Nightingale's Tale - [Game Over]

[Nachomamma8]

While looking for a way to clear a partner is something I would do (see Viscon: Crossroads), finding a way to clear myself isn't.

what

[Nachomamma8]

I think it is safe to say that Brian is vanilla.
so, the only possible people who can be responsible for the extra kill is muffin or me.
rationale: nacho was confirmed double voter by farside, brian is vanilla confirmed by kats, oversoul was RB'd.
so now we have to figure out how last night's kill happened.

I don't think Brian is confirmed vanilla by Katsuki.

[Brian Skies]

While looking for a way to clear a partner is something I would do (see Viscon: Crossroads), finding a way to clear myself isn't.

what

What about it don't you understand?

[Nachomamma8]

Anything? You're willing to gambit to false confirm your partners but not yourself? How the hell does that make sense?

[Brian Skies]

Anything? You're willing to gambit to false confirm your partners but not yourself? How the hell does that make sense?

To put it in simplest terms, my scum game is just a weak and lazy imitation of my town game. I'd never go out of my way to clear myself as town because I don't think there's a need to, so there's no reason for me to do it as scum. I also don't consider myself an easy early lynch as either alignment unless I'm just playing really poorly. I also don't think clearing myself early on as scum is a beneficial thing to do as it would make people question why I'm still alive if I make it to the end game.

In all of my scum games, my partners have been problematic and I've had to restrain myself from powerbussing them. I prefer to win as quickly as possible since people like to just lynch me in mylo or lylo regardless of my alignment, so keeping at least one other partner alive with me is ideal for me.

There's more to it, but I don't feel like explaining everything about my play.

[SXTLHGaiden]

I think it is safe to say that Brian is vanilla.
so, the only possible people who can be responsible for the extra kill is muffin or me.
rationale: nacho was confirmed double voter by farside, brian is vanilla confirmed by kats, oversoul was RB'd.
so now we have to figure out how last night's kill happened.

I don't think Brian is confirmed vanilla by Katsuki.

you don't think katsuki would have checked?

[zMuffinMan]

it kind of depends on how useful cupcake thought his role might be in that regard - i.e. they said the neighbourhood lasted a single night, he might have assumed checking brian wouldn't have done anything. likewise, if he got a negative result on brian, he might have assumed it was because the neighbourhood lasted a single night

i mean, it would have been smart to do so anyway. it also would have been smart to hint at any results he got. but he clearly didn't do the smart thing *shrug*

[SXTLHGaiden]

Well, in that case, i think that brian is probably the best option for a lynch.

[SXTLHGaiden]

i mean, if we are dealing with a 3 person scum team, then he is the only person who could have done both the double kill and the kill last night.

[Brian Skies]

Well, in that case, i think that brian is probably the best option for a lynch.

i mean, if we are dealing with a 3 person scum team, then he is the only person who could have done both the double kill and the kill last night.

From

your

perspective, I'm probably the best option for a lynch. But when you told me to unvote you because you thought it would lead to something, I was expecting more than just "oh, I think this points towards Brian town," "oh, you disagree with me? I guess he's the best lynch" because nothing you've said makes me likelier to be scum than before and actually gives the others an extra small sliver of a reason to believe I could be town here. You're also someone who could have been capable of making both the double kill and the kill last night and there isn't anything to point towards a town you other than Sakura townreading you on Day 1, which in all honesty, could just be her misreading you. So while you've managed to stall and continue the paranoia on whether I could be town, nothing you've said actually makes you a worse lynch than me.

If no one has anything else to say regarding who we should lynch today, then I'm ready to move on.

VOTE: Gaiden

[Nachomamma8]

I also don't consider myself an easy early lynch as either alignment unless I'm just playing really poorly. I also don't think clearing myself early on as scum is a beneficial thing to do as it would make people question why I'm still alive if I make it to the end game.

I prefer to win as quickly as possible since people like to just lynch me in mylo or lylo regardless of my alignment, so keeping at least one other partner alive with me is ideal for me.

So you don't clear yourself because it makes you more suspicious late game but you tend to get lynched late game anyways so...?

Why couldn't you have been setting up notscience for a fake clear as opposed to notscience setting you up for the fake clear? He was fighting back his wagon pretty effectively, and he probably wouldn't have gotten lynched for a while without the farside investigation.

[Nachomamma8]

I was expecting more than just "oh, I think this points towards Brian town," "oh, you disagree with me? I guess he's the best lynch"

why does Gaiden-scum even explore the Brian-town option?

[Brian Skies]

So you don't clear yourself because it makes you more suspicious late game but you tend to get lynched late game anyways so...?

So why do something that will make it more difficult for me to win later on if I think I can make it to the end game anyway?

Why couldn't you have been setting up notscience for a fake clear as opposed to notscience setting you up for the fake clear? He was fighting back his wagon pretty effectively, and he probably wouldn't have gotten lynched for a while without the farside investigation.

This is more believable for Brian-scum, but that means we coordinated either pregame or telepathically because Red Gyarados transcends the boundaries of life itself (or rather there's no daytalk this game).

I was expecting more than just "oh, I think this points towards Brian town," "oh, you disagree with me? I guess he's the best lynch"

why does Gaiden-scum even explore the Brian-town option?

I'll answer your question with a better question: When faced with imminent death, why does Gaiden-town only explore Brian's alignment when the evidence he's presenting us suggests that Brian's town? Less condescendingly:

Either to look more townish, try to buddy me, or hope someone else can take that information and do something stupid enough that he doesn't get lynched today.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 8.2

SXTLHGaiden [1] - Brian Skies

Not Voting [4]

- Nachomamma8, zMuffinMan, Oversoul, SXTLHGaiden

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

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Deadline is July 19, 2015, at Noon PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2015-07-19 13:00:00)

[zMuffinMan]

didn't realise deadline was so close

Vote: gaiden

hopefully game is over by the time i wake up

[SXTLHGaiden]

i'm gonna vote the safest vote from my perspective
VOTE: zmuffin

Well then, Here's to not losing now!

[SXTLHGaiden]

All i know is that if 4 person team, it's probably muffin
if 3 person, it's probably brian.

i really hope kats cleared someone... but what can you do?

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 8.3

SXTLHGaiden [2] - Brian Skies, zMuffinMan
zMuffinMan [1] - SXTLHGaiden

Not Voting [2]

- Nachomamma8, Oversoul

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

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Deadline is July 19, 2015, at Noon PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2015-07-19 13:00:00)

[FakeGod]

Night Eight

[FakeGod]

Nachomamma8, who was

Duck

,

Of Wealth

, and

Town

D3 Doublevoter

, has been

killed

in

Night 8

.

[FakeGod]

Day Nine

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 9.0

Not Voting [4]

- zMuffinMan, Brian Skies, Oversoul, SXTLHGaiden

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch

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Deadline is July 29, 2015, at Noon PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2015-07-29 13:00:00)

[SXTLHGaiden]

ok then, in theory, brian is scum.

[SXTLHGaiden]

VOTE: brian

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Gaiden