Saki Achiga-hen episode of side-A Mafia [OK]

[farside22]

Scum usually have more scum reads than town.
One of the main reasons I'm townreading both him and Elbrin.

And his townreads align with mine.

Is this in regards to xto?
The player with no scum reads and pushing no one?

[pieguyn]

votecount 1.25

Cabd (5) - lufan131, Varsoon, Elbirn, Nachomamma8, farside22

Nachomamma8 (4) - Bitmap, Profgessor Emotion, Kuro Matsumi, Voidedmafia
Marquis (3) - Benjamin Applebaum, Bins, singersigner
lufan131 (2) - Cabd, InflatablePie
singersigner (1) - pidgey
pidgey (1) - Gin and Sonic
Xtoxm (1) - Chandra Nalaar
Voidedmafia (1) - Marquis
Gin and Sonic (1) - ZZZX

Not voting (1) - Xtoxm

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch. Deadline is July 21, 13:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-07-21 13:00:00).

InflatablePie is V/LA until July 12.

[Elbirn]

Three pages behind but uh... I actually forgot lufan was one of my old pokemon site people and tbh nothing about him is particularly remarkable? I couldn't actually tell you his playstyle whatsoever. I was actually treating him as somebody I remembered maybe playing a newbie game with or something here on ms.

Drinking code red, waking up, catching up.

So you remember I'm a lolsenior with no way I'm dropping my jokes... YAY!

Hey lufan, I asked earlier but I'll just repost.

1. Do you have any other insight/reasons for your cabd read?

2. Do you have any other scumreads aside from cabd?

[Kuro Matsumi]

I still think Nachomamma-san's the better lynch, his post regarding Cabd felt dishonest.

[Voidedmafia]

Three pages behind but uh... I actually forgot lufan was one of my old pokemon site people and tbh nothing about him is particularly remarkable? I couldn't actually tell you his playstyle whatsoever. I was actually treating him as somebody I remembered maybe playing a newbie game with or something here on ms.

Drinking code red, waking up, catching up.

I'm...honestly not sure if this is town-cover-up or scum-cover-up, and it makes me feel sad because I feel like it should definitely be one way or the other.

Xtoxm is probably town

Why? Because of the above post

Sonic is probly not town.

Why? Because of the above post.

So you remember I'm a lolsenior with no way I'm dropping my jokes... YAY!

Yeah, let's do away with this soon.

[Voidedmafia]

Scum usually have more scum reads than town.
One of the main reasons I'm townreading both him and Elbrin.

And his townreads align with mine.

Who's? Xtoxm's?

I still think Nachomamma-san's the better lynch, his post regarding Cabd felt dishonest.

It's like everything around Cabd feels dishonest, really.

[lufan131]

Three pages behind but uh... I actually forgot lufan was one of my old pokemon site people and tbh nothing about him is particularly remarkable? I couldn't actually tell you his playstyle whatsoever. I was actually treating him as somebody I remembered maybe playing a newbie game with or something here on ms.

Drinking code red, waking up, catching up.

So you remember I'm a lolsenior with no way I'm dropping my jokes... YAY!

Hey lufan, I asked earlier but I'll just repost.

1. Do you have any other insight/reasons for your cabd read?

2. Do you have any other scumreads aside from cabd?

1. I don't think so, other than how his play is just different than he usually does, and it feels like he's withholding something

2. not currently.

[Bins]

yes.

to both of those.

[InflatablePie]

gotta catch up, but I went back and looked at the Varsoon wagon at its peak: Kuro, me, Elbirn, Nacho, singer

soooooo townreads + nacho who I have difficulty reading bleh

my theory of 'Varsoon wagon slowly diffusing = scum unwilling to actually bus this early' has crumbled

I mean Nacho could still be a bus but... ... can't we just lynch Varsoon

unvote

because that's not going anywhere, also why the fuck is Cabd being wagoned

bbl reading

[InflatablePie]

Chandra can you not unnecessarily split your posts (p22-23), walls are fine thanks

Who the hell is pidgey
have they even posted yet?

Pidgey is awesome shut up

Im kinda reading but holy fuck why are there 24 pages
inb4 hur hur apathetic hur hur

I really want to call Beetlejuice Tell on this

his reads list also just has me/Elbirn as town with everything else being ???

Hi pidgey! You are town, so that's cool

explain

His thoughts seem pretty real to me. Some were deeper than they needed to be.

really, because all I read is "PIE AND ELBIRN ARE TOWN. EVERYONE ELSE CAN BE SOEMTHING, I DUNNO, SURE"

VOTE: pidgey

Intro posts are fking scummy

... sigh

isn't pie like, the mod or something

of course he's town, duhh.......

mod-confirmed

(this has happened before, I feel like I should get ownership of "Pie" because join-date-dibs but I'm willing to take the high road and go by iPie or something)

I think nacho is probably easy lynch bait but I wouldnt really cry if we lynch him
Marquis I cant really get a read on
Lufan I wouldnt care if we killed but a lot of people hoping early makes me weary
And cabd feels town to me at the moment.

more uselessness


so after Nacho's post w/r/t Varsoon I'm having trouble seeing him pushing this as scum if Varsoon was scum??

I also really really like that post so...

hmm

@those voting Nacho - thoughts on Varsoon w/r/t above?

Xtoxm is probably town

Why? Because of the above post

explain

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vote pidgey

for now

[farside22]

Yea pidgy post are pretty useless

[Kuro Matsumi]

... sigh

I share your sentiment... I also had that same reaction.

[pieguyn]

Benjamin Applebaum has been prodded.

[Bins]

V/LA until Wednesday night, because I'll be camping.

[pieguyn]

V/LA until Wednesday night, because I'll be camping.

Noted.

[Benjamin Applebaum]

Whoops.

Busy weekend, catching up tomorrow on my day off.

[Bitmap]

Sorry, I'll post tomorrow.

[Elbirn]

In response to lufan's 806.

Here's what I'm getting out of this cabd/lufan affair so far.

Cabds reason for pushing lufan is that he hadn't done anything remarkable. As in, he came in and made one fluff post. Votes lufan. He then went into tunnel mode and has not seen the light of day since.

Lufan votes cabd in his second post. Says cabd playing style is off, not what he's familiar with, and that cabd is "hiding something".

When asked, Cabd says he doesn't even remember lufan.

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So...
Cabd doesn't remember lufan. But apparently they're familiar enough that lufan claims that cabd isn't playing the way he's used to.

These two ideas don't jive.
one or both of these pushes are disingenuous.

[Elbirn]

I'm reading over both of their isos, and Cabds push on lufan reads more and more like bullshit the more I think about it. Lufan's isn't exactly great but he at least took the time to put a gutread into words, whereas cabd just...bleh. it reads awkward and forced.

Cabd, please explain your post 396. Why are Varsy-baby and Mara scumspects but only if lufan is scum? Cuz to me it looks like some kind of crap added on to a read to give it more "credibility".

"The case on either of you is weaker than the case on him" (paraphrased). The case on two random unassociated people is weaker than your case on one guy, which could be summed up as "he hasn't done anything"?

[Elbirn]

Cabd @ 788

Where did inflatable pie go? You had him as town-town in your last reads list. What changed?

[Elbirn]

Lufan @ 806

Let's try a different angle then. Who are you currently reading as town, and why?

[InflatablePie]

hey Elbirn, you never did explain why Gin & Sonic is town, did ya

as for Cabid v lufan, I'd vote lufan again between the two because he's offered less content overall and Cabed is pretty darn town, but I really would rather pressure elsewhere

also, to be fair, it's not

necessary

that at least one push is 'disingenuous'. like, I can see a world where they're both town and lufan is just shitty at using meta or something? it would explain a lot.

as for the people voting Cabud:
lufan - lack of reaction to wagon pressure confuses me. with that plus lack of other content besides this 1v1, I can't really read him.
Varsoon - no comment necessary
Elbirn - your Cabad and Varsoon reads are literally backwards and I wish you'd reconsider
Nacho - most probably not scum with Varsoon... um, so in 741 you said Cabod was pushing lufan because "the reason [lufan] was lurking is because his scum buddy came under fire early" when he only said it's "very possible" that was the case, in 141... it's not a backbone for his case and you're making it seem like it is.
farside - I don't know why you're voting Cabyd, but if it's just sheeping Nacho, see above then come join me on the pidgey wagon or something.

@Cadb - I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Nacho, considering your stances on lufan/Varsoon.

[pieguyn]

Marquis and singersigner have been prodded.

[Elbirn]

hey Elbirn, you never did explain why Gin & Sonic is town, did ya

as for Cabid v lufan, I'd vote lufan again between the two because he's offered less content overall and Cabed is pretty darn town, but I really would rather pressure elsewhere

also, to be fair, it's not

necessary

that at least one push is 'disingenuous'. like, I can see a world where they're both town and lufan is just shitty at using meta or something? it would explain a lot.

Elbirn - your Cabad and Varsoon reads are literally backwards and I wish you'd reconsider

Sonic is just town. I have reason to believe that. If you think otherwise, I'm willing to listen.

Lufan has less content, but that doesn't mean more likely scum. Also his posts where he explains his gut read on Cabd feels...genuine. it's lucid and seems truthful? Like I know that's bullshit but I believe it. I believe that lufan believes what he said. If lufan were scum making something up I don't believe he'd have said what he said. Whereas I read Cabds posts and they don't seem right.

What makes cabd pretty darn town to you?

What makes varsoon scum?

If you've answered either of those two questions already a simple "go read my iso you lazy so and so" will do again though, I'm willing to listen.

Also I suppose it's not necessary for one to be scum and I don't mean to fearmonger, I just want to know *why* what's going on there doesn't seem to mesh.

[pieguyn]

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