Mini 1685: BooneyToonz II - Looney Tunes

[Varsoon]

That's exactly the slip.
Also, I missed the full claim. Oooh, actually, Sala claimed 2-shot. I think.

[Pegasus30]

VOTE: Mainez

Okay so I'm a rolecop and Mainez isn't a Jailkeeper.

Was this a gambit?

[Varsoon]

Yes.

[Varsoon]

I wanted to see how both Mainez and others would react.

[evilpacman18]

That's exactly the slip.

What a joke!

I wanted to see how both Mainez and others would react.

This is bullshit, your "gambit" was clearly intended to influence the outcome of the lynch, if you meant to be neutral in any way, so as to figure out who the real JK was, you wouldn't have claimed in support of Sala's claim AND in denial of Mainez' with Salamence at L-1 and a vote for Mainez. There was more than just "wanting to see" going on there, you were trying to completely turn the situation around.

[Pegasus30]

On page 80 with the D3 lynch. The amount of spam this game is terrible.

Not seeing EPM scum. BBT's reaction to the counterclaim seemed townish. Think Massive is a pretty good bet for scum just based on being mostly disengaged from the game.

[Varsoon]

Yeah, sure, that's why I pushed the wagon back to Sala and even hammered it! It was all a genius scum move to make me look way shittier!

[Pegasus30]

The likely thing is that scum did kill and they decided to kill me. That's not arrogance, I die early as town the majority of the time. If I was scum, I would not kill. Let someone like Salamence do the dirty work.

Substantiate this with links to games.

[Pegasus30]

I'm non-consecutive night cop by the way.

VOTE: Varsoon

Inno BBT, guilty Varsoon. All aboard!

Is this a gambit as well or are you serious?

[Varsoon]

That, too, was revealed to be a gambit.

[Pegasus30]

On page 95 and the amount of spam is a bit too much. I'll catch up in a bit and post my reads but outside a couple of townreads, I don't have strong opinions elsewhere.

Massive has done the least to make me think he's town.

[Pegasus30]

All right. Caught up. Reads:

Town:
BBMolla
RadiantCowbells

No idea:
BBT - although I think his complete frustration and rage in the last tens of pages reads town. Interactions with Salamence are bad though
TSO - self-confidence that he'd be killed N1 reads town
Varsoon - I'm conflicted here. The gambit was terrible. I wouldn't argue against this lynch but I'm not confident it comes from scum
EPM - Mild townvibes from some posts but I could be wrong easily
Massive - Has given me no reason to think he's town

UNVOTE:

for now if my predecessor had a vote somewhere.

Can we lynch Massive?

I'm willing to go with Massive or BBT. Preferable Massive. But if everyone is set on BBT, I'll vote there to move the game forward because of Salamence's interactions.

[Pegasus30]

@ Mod

, can we have a votecount?

[Varsoon]

A lot of your posts have made me second guess myself.
I really want to stand firm though.
I'm dead set on BBT/EPM.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I knew you were CC'ing D1...

I knew it and you let Sala off the hook. What the fuck?

If you knew it, then why did you let him off the hook?

Because after I joined the wagon Mainez questioned why I had voted Sala and I was like...wtf? You just gave me reason to...

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wow, my interactions make sense as scum/scum with Sala?

This is absurd. I'm ready to be hammered.

Remember to lynch T S O and massive afterwards.

[RadiantCowbells]

I feel you on quitting this game, BBT.

The game's highs just don't feel like they used to and the lows have gotten even lower.

I think this is my last set of games as well.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Why are you feeling like that? You have no reason to, you're about to achieve the lynch you've wanted.

[massive]

BBT, I don't know what made you change your mind from Salamence being scum D1 to pursuing other targets. You declare intent to hammer, then you call his claim fake, and then suddenly decide you want to lynch in the neighborhood, call Varsoon's Salamence vote bad and in general take a completely different direction to what you were doing earlier and nothing at that point is clear to me.

THANK YOU. This is exactly what I said in 2299.

[massive]

BBT, I don't know what made you change your mind from Salamence being scum D1 to pursuing other targets. You declare intent to hammer, then you call his claim fake, and then suddenly decide you want to lynch in the neighborhood, call Varsoon's Salamence vote bad and in general take a completely different direction to what you were doing earlier and nothing at that point is clear to me.

I don't either.

My play this game has been really erratic and it's purely down to playing too many games - when this started I had 10 games running at the same time and I just got overwhelmed.

That's an interesting response. When I said it, you yawned and called me scum. I guess you really can't do that with the IC.

[massive]

Massive has done the least to make me think he's town.

If you're going to read the whole game, read the whole game, don't punk out at page 33.

[T S O]

That's unrealistic and also a basic waste of time.

[T S O]

Salamence, if you find yourself unable to keep your play game-related, you can replace. You don't seem particularly invested anyway.

Could potentially see a scum player asking his dead-weight partner to replace out so he can get a better one.

This was in response to Salamence being a constant prick to pisskop. At that stage I don't remember Sala being particularly in danger.

This chain of events doesn't make any sense from Salamence-town, unless I have grossly overestimated his ability as a mafia player.

VOTE: Salamence20

Why not?

This was later explained so my response will be to quote that.

The likely thing is that scum did kill and they decided to kill me. That's not arrogance, I die early as town the majority of the time. If I was scum, I would not kill. Let someone like Salamence do the dirty work.

Substantiate this with links to games.

Sure.

[T S O]

EPM, remind me of your case on me?

I mean, right now it seems to boil down to "JK'd n1, no kill n1, you must be scum"... which is pretty terrible, considering I've explained why scum had multiple reasons to shoot me (relatively competent, fresh pair of eyes as a replacement). And after that, you're mumbling something about "must lynch in hood!" when all-town 'hoods is exactly the zany sort of set-up Boonskiies would pull, and that's really it.

You also seem remarkably checked-out for someone who's on the brink of losing to Varsoon and I, because BBT's getting lynched today and that leaves at least three people alive who will happily lynch you. It's almost like you feel the game is over or something, like you know you're not going to win and you don't have any interest in investing yourself further because of that.

[T S O]

I agree EPM looked town early, Pegasus, I was townreading him too, so I can't blame you. It's his later play which is the problem.

Delicious Mafia - no TSO kill.
Masquerade - no TSO kill until final member of scum.
Mind - no TSO kill until abandonment of game by mod.

Those are the most recent I could find, I didn't bother searching further.