Mini 1697 - a Re-balanced Game of Mafia - GAME OVER


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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:23 pm

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In post 142, Netherspite wrote:I never said
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Also, considering me being scumpartnered with
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As pointed out, Alch voted first. So it obv isn't omgus. VOTE: netherspite

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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:31 pm

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@Quaroath what is your read on Radiant?
You think that Nether and him would make it so obvious they were scum buddies?
I mean showing buddy relations this early seems unlikely but who knows.

Keeping vote on RC though, We can lynch Nether tomorrow if RC flips mafia.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:39 pm

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@Quaroath what is your read on Radiant?
You think that Nether and him would make it so obvious they were scum buddies?
I mean showing buddy relations this early seems unlikely but who knows.

Keeping vote on RC though, We can lynch Nether tomorrow if RC flips mafia.


So you're questioning whether or not we'd be so obvious together but then agreeing to lynch Nether based off of my scumflip.

Right.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:40 pm

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I just can't decide whether Quaroath or Firebringer is more likely to be scum.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:43 pm

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What are you reasons? So far you have given bad logic.

Yes I questioned if you would make that blunder, but so far you guys haven't shown any amazing yet. Using bad logic to try to pressure players doesn't give me the best opinion at your ability to not make it obvious you are buddied, I was more asking if he thought the same or not.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:49 pm

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VOTE: Quaroath

Firebringer's inconsistencies can be explained, maybe, by his noobiness which is why I originally wanted to switch.

As pointed out, Alch voted first. So it obv isn't omgus. VOTE: netherspite

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Invoking lynch all liars here makes no sense at all. And if Quaroath thinks I'm scum, and there's associative tells between me and Netherspite, why isn't he voting me.

I don't understand why his vote goes onto Quaroath wagon at all. It strikes me as him trying to pressure someone as my scumbuddy and continue pressure on me without being responsible for the mislynch.

And just calling it LAL sort of deflects being responsible for the lynch.


Also, look at his case on me.

Pretty sure we got a good lead in after your unneeded flip out.


Unneeded flip out doesn't make me scum nor is it scummy and nor does he describe it as such.

Also, trying to hard to direct town, perfectly okay with speedlynching town,


Neither of which makes me scum, nor even more likely to be scum and nor does he explicitly describe as scummy.

AtE's earn votes


Which is basically Quaroath saying that he's obligated to vote me, ie taking no responsibility for it.

Sort of like with the Netherspite vote.


Also radiant, please don't piss me off by getting uppity because i finally answered that.


So basically he gets mad because I insinuate that he might be scum with ulterior motives.

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Yes I questioned if you would make that blunder, but so far you guys haven't shown any amazing yet. Using bad logic to try to pressure players doesn't give me the best opinion at your ability to not make it obvious you are buddied, I was more asking if he thought the same or not.


Just because you don't understand my logic doesn't make it bad.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:50 pm

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Not a noob, get your facts straight man.
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:54 pm

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If you're not a noob then quit acting like one.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:54 pm

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Also your inability to explain your logic does make it bad.
I am not the only one who has pointed out the holes in your arguments so far.

PEDIT: Says the person voting without giving any legitimate reasons. Just bs reasons.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:59 pm

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If you're not a noob then quit acting like one.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:00 pm

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See, I can be a broken record too.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:00 pm

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Also I can't believe you say I am being inconsistent when you claim Alchemist is bad town with a vote on him, then scum within a few posts.

Pedit: You already said that, you are broken record?
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:01 pm

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It means I don't fucking know if he's bad town or scum and I'm happy to lynch either category.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:02 pm

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Kind of like somebody else who I've voted this game.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:03 pm

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I'm wondering if you're not ramping up your pressure as a chainsaw to defend Quaroath.

There was a little bit that looked like coaching but I didn't immediately go down that avenue.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:03 pm

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So, in summary of events:

1) Radiant votes me after I vote him in a OMGUS moment.
2) Then Radiant tries to continue saying I am scum of some sort when pressured by Alchemist doesn't give any good reasons.
3) Alchemist votes him, then Radiant OMGUS him.
4) Then Quaroth points out the flaws in Netherspites point about who OMGUS who and votes Nether and Radiant responds by voting him without giving any substantive reasoning beyond the "he doesn't want to be responsible for my mislynch" when Quaroth hasn't even said you were scum once!
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:04 pm

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Besides the fact that he's voted two different people based on policy reasons without calling them scum?
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:06 pm

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And that's also two different lynches he didn't take responsible for calling scummy?

C'mon. You can't claim to not be a noob and also claim to not see the false dichotomy you're presenting here.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:07 pm

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In post 162, RadiantCowbells wrote:It means I don't fucking know if he's bad town or scum and I'm happy to lynch either category.

Lynching town even if bad is still bad. This is anti town statement.

In post 163, RadiantCowbells wrote:Kind of like somebody else who I've voted this game.

So are you saying I am town but bad? Make up your mind.
In post 164, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm wondering if you're not ramping up your pressure as a chainsaw to defend Quaroath.

There was a little bit that looked like coaching but I didn't immediately go down that avenue.

Yeah, because I would coach my teammate *sarcasm*. I am not defending Quaroath especially since I am questioning him about what he thinks since he hasn't said that much.

Pedit: Point out the false dichotomy. What two lynches? You also have barely given reasons for your votes which all just seem rather defensive reaction lynches than you thinking anyone is scum
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:12 pm

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Lynching town even if bad is still bad. This is anti town statement.


Not true.

So are you saying I am town but bad? Make up your mind.


I'm saying that it's hard to distinguish between bad town and scum.

Actually, it's funny that we're in this avenue because I'm one of the few mafiascum players who actually bothers to fucking sort players like you instead of just lynching them.

ah, because I would coach my teammate *sarcasm*. I am not defending Quaroath especially since I am questioning him about what he thinks since he hasn't said that much.


Then why are you chainsawing him so hard.

Pedit: Point out the false dichotomy. What two lynches?


Moi et Netherspite. He voted both without calling either of them scummy.

You also have barely given reasons for your votes which all just seem rather defensive reaction lynches than you thinking anyone is scum


Yeah, as if I didn't just wallpost about Quaroath.

I note that you have never before claimed a read on Quaroath and are now claiming a semi-scumread without any substance to it, which is very common scum play.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:21 pm

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You try to sort us so you can lynch us both.
Don't lie. You said in a previous post that you thought Alchemist was bad town so you would lynch him.

I am asking questions of Quaroath I do find his getting on both you and Nether to be suspicious especially since he had a vote on you earlier. What changed?
I want him to give reasons for both votes which he has given only little in that department. Kind of like you.

Also more than half of your wallpost was directed at me not at the reason for your vote. Which most of it seems because you don't want to put pressure on someone else besides yourself. The reasons feel forced.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:34 pm

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Directed at you specifically? no.

Directed at the town in general? yeah.

Why the hell would I tell my scumread why I think they're scum?
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:59 pm

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In post 150, Quaroath wrote:As pointed out, Alch voted first. So it obv isn't omgus. VOTE: netherspite


Oh well he voted first, but they had extended argument before that happened so I still would consider his vote more emotion-based than logic-based.

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Anyway, latest argument between
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I'll move my vote to
eventi
as he looks like an opportunistic scum.

VOTE: eventi
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:16 pm

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In post 171, RadiantCowbells wrote:Directed at you specifically? no.

Directed at the town in general? yeah.

Why the hell would I tell my scumread why I think they're scum?


Because it means you don't have to make a case, but can just smear people. It's akin to using meta to call someone town/scum without any other reason.

It's like trying to PL someone.

Also, if you won't share your reasons, it generally means you don't have any - and are just shouting from rooftops hoping you don't get questioned.

Also, it's not a good way to get your scumreads lynched.
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