Mini 1697 - a Re-balanced Game of Mafia - GAME OVER


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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:25 pm

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Official Vote Count


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(2): All Alone, Quaroath
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(1): PMysterious
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(1): RadiantCowbells
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(1): Alchemist21

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(3): Thesp, Sword Master, Firebringer

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:52 am

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In post 91, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh dear lord

he is scummy because 1) he tried to divert attention from my firebringer wagon in a very sideways way
and 2) the only content post he makes calls someone out without a vote or any sort of follow up

not because he asked people how experienced they are.

comprende?


I think your read on Thesp makes sense, but I also agree with Alchemist that you should've put your vote on Thesp and not on Firebringer.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:44 am

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In post 64, Sword Master wrote:I've finally found the thread. Lol.

And...?

Post or Perish.




In post 70, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like, then he comes back and addresses the ongoing game issue but doesn't comment at all on alignment, nor any of the responses.

My apologies, I didn't think it to be as interesting as you apparently do. I'm liking Alchemist21's points re: RadiantCowbells's potential hypocrisy.

In post 80, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like, Thesp's deliberate attempt to undo progress made in the game

Wha? Are you seriously characterizing your post #7 as progress in the game, and my inquiries to all players as an attempt to undo that? :?

Would it make a difference if you were to learn that I always open games by asking questions of everyone? Also, I appreciate the content so far (misguided as I think it may be), but I would also appreciate your responses to my questions earlier, and hope it's not too much of an imposition.




In post 87, All Alone wrote:This comment from Thesp looks like scumhunting but really isn't. He's not analyzing Pistachi0n's alignment, he's not asking her anything meaningful. It's like information instead of analysis, except it's not even informative.

This is fair - though I was really hoping to see pistachi0n's next post before I comment further on this.




I'd still like responses from PMysterious and Sword Master as well. I'm honestly a bit dumbfounded that my opening questions have garnered the specific type of attention I'm getting from RadiantCowbells. (I sometimes get stick-in-the-mud types who insist on not answering and making a big deal about that, but those types are more likely scum in my recent experience.) I'm not feeling the "Thesp is changing the subject" angle as feeling very genuine. That said, I'm not interested in a RadiantCowbells lynch today.

I expect I'll place a vote in the next 24 hours, and it's quite possibly on a lurker (or on someone else within a different parameter I'll mention later).
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:06 am

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In response to 33, no, I'm not claiming scum, I'm giving a silly answer. It was worth questioning me on, and it was worth questioning TheDominator on as well.

I'm town-reading Thesp for the questions he asked. It gave us a lot of information, not because of the answers themselves, but because of what people thought of the questions and how people responded to other people's answers to the questions. It started discussion, that's a good thing.

I read 7 as an RVS vote when it was posted. If you're voting on post 7 and don't want it to be read as RVS, you need to specify. I think Radiant vs Alchemist is TvT, but a lot of Radiant's arguments hinge on "I casted a non-RVS vote on Firebringer and nobody responded/people changed the subject." How were we supposed to know it was non-RVS?
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:26 am

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PMysterious and eventi have been prodded
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:32 am

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In post 98, Firebringer wrote: Calls Alchemist Scum and says I am not scum, that was fast. quickly says that alchemist isn't scum but is a asset to scum and wants to lynch regardless. Anti town heavy here.

You train on both me and Alchemist after we voted you. OMGUS

Your reasoning for me is faulty, your reasoning for Alchemist is non existant and you even now say he is town. Pick one. If you think I am scum vote me, if you think its Alchemist vote him, like honestly you are the worst town if you are one, which I doubt.

I suggest everyone move onto Radiant train, he is likely evil.


Then you should vote RC too.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:44 am

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I'm liking Alchemist21's points re: RadiantCowbells's potential hypocrisy.


(I sometimes get stick-in-the-mud types who insist on not answering and making a big deal about that, but those types are more likely scum in my recent experience.) I'm not feeling the "Thesp is changing the subject" angle as feeling very genuine.


Both two 'reasons' to vote me, and one 'reason' to vote All Alone.

That said, I'm not interested in a RadiantCowbells lynch today.[/quote]

So he says he'd rather go onto lurkers than people he has scumpoints against.

That makes a ton of sense.

Wha? Are you seriously characterizing your post #7 as progress in the game, and my inquiries to all players as an attempt to undo that? :?

Yes, and yes.

Would it make a difference if you were to learn that I always open games by asking questions of everyone? Also, I appreciate the content so far (misguided as I think it may be), but I would also appreciate your responses to my questions earlier, and hope it's not too much of an imposition.


Why are you doubling down on this?

RVS is over.

You trying to drag me back to this strikes me as odd.

Then you should vote RC too.


Why not ask Thesp to vote me too, given he's already expressed a scumread on me for two different reasons?

1) How much Mafia have you played before (in person or online)?

4 years worth.

2) How active are you typically in a Mafia game? That is, is there sort of a posts per day frequency that's approximately typical for you?

