Mini 1699 - #swag wars: THE empire strikes back (swaggedout)

[Empire]

DAY 1, VOTECOUNT 9

Aneninen (3)

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Vinkah, Layla, Wickedestjr

Gnomeo (2)

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Nachomamma8, notscience

RedCoyote (2)

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pieguyn, Cheetory6

pieguyn (1)

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implosion

notscience (1)

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RedCoyote

Vinkah (1)

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Aneninen

Tammy (1)

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Gnomeo

Nachomamma8 (1)

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Tammy

Not Voting (1)

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fferyllt

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch! Deadline is on July 30th at 12:00 PM EST or in (expired on 2015-07-30 12:00:00).

[Tammy]

I don't think that cheetorys game was slow in signs and voids so I'm not sure what he's referncing. I did town read him early, and while it was for a specific reason, I think the inquisitiveness and honest decision on reads is something that translates.

PArt of what bugs me about him is gut and something I can't quite put my finger on but hope to in coming days.

It feels weird that he's claiming that worrying about him is abusing his reputation before he can get invested. What is this reputation that were supposed to be abusing? I'm also feeling a bit squicky about the whole, how dare people make Poe lists before page ten, and tammy doesn't usually do that. Because qua? It's like he and anen decided to take a page from the Same playbook and go how dare you scum read me, oh Im lynched, whatever shall I do.

I don't know. Feels weird. He's also up in arms that people suspect him without interacting with them but he's doing th same thing. I mean sure hypocrisy is not a scum tell but it feels off. His Nacho read also feels wrong in the way he's discussed it.

On the other hand, his ill mak ffery or tammy pay feels somewhat townish, so yeah not sure.

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I like alts as much as the next person but I also think that it does nothing for the game/is a distraction when the alt is like haha I'm an alt, here's the meta I know - which is in many cases wrong - but haha you don't get to answer for it because I can say what I think about your meta but be secretive about it and you can't actually answer for it. Mala kittens did that to me in mafia in the air and it drove me bonkers.

[fferyllt]

the ff10 game with the fivetownneighborhoodwherekatsukibombedinneighborhoodthread ff10 game?

or another ff10 game?

that game.

[notscience]

Yes

I definitely remember making comments about it in a ton of games until I am just like

"this is ffery ok"

I'd say I will go back and get you games but frankly I can't even remember most of my games anymore

[Vinkah]

don't worry tammy, at this rate i'll probably out myself by the end of this Day.

i just love this playerlist too much.

[fferyllt]

I like alts as much as the next person but I also think that it does nothing for the game/is a distraction when the alt is like haha I'm an alt, here's the meta I know - which is in many cases wrong - but haha you don't get to answer for it because I can say what I think about your meta but be secretive about it and you can't actually answer for it. Mala kittens did that to me in mafia in the air and it drove me bonkers.

Mastin did that to me in Death's Diner. It was over a year before I learned who that alt belonged to.

I vig killed her because I thought it was scummy as fuck that someone would assert such a terribly off meta read from behind an alt.

[fferyllt]

Yes

I definitely remember making comments about it in a ton of games until I am just like

"this is ffery ok"

I'd say I will go back and get you games but frankly I can't even remember most of my games anymore

it probably ties to all those games where you were paranoid as hell about me. I thought it was because of a couple games where I actually was scum.

[fferyllt]

Yes

I definitely remember making comments about it in a ton of games until I am just like

"this is ffery ok"

I'd say I will go back and get you games but frankly I can't even remember most of my games anymore

Who was "him" in that post, though. I still don't get who you asked?

[notscience]

Nah I'm naturally paranoid of you

I still remember you(or was it nacho, idr I know it was definitely sangres) talking about my paranoia regarding you being like bert's paranoia about nacho, that it just didnt ring true as scum (funny considering I love playing with both of you despite that paranoia)

There's a lot more to me than meets the eye!

pedit-

I think it was cabd or nacho.

Those are the two I normally

sheeped

used as resources

[fferyllt]

either of them makes sense, though I sometimes wonder if cabd's getting worse at reading me.

[Nachomamma8]

my entrance to the game was superbly subpar. i know nacho gets his feels, but his feels for my entrance as strong as it was when the entrance was pretty shitty, is just meh?

What was the problem with what I outlined?
Maybe I would feel differently about your entrance if I knew who you were, but :hitoshrug:.
I also don't know why you think I'd white knight an unknown slot early game if they weren't making town-looking posts, or why you singled out me specifically for calling the slot town.

since you're here though, notscience, can you remember earlyindecisivetownfferyllt? i can't?

