FF7 Mafia (Game Over)

[Focus Beam]

Scorp, scum can rage just as much as town. If you're vetoing that, I'll have to live with it, but I think that Varsoon is scum. He gets caught contradicting himself and his response is to rage and discredit rather than explaining. That's scum rage.

~Titus

[borkjerfkin]

pagetop1!!!!W!!@!1

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[ProHawk]

Titus, where is the contradiction?

[Focus Beam]

Titus becomes -really- obvious and easy to read after keeping around for a little while.
I'm fine without voting there for now. I like my Jaqen vote.

I wanted to know your intentions in walling up against ProHawk. Right now it really seems to be stemming from a general sort of walliness/defensive nature that you have, but that's really null at best. I want to encourage you to stop responding to him, since you've made your points really clear. Encourage him to actually play the game too.

VOTE: Focus Beam
Why not?


@seiko: I actually got really aggravated by people scumreading me, so I tried to take a bit of a breather rather that shout at them. It's just annoying, because I know I'm town, and so when people scumread me real quick, it pisses me off, but it shouldn't, especially if I am not doing especially towny things. So I'm kinda like, "Well, I'll just accept it. If people want to be wrong, it's okay."

I think these speak for themselves. Varsoon should be wagoned post haste. I know Sal's going to read me the riot act for posting, but these posts together are horrendous.

~Titus

Off the top of my head, thinking of different groups:
The Planet (Confirmed)
ShinRa (Turks, Rufus, etc.)
Weapons (Technically Planet-aligned anyway)
Hojo (Likely third party?)
Sephiroth & Jenova (Makes sense as an anti-Planet group)
AVALANCHE (If Bork really wanted to make the flavor interact in absurd ways)
So on and so forth.
There are so many amalgamations of what could make up which factions that there's no use in use wasting a ton of time talking about it.

Let's just play the game at hand and not get caught up in flavor, flavor-speculation, debating sexism, etc.
That'd be really great.
That's what I'm trying to do.

P-EDIT:
Focusbeam would come into thread to talk mad shit at me for wanting town to have info. Mudsling and tunnel harder, scumshit.

Bork's smart enough about his flavor that we shouldn't discuss flavