Mini 1675 ~ Choose Your Side (Game Over)

[Nachomamma8]

I AM GROOT

Hey, Nacho.

2 for yes, 1 for no.

Were you role-connected to Jeanne11?

I am Groot.

[UshiromiyaAnge]

Vote Count XIII:

CooLDoG (3) ~ Plotinus, massive, Oversoul
McMenno (2) ~ Maruchan, miss
Plotinus (1) ~ CooLDoG
wgeurts (1) ~ wgeurts

Not Voting:

diginova, McMenno, Nachomamma8, Klingoncelt, MewThree

--With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
--Deadline is July 18, 2015 at 20:00 EDT.

(5 days left)

[MewThree]

Can anyone opposed to a D2 massive lynch raise their hand,

raise their hand,

massive is scum, dude. the question is, are you scum with him?

VOTE:

groot

nacho

[Oversoul]

So we have 5 days...
Probably should start to consolidate our votes now.

Join the CoolDog wagon!

[wgeurts]

Or vote me?

[Klingoncelt]

Klingoncelt feels like she's always about thirty posts behind whenever she posts. This seems less scummy in this game than in most, since it means she feels she can afford to be lax about reading. It MIGHT mean she has a scumbuddy, but I think it's more likely that she feels confident relying on the town in general.

Not exactly.

So, I should be scumreading you then?

Nice way to take my reply too far out of context. Here's what really happened:

Post #516
In post 514, massive wrote:
Klingoncelt feels like she's always about thirty posts behind whenever she posts. This seems less scummy in this game than in most, since it means she feels she can afford to be lax about reading. It MIGHT mean she has a scumbuddy, but I think it's more likely that she feels confident relying on the town in general.


Klingon replied:
Not exactly.

I come on here later in the day and overnight, when all of you are asleep.

You day people post around 10am to 6pm eastern, mostly.

VOTE: massive

[Plotinus]

@Klingon: massive is on fire and votes for him don’t count. Some people have tried voting him but it doesn’t show up on the vote counts. Join us on cooldog instead. We can try to do massive toMorrow if you want, infinite shot lynchproof is broken so he has to run out of shots eventually.

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingon: massive is on fire and votes for him don’t count. Some people have tried voting him but it doesn’t show up on the vote counts. Join us on cooldog instead. We can try to do massive toMorrow if you want, infinite shot lynchproof is broken so he has to run out of shots eventually.

I'll ISO CoolDog... Give me a minute...

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

Plotinus, I'm not seeing where CD is Scum.

I'm more concerned with Oversoul, I think he's PR hunting.

plus 30, 38, 46,

doesn't explain any of his votes other than CoolDog, but questions why some one is voting Plotinus 24, 119, 275, 362, 398, 426, 486

VOTE: Oversoul

[Plotinus]

I made a case against CoolDog in 416.

My notes on oversoul say that he responded fairly calmly to my poking him but he may be buddying me a little (and he did sheep me onto cooldog).

Do you know if being calm under pressure is alignment indicative for him?

It’s true that he hasn’t explained his votes. I’ll look at his ISO in more detail, do my numbers thing, see what happens.

[Plotinus]

ok, i can see the pr hunting.

he explains his vote on skold in 426. and 467 (but then he unvotes him in that post because I said that skold lurks as scum, when skold has been lurking in this game which is why i said that.)

Spoiler: numbers thing

cooldog -14 -26 -?=119 -v275 =342 -363 -v467 v515 -528

diginova =363 =426 =478 =519

jeanne11 =14 -?=119

klingoncelt -v398 -?426 =467 =519

maruchan -14 -28 -30 +38 =45 =117 =274 =363 +?448

massive =45 -342 -344 -359 +360 -v362 -375 =394 =395 -407 -423 +?-?426 -428 +?443 -467 -468 -471 =479

mcmenno =14 -v24 -28 -407 +?467 =519

mew three -?=119 =519

nachomamma8 =90 =92 =97 +=101 =519

plotinus +14 =26 -?28 =30 -?=36 =40 =45 =?90 =95 +=101 +119 =176 =363 +?467

skold -v426 -448 -u467

wgeurts -24 -26 =36 -?=37 -38 =48 -v139 =142 -?274 =375 =380 =381 =485 =493 =494

key: without flips it’s harder to tell what this means; it’s just my way of trying to slide myself into someone else’s slot to see how they’re interacting with everyone else and try to find their motivations and see if their interactions make sense or not
+ positive interactions: buddying, townreading, working together with, agreeing with (about things that are more substantial than just setup spec/mafia theory), etc.
- negative interactions: pushing, attacking, scumreading, working against, disagreeing with (about things that are more substantial than just setup spec/mafia theory), etc.
= neutral interactions
? interactions that i don’t understand / i’m guessing about the + or the - but am not sure

Actually, the main thing that is jumping out at me right now about oversoul is how static his reads progression on basically everybody is:
cooldog has been scum since post 14 and is still scum.
only neutral interactions with diginova.
only neutral interactions with jeanne except to question why people were voting me (jeanne was at the time). jeanne didn’t respond to this.
mostly left klingon alone but again, all interactions negative.
consistently negative on massive (the ones i marked with +? aren’t really townready sorts of posts, those are good links to follow and look at more closely)
consistently negative on mcmenno except for calling him an easy target when attacking skold
mostly left mew three alone (except to question why people were voting me, which mew was at the time)
neutral towards nachomama except for 101.
Has been consistently townreading me since post 14 (except for a couple things early on that might have been pushes?). I’m historically pretty bad at distinguising being townread from being buddied, though.
consistently negative on skold.
Consistently negative on wgeurts since post 24 though that’s understandable because jester.

his read on maruchan seems to have evolved a bit, but that’s the only one.

[Nachomamma8]

Can anyone opposed to a D2 massive lynch raise their hand,

raise their hand,

massive is scum, dude. the question is, are you scum with him?

VOTE:

groot

nacho

I am Groot!

[Nachomamma8]

Groot groot

[Nachomamma8]

anywhere near enough townreads and that worries me.

everyone else is gibberish.

groot?

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: CooLDoG

[Plotinus]

anywhere near enough townreads and that worries me.

everyone else is gibberish.

groot?

If that’s a question about my own reads, I’m still having that problem to some extent, but:
I’ve liked

diginova’s

and

klingoncelt’s

recent posting, though i’m not sure I like how

diginova

is using their ability and their ISO is really short.
I was townleaning

oversoul

for a while but

klingon

is right about the pr hunting and i’m concerned about his lack of reads progression so

oversoul

is worrying me again,

massive

is confusing — “i’m the only member of my faction (but it’s town)” isn’t townish at all but what’s the scum motivation for saying that but anyway he’s lynchproof today so it doesn’t matter,

mcmenno

is still gibberish,
still unsure about

mewthree

but maybe more of a townish null,

maruchan

is more of a scumish null but i need to work on that read some more (i think it’s mostly about how he was being open about his ability and his role pm and the last time i was in a role madness game some of the people who were happy to crumb their roles to players of unknown alignment right at the start (or right after replacing in) tended to be scum, but then half the town roflclaimed too early as well, but it just felt different and it wasn’t half as early as maruchan doing it, but if i try to ignore that aspect i’m more happier with his other posts so idk),
i’d like to see more from

nacho

(though I think his post restriction is affecting his motivation to play this game),

skold

is a scum lean,

wgeurts

is a jester,

cooldog

is still scum.
it is interesting that the

mod

can be voted but i don’t know what that means either. i’ve been resisting the temptation to ask the

mod

if they can win with the town or not because it would just be more fluff and i don’t know if they’d give an answer i could interpret anyway.

So that’s like 2 and a half green names :/ but i think i could be convinced to bump up the scummish nulls a bit. There are still things that worry me about basically everyone, but i’m worried that i’m being too paranoid.

[Nachomamma8]

though i’m not sure I like how diginova

GROOT GROOT GROOT GROOT GROOT

VOTE: DIGINOVA

[Nachomamma8]

Proper punctuation and grammar will help your case!

Well then, I guess we're doomed.
At least

there are no tildes or diacritical marks in any posts by players in this game, ignoring quotes from the moderators.

y

[Nachomamma8]

klingoncelt’s recent posting,

groot groot groot!
I am Groot!
I am Groot!
I! Am! Groot!

[Nachomamma8]

massive is confusing — “i’m the only member of my faction (but it’s town)” isn’t townish at all but what’s the scum motivation for saying that but anyway he’s lynchproof today so it doesn’t matter,

???groot???

I am groot I am groot I am groot

Groot groot! I am Groot!

[Plotinus]

klingoncelt’s recent posting,

groot groot groot!
I am Groot!
I am Groot!
I! Am! Groot!

Nachomamma also likes klingoncelt’s recent posting

or

Nachomamma dislikes klingoncelt’s recent posting

?

[Nachomamma8]

Nachomamma also likes klingoncelt’s recent posting

I am groot I am groot!

[Nachomamma8]

Did no one choose town =_=

I am groot! I am groot! I am groot groot! Groot!

[Nachomamma8]

I was townleaning oversoul

I am groot! I am Groot!

[Nachomamma8]

oversoul is worrying me again,

grooooooooooooooooooot
I am groot I am groot