

can you explain? so do you find all to be scummy but radja to be the most or what?


Radja and Kaboose scummy,
Klingon unsure, but willing to trust Nero (tho I do say most of my reads are opposite Nero's)
PM not feeling it
Nero is the best scumhunter I've played with in this player list, so yeah, not willing to vote for him D1. If he's scum, I'll figure it out eventually
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:05 am

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In post 273, Espeonage wrote:This is really really horrifically bad.

I actually agree but I still think nero is the right lynch
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:06 am

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In post 302, Nero Cain wrote:This is celt avoiding me

meh not really
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:08 am

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In post 169, Nero Cain wrote:this from celt is extremely manipulative.

It's only manipulative if it's not true.

Is it true?

@kelt - can i get links to where nero does this as scum?
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:22 am

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332 is just trying to look for stuff to call scummy. He's literally just quoting everyone of his quotes and saying, hey look this is scummy because yadda yadda. Could do the exact same thing and turn it into a town perspective.

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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:24 am

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I think my read on mence is a playstyle thing, so I'm going to set that aside. My current lynch pool is Kaboose and PMysterious.

The lack of jumps on to PM despite the general agreement that my call out has merit also leads me to believe that they are mostly made of town players, which is null for PM but good for the people commenting on it.

IAI is looking good, but not sure if that just comparatively to the rest of the playerlist.

I can maybe compromise on Klingon.

@People vehemently against Kaboose lynch. With Kaboose wagon at twice the size of any other wagon, this is where you need to start actually coming up with something, because if you are getting town from his posts, it is evidently not the general consensus.
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:25 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61337

In post 1245, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1222, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1208, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1207, Nero Cain wrote:So I'm 100% this far



Unless you're Scum this time, right?

What does this even mean?



You said you correctly read House's alignment in every game. This suggests that you're reading him correctly in this game as well.

If you are Scum, though, that would make an exception to your psychic streak, you'd just be scumreading him for the sake of a mislynch.

So I'm FoSing you. That's what it means.


In post 336, WoodyWoodpecker wrote:
In post 302, Nero Cain wrote:This is celt avoiding me

meh not really

So she has responded to my case on her, explained why she wasn't voting me until you and Boons piled on me and expounded on why she even had a scum read on me in the fist place? Geez, I must be getting really old if I missed all that.

I am also not buying her "I'm in 9 other games!" like that's a valid excuse for anything.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:25 am

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In post 338, Boonskiies wrote:332 is just trying to look for stuff to call scummy. He's literally just quoting everyone of his quotes and saying, hey look this is scummy because yadda yadda. Could do the exact same thing and turn it into a town perspective.

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You know, I'd actually really love if you did this. Because we can't see it, which is the entirety of why you are getting annoyed at the wagon.
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:27 am

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In post 339, Espeonage wrote:@People vehemently against Kaboose lynch. With Kaboose wagon at twice the size of any other wagon, this is where you need to start actually coming up with something, because if you are getting town from his posts, it is evidently not the general consensus.

I read kaboose as town and he is not on my list of people to lynch day 1. It's mostly gut though and I feel like he's acting in a way that scum wouldn't. It also seems like this is a scum motivated wagon because it definitely feels like he is hinting at some sort of pr or something and scum would definitely rather take that out with a lynch instead of a nk
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:28 am

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I'll look that over later nero. Thanks
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:31 am

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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:32 am

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In post 341, Espeonage wrote:
In post 338, Boonskiies wrote:332 is just trying to look for stuff to call scummy. He's literally just quoting everyone of his quotes and saying, hey look this is scummy because yadda yadda. Could do the exact same thing and turn it into a town perspective.

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You know, I'd actually really love if you did this. Because we can't see it, which is the entirety of why you are getting annoyed at the wagon.


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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:35 am

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In post 328, ConManMick wrote:He forgot to add his buddy?


he copied my list.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:38 am

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IAI, move your vote to Celt plox.
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:58 am

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Hey Nero. why would you want to pull people off the Kaboose wagon at this point in time given it's size in comparison to other wagons?
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:05 am

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b/c I am interested in lynching scum.
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