About 3.

3) Are you scum?

No.

How were we supposed to know it was non-RVS?


Because I just finished talking about how it was fucking scummy?
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:44 am

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Amazing quote tags.
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:50 am

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Wait wait wait.

What do you want?



That's an interesting reaction to a single RVS vote.


Firebringer is awfully defensive.


Nothing here indicates a non-RVS vote to you?
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:20 am

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In post 106, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why are you doubling down on this?

RVS is over.

You trying to drag me back to this strikes me as odd.

No, I'm curious if your reaction to my opening post is different if I open every game I play in a similar manner. (It appears to be a strong basis for your vote on me, so I feel it's worth exploring. I'm still curious - would it affect your read to know I always open the same way?) Thank you for your responses to my other questions!

In post 108, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Wait wait wait.

What do you want?



That's an interesting reaction to a single RVS vote.


Firebringer is awfully defensive.


Nothing here indicates a non-RVS vote to you?

Not in a terribly strong or interesting way. I don't seem to be the only person with that sentiment. As an aside from a policy standpoint, I can't imagine it would be beneficial to tunnel on one person before half the player list had posted.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:01 am

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In post 105, Alchemist21 wrote:
Then you should vote RC too.

I thought I did....

I think I unvoted him because he was tunneling me so hard I didn't think Scum would do that.

Anyways, he is using horrible logic and I think he could be scum trying to FoS me and label you as Scum for calling him out on his bad logic.

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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:09 am

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VOTE: Firebringer

I don't believe you forgot who are you voting.
Your excuses look like scum faked his reads and forgot to vote.
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:15 am

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In post 111, Netherspite wrote:VOTE: Firebringer

I don't believe you forgot who are you voting.
Your excuses look like scum faked his reads and forgot to vote.

So far everything you said in this game has made me facepalm.

You read so much into stuff that you make up stories for everything.

1 Person tells a joke you say he is admitting to being scum
I say I forgot I unvoted you say "ohh you know you did and this is blatant lie"
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:56 am

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No, I'm curious if your reaction to my opening post is different if I open every game I play in a similar manner. (It appears to be a strong basis for your vote on me, so I feel it's worth exploring. I'm still curious - would it affect your read to know I always open the same way?) Thank you for your responses to my other questions!


Why would you do that?

We had non-RVS content. What's so important about asking those 3 questions that it justifies distracting people from actual gameplay.

You may do it in every game, but this game has legitimate content before it and I bet most of yours don't.

What's so important about your random questions?

Not in a terribly strong or interesting way. I don't seem to be the only person with that sentiment. As an aside from a policy standpoint, I can't imagine it would be beneficial to tunnel on one person before half the player list had posted.


Still way better to start off with something than fully reset the game.

And yeah, the push was exaggerated. All RVS pushes are exaggerated. You get the wagon, you see how people react to it, it snowballs into content.

How is it "tunneling" to push a wagon in RVS? That's how you end RVS to get into real content. Firebringer was not confirmed scum because of his defensiveness, but it would have been a way better lead into the game than we ended up getting.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:58 am

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so far Radiant all thats been proven is you are bad town at worse or bad scum. Your pressure on me was fine but your reasons faulty (you make up stuff in RVS and say it isn't RVS when everyone around here knows it is) then you push a lynch on Alchemist saying he is TOWN but bad.
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:05 pm

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@rad mind If I call you that? And could you please keep the name in your quoted it is troublesome for me to read
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:07 pm

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This is the first game ever that I have had no reads this far
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:19 pm

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In post 116, TheDominator37 wrote:This is the first game ever that I have had no reads this far

You honestly don't see Radiant behavior a little suspicious?
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:16 pm

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In post 116, TheDominator37 wrote:This is the first game ever that I have had no reads this far


Really? In 40 you said you had a tentative townread on fire.

In 53 you said you were starting to scum-read Nether.

And now you have no reads whatsoever?
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:34 pm

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I'm feeling really shitty about mafia right now.

I don't feel like doing this.
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[quote="In post 97, Netherspite"][/quote]

Is was that or saying fuck off.

RCBs sarcastic / pissy interruption was unneeded and the only point was to antagonize. Guess what she succeeded.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:42 pm

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In post 119, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm feeling really shitty about mafia right now.

I don't feel like doing this.

Because we figured you out?

Got you mafia!
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:44 pm

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Alright, that's gotta be scum.

VOTE: Firebringer
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:44 pm

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You are so funny.

Get lynched Mafia.
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:28 pm

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In post 102, Thesp wrote:
In post 87, All Alone wrote:This comment from Thesp looks like scumhunting but really isn't. He's not analyzing Pistachi0n's alignment, he's not asking her anything meaningful. It's like information instead of analysis, except it's not even informative.

This is fair - though I was really hoping to see pistachi0n's next post before I comment further on this.


Pistachi0n posted after this in , and your didn't comment further on it. Why not?
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