Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

Metal Sonic · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:52 am

Nacho is difficult to catch. The good thing is he has a ton of games for data. You'll need a really large sample size to get accurate information. If you can tell the difference of his town and scum meta through that, I'll be impressed.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:52 am

We actually don't have time for this. There's like an hour left.

Tammy · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:54 am

These are my town to varying degrees reads. I've got to be going wrong somewhere.

Farside - Everything just reads town and the response to the opposite empowered thing being a gambit felt real.

Elusive - I liked her conviction on my case and the way she went about it. The continued conviction for stuff that is completely wrong and part of my game, while claiming to understand my meta, is wearing a bit thin. We're also not seeing the game in the same way at all, but I don't think that's alignment indicative.

start - Had some concerns there that he and nacho could be partnered or that he was snowing nacho, but I liked his post about not being town with nacho in a long time.

lane - Thought this all along.

ricastle - Can't really explain why.

Constantine - Dat appeal, plus I didn't have much of a problem with marquis.

Massive - Due to KayP's replace out. I suppose this could be a town read I'm trying to town read that isn't town but I don't think so.

elusive · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:55 am

Why do scum talk so much about their personal lives? Does it help assuage the guilt of being scum? Does it make them feel they are more of a person and not a murdering murderer?

#livetweetingreadofScumNacho

elusive · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:55 am

In post 976, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:We actually don't have time for this. There's like an hour left.

So who's nacho's scum buddy here, because if nacho is as hard to read as Tammy, MS are saying then I find it odd that you think you can read him so easily esp. considering you have less posts\games then some noobs on here.

elusive · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:56 am

Lurking is actually a major scum tell for Nacho.

True or false?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:58 am

Probs SFTH or Massive, and by some chance it could also be Tammy. You know, you seem to be trying harder to keep Nacho in the game than he was, so it could even be you.

Part of the reason we need to get a lynch before the deadline is so we can find this stuff out. The information is vital. It is D1, and Nacho is the hottest player, so his flip will offer a lot on the current state of allignments.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:59 am

We need this lynch m8, so don't fuck this up.

Tammy · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:59 am

In post 980, elusive wrote:
Lurking is actually a major scum tell for Nacho.

True or false?

True and False.

Nacho can have a slow start in games regardless of alignment. It's one of the reasons why my wait until day three to be absolutely sure began, and as I've gotten better at reading him I still haven't been able to get away from my give it a day mentality. In that game that you're reading, he did have stuff come up that kept him away from games, and he was gone pretty much site wide, so it wasn't the cause.

There is a method to his lurking as scum, but it's kinda hard to differentiate between when he's busy as town and you have to be able to look at the subtleties of the things he does, the way he reads people, and the whys.

Tammy · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:02 pm

I wish he would have shown some reaction to my suspicions. I thought if he was town there'd be a certain sense of smugness, like when I misread him in Vesperia or kinda what are you doing type thing, or even suspicion because I showed suspicion on him after he thought it was odd that I hadn't shown suspicion on him. But he also hasn't done the things he's done as scum when I've suspected him.

So, IDK :/

Tammy · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:04 pm

His opening did look townish, not like scum playing dumb about the setup.

elusive · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:06 pm

So if he flips town then I'll vig Constantine, it'll be like a real saint story...full of blood and tragic atmosphere.

I am partial to people who defend me but don't seem to try to get anything from me in exchange so therefore I am a waffle cone ice cream.

Constantine, I am not partial to people trying to push me off what could be a cliff.

I'd prefer to lynch Aronis or lane.

elusive · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:06 pm

Actually, Ricastle has not done anything that I expect from him in a town game so Ric is up there for me as scummy as fuck too.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:08 pm

I already swore myself to eternal damnation if I were scum. It was my ultimate trump card

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:09 pm

See, I didn't even know you had the pwr to vig. If I were scum I would of known that. I would of also known that if I had actually read the thread.

Tammy · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:11 pm

she's not a vig.

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:11 pm

BTW, you and Tammy really need to make up your mind. Do you want to lynch Nacho and give us some critical information, or do you want to have a no lynch so we can argue about the same bullshit tommorow?

St Constantine the Hermit · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:15 pm

This game is a joke. We have the least decisive town ever. I bet scum is going to NK me or ricastle, and then it will be 100% impossible to form a lynch party on the obv. scum in Nacho's block.

elusive · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:17 pm

Tammy, what does this even mean:

lane - Thought this all along.

Tammy · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:18 pm

Tammy · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:18 pm

In post 993, elusive wrote:Tammy, what does this even mean:

lane - Thought this all along.

Townish read.

Metal Sonic · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:19 pm

In post 992, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:This game is a joke. We have the least decisive town ever. I bet scum is going to NK me or ricastle, and then it will be 100% impossible to form a lynch party on the obv. scum in Nacho's block.

... What?

Tammy · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:20 pm

Metal sonic - how good do you feel about your mainez town read over nacho right now?

Metal Sonic · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:20 pm

In post 983, Tammy wrote:
In post 980, elusive wrote:
Lurking is actually a major scum tell for Nacho.

True or false?

True and False.

Nacho can have a slow start in games regardless of alignment. It's one of the reasons why my wait until day three to be absolutely sure began, and as I've gotten better at reading him I still haven't been able to get away from my give it a day mentality. In that game that you're reading, he did have stuff come up that kept him away from games, and he was gone pretty much site wide, so it wasn't the cause.

There is a method to his lurking as scum, but it's kinda hard to differentiate between when he's busy as town and you have to be able to look at the subtleties of the things he does, the way he reads people, and the whys.

Confirming this information

Tammy · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:29 pm

Like in a sense I want to vote mainez over nacho because I don't want to lose a town nacho because he had a slow start when I know that he can be good for town. And I'd feel differently if I didn't feel conflicted on his alignment. There are things I worry about but then his opening few pages don't feel agenda filled and don't feel like some of his more recent games as scum.

But IDK.