Newbie 1625: American Spring - Day 5 (DL - 08/31)

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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:15 am

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In post 473, HenryCabotLodge wrote:if anything, we can also draw conclusions from the wagon based on how the lynchee flips.


I will flip town, so why don't you start drawing conclusions now and find the scum before I am lynched? A couple of people are pushing really strong on me and the rest of the town is like "yeah-kinda-maybe". That shouldn't make me a good candidate.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:17 am

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In post 474, stoz wrote:I am doubtful that Bulba / NS scum would act in such unison, but I am sure that one of them has to be scum.


Whichever one of you is actually really town, please take a long had look at the other. Just read the other ones posts and think about it and see where it leads you.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:28 am

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In post 474, stoz wrote:
And what information do people hope to gain when I flip? Because that justification was used a lot in my last game and it resulted in lynching town every time.

I am doubtful that Bulba / NS scum would act in such unison, but I am sure that one of them has to be scum.


I considered that when I declared my intent to hammer you. If you flip town, I feel it implicates notscience quite a bit. You'll notice I still have my vote on him. I was uneasy about your play in the early to middle part of the game (which I expressed) and now you've suddenly become quite active now that you're on the block. Of course anyobdy, scum or town, is going to try to defend himself before lynching but the truth is your play has generally been very reactive and diffident so such a change in play does not make you look better, despite the fact it's all you can do. In other words, you dug yourself in a whole and on day 1, when there honestly isn't a whole lot in terms of substance to go by, it's pretty damning. Should you flip scum great! If not, my top scum suspect looks very bad. This lynch makes sense for me.

In post 475, stoz wrote:
In post 473, HenryCabotLodge wrote:if anything, we can also draw conclusions from the wagon based on how the lynchee flips.


I will flip town, so why don't you start drawing conclusions now and find the scum before I am lynched? A couple of people are pushing really strong on me and the rest of the town is like "yeah-kinda-maybe". That shouldn't make me a good candidate.


I believe notscience is scum but it's obvious my case fell on deaf ears. As I said before, your play has not inspired any confidence from me and your lynch is acceptable to me. It also has the added benefit of shedding some light on notscience's vote pattern/ game philosophy. Moreover, I do think there is at least a decent chance of your being scum.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:30 am

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Not science and thespio are still on top of my list, Stoz is probably one of the only players im like 99% sure of being town.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:32 am

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In post 478, JoramvanVugt wrote:Not science and thespio are still on top of my list, Stoz is probably one of the only players im like 99% sure of being town.


Why do you say that? Why is your vote on Stoz?
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:45 am

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read the page before this one, and ive been saying how i think Stoz is town for the last day.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:03 pm

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Well there are 3 of us, lets go then: VOTE: notscience
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:05 pm

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Ill join in that VOTE: NotScience
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:11 pm

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No we don't need another claim today. Two is already one too many.

VOTE: Stoz
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:15 pm

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In post 483, Micc wrote:No we don't need another claim today. Two is already one too many.


Then why did you ask me to claim?
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:17 pm

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Vote Count 1.16
MEAN TWEETS


Flavor temporarily suspended so vote counts are timely!



stoz
(4): notscience, Akuseru, Bulbazoor, Micc
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(3): HenryCabotLodge, stoz, JoramvanVugt
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(2): StubbsKVM, Thespio

Not Voting
(0):
None.


With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: July 19, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2015-07-18 21:00:00)

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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:34 pm

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We could vote for stoz and get him lynched or try to get 2 more on notscience
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:36 pm

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Because you had four votes on you already and HCL wanted you lynched before Joran, not to mention i was willing to hammer.

Now half the wagon on you has cold feet or something. I dont know what to do, but i do know that flash wagoning another player with just hours on the clock is a bad idea.

Ive already accepted that im not getting the lynch i want so i dont really care anymore. At least its an analyzable wagon - thats really the only thing these deadline crunch lynches are good for anyway.

Predit: no. No flash wagons. Stoz or Joram. Ill do either preference on Joram.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 12:38 pm

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They got smart and realized im not scum...
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:32 pm

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Micc, are you there?

stubbs or thesp need to hammer.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 2:36 pm

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Hell I need someone in here.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:00 pm

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Im getting drinks with some friends so im in and out. Not sure what i can do at this point tho
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:04 pm

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I'll selfvote if you want to hammer.

We need a lynch.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:08 pm

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Also, newbies-

In post 0, Toomai wrote:Town-scum-NL rate: 180-51-7 (random lynching would give 185-53-0; the difference is [-2.15%]-[-0.79%]-[+2.94%])
If town is lynched D1, they go 68-112 (37.8%)
If scum is lynched D1, they go 7-44 (13.7%)
If there is no lynch D1, town goes 1-6 (14.3%)


day one lynches are important. without them we are starved for info. In the future, you need to make sure you get a day 1 lynch.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:12 pm

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Without a lynch day 1, night 1 is 7-2. Scum kill one of us.

6-2. We lynch tomorrow, it puts us at

5-2 if we lynch town, 6-1 if we lynch scum.

Scum kill one, 4-2 and 5-1.

Now in the first case, we will likely no lynch because mylo.

So therefore, town only decided one of the flips versus scum deciding 3.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:17 pm

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OK deadline is just about upon us. VOTE: Stoz

See you tomorrow, it's gonna be interesting.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:18 pm

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Thank you, HCL.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:20 pm

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In post 496, notscience wrote:Thank you, HCL.


I just hope my reservations have been noted- this is not an ideal lynch for me. It does seem necessary, though.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:24 pm

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If he is town, my reads are messed up. Its that he felt not genuine and forcing his reads.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:46 pm

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I think I'm dead now, so I'll just say I hope you get the information that town needs. I lost my first game so town please don't screw this up and make me go 0-2.

Also see Bulba back-pedalling already.

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