Do you mean early and decisive?
If you can't remember early indecisive, then :/ what?

that is what I mean

So you're saying that town-pie ALWAYS reads you correctly?

Why the hell wasn't she in the FF10 game?

I think FF10 was doomed from the start, thanks to the neighborhood.

[fferyllt]

I think FF10 was doomed from the start, thanks to the neighborhood.

by day 2, I thought there was a good chance it was an all town neighborhood, but I wasn't there to keep it from imploding thanks to SOMEBODY night killing me.

[Tammy]

Vinkah - since you're an alt and know this player list can you talk about why you thought the push on red coyote was low hanging fruit?

[Vinkah]

ushhh

[notscience]

I really hope you are who I think you are.

[Vinkah]

i think i did?
RC is a strong player. yes? his entrance into this game is abnormal, is that that the right word, for him? i don't see what scum or town motivation RC gets out of his entrance. all being said, whether the push was town manufactured to generate content, scum manufactured to do shtuff it was manufactured on crap. again, i might have dipped too much into some pinot grigio, but yeah?

[Tammy]

i think i did?
RC is a strong player. yes? his entrance into this game is abnormal, is that that the right word, for him? i don't see what scum or town motivation RC gets out of his entrance. all being said, whether the push was town manufactured to generate content, scum manufactured to do shtuff it was manufactured on crap. again, i might have dipped too much into some pinot grigio, but yeah?

Your read on that is where I started concern about you. Red coyote obviously hadn't been the player who didn't know anyone here, so the argument that he was the player that didn't fit and that's why he was getting wagoned felt wrong before, but if you're familiar with the majority of us, it feels even more wrong now.

[fferyllt]

what post are you talking about tammy?

[Vinkah]

perhapsfireball

"so the argument that he was the player that didn't fit and that's why he was getting wagoned felt wrong before"

it wasn't so much that RC didn't know anybody and didn't fit, but moreso that in such a cast of strong players/personalities/characters/whathaveyou the most untown behavior even though it pretty null square into circle something to talk about wagon, so i called it crap?

sense? probably not,

[Tammy]

For much the same reasons I'm inclined to vote gnomeo right now.

Tammy, when you get a chance, your thoughts on Nacho?

I think my thoughts on Nacho will have to wait until tomorrow.

I liked his response to me and that he defended the gnomes point, but he could do that as either alignment. I do think of anyone here, he'd know why that first post of mine would be unlikely to come from scum me, even if he wouldn't be able to explain completely why. Not that I'm above trying to manipulate Nacho as scum, but it's very unlikely to come from me in that way.

I'm interested in his gnomes push, he's doing it in a way I associate with town him as are some of his other reads and way he's reading people.

I mean gun to my head, I'd have him as slightly townish above null, but I feel like that's too early of a call to make right now.

I did like his too many town reads thing though.

This probably isn't helpful at the moment though.

[Tammy]

it doesn't preclude one from being scum, but in a cast of apparently strong players, many who seem to know each other, it just seems that RedCoyote is being pushed for being the square who doesn't fit into a circle hole.

cursory glance, RedCoyote seems to be a pretty good player, again in a cast of players such as this i have a hard time coming to terms that scumRedCoyote would open so fugly. bit of bordeaux, maybe.

it's not RedCoyote being low hanging fruit, but the push on him being low hanging fruit (something easy for Scum to address)

scum in {pieguyn, notscience, Cheetory6} and Aneninen

pieguyn and notscience seem to be Town and of the remaining two

vote: Aneninen

These are the posts I was concerned about.

[fferyllt]

I liked those posts. :/

They sang a song of forest fires to me.

[fferyllt]

Re nacho, his reads and those few but important points where his reads disgreed with mine felt a lot like what I expect from town nacho, but not in ways I haven't seen him emulate as scum.

There's somethng about my impression of his posts that I feel like you've picked up from scum-nacho. I'm a little disconcerted, and need to figure out if I'm wrong about that attribute even being a thing in this game.

[Tammy]

I think I'm stuck on not seeing red coyote as low-hanging fruit or being seen that way in this player list.

I don't understand your second paragraph. Are you referring to reading me or reading Nacho?

[fferyllt]

kinda both.

If I wind up with a scum read of nacho based on stuff I've seen you scumread him for, and you townread him, then either I'm wrong or you're wrong. Either way, My sense of the lay of the game will be seriously warped by sorting through possibilities like you're just missing it and nacho's scum, I'm totally off base and nacho's town, You're scum and townreading nacho because you know he's town, or omg shoot me now you're both scum.