Open 604 - Fire and Ice - Fire mafia wins!

[Klick]

I wouldn't say I'm joking.

Bella, do you have any completed scum games?

[Bellaphant]

I know, I'm assuming Con's 'scum-read for the penguin' was the joke.

Yep, quite a few. To the point where I nearly bet on it. Want some links?

[Klick]

Yes please.

[gameplay506]

Ok fire you want my vote right?
VOTE: Fire
I am thinking of trolling this through guyz

[Bellaphant]

Ok: my second game/first scum game. Proud of this: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=60998
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=61720 This was fun, but we lost down to POE
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=61724 - ika modded this. We won. He also knows a bit more about how scum!me thinks now.

[Prolapsed Brain]

I know, I'm assuming Con's 'scum-read for the penguin' was the joke.

Yep, quite a few. To the point where I nearly bet on it. Want some links?

Why wouldn't you interpret the question as wanting links in the first place? Why are you avoiding giving the links? Are you trying to hide something? (Note: I see some links have been provided; I am very curious as to why the links weren't included in the above post.)

[Bellaphant]

'Coz some people hate self-selected meta, PB. I could've chosen specific games, to paint myself a specific way, or let klick chose. She asked for links - I've given her my first and last (wins) and a loss, seems a representative sample. That's all.

[Mist7676]

Hello everybody, I see we've already started with RVS! Wait ew, I got a vote on me? Reconsider using that vote for a proper purpose thank you!

From this RVS, I can get a few reads, nothing permanent just yet, but I do have some opinions:

Klick is playing too hard, coming right out of RVS with apparently serious tells.
ConMan is taking RVS too far by making nonserious posts as well. I mean I'm fine with RVS being non-serious votes, but non-serious posts are going a bit far.
Vonflare is scum for obvious fire related reasons.
Which brings me to the Firebringer wagon, does anyone have any serious reasons as to why this guy already has 4 votes? If there are no scum on the wagon and he is a townie, he could be mislynched. Just saying~
I have no other real opinions at this time.

(PEDIT: Klick is a male!)

[gameplay506]

Pay attention to me or I'll fall into lurking.

[Mist7676]

Pay attention to me or I'll fall into lurking.

What is your opinions on the game so far?

[gameplay506]

Boring as hell
Klick is town tho

[ika]

VOTE: swordmaster

lets get lyncihing

[gameplay506]

VOTE: swordmaster
I like it

[ConManMick]

More serious? Pffft, no.
Swords are sharp.
Sharp hurts people.
Scum hurts people.
Scum = sharp (thus the sharp suits)
Scum = sword
VOTE: swordmaster

[Bellaphant]

Hey, conman, I will PL you if you continue rvs shit-post anymore. k?

[ConManMick]

PL lynches for RVS are scummy

[Bellaphant]

Yup. But we're not in RVS any more.

[TheCow]

What does PL mean?

In any case, I'm finding this random phase to be interesting. ConMan's response to people asking him to be more serious was an even less serious post, meanwhile, several other players are already developing reads.

The first three votes were on firebringer for "fire reasons", all three seem understandable in a random phase sense -- though sheeping can be concerning any any circumstance. Of course, the fourth voting being thrown on is what bothers me. In a 13 player game, majority should be 7 -- unless I've suddenly become stupid. Going over the half way point during such a phase seems unwise to me, though the vote itself could simply be a misguided vote, rather than a malicious one. I don't know gameplay506 well enough to make a metagame-based read in this regard, though I'm favoring the former in his/her case, seeing as fire's post before the vote was replaced was one of asking for votes.

Things brings me to my next question: the gradient between those who appear serious and those who jest confuses me. Is this normal, 3 pages into the game?

My thoughts are currently pretty jumbled. I'll work on sorting them out next time I attempt to present them.

[Mist7676]

Boring as hell
Klick is town tho

Why do you say so?

Hey, conman, I will PL you if you continue rvs shit-post anymore. k?

Agreed.

What does PL mean?

Policy Lynch. Lynching a player because you don't like the way they play instead of viewing them as scum.

[ConManMick]

I am slow and stupid

So yes

[Tatsuya Kaname]

Boring as hell
Klick is town tho

Why do you say so?

2nding

[Klick]

I'm leaning town on Bella, comparing her scum meta to a couple of town games I read of hers. I won't go into detail, because that would make what I'm seeing easier to manipulate should Bella be scum.

Mist, I have a feeling you're never going to townread me.
I do have a question for you though: do you actually think there's any chance of Firebringer being lynched this early? Maybe it's just me having more faith in the current meta than I should, but I really can't see someone being dumb enough to hammer this early.

ika totally ignored my push on him in favor of voting someone who hasn't posted anything but a confirm. Ironically, Sword Master has posted the same amount of actual content ika has. That vote is now 10x more serious.

ConMan, you should vote ika with me.

[ConManMick]

I don't think ika intends to respond to your post. I'm considering it, but as evidenced I'm still borderline RVS.

[ConManMick]

Actually there's no risk to the lad so I might as well. VOTE: ika
Very much subject to change.

[Klick]

I know ika probably doesn't intend to respond to me. I want to make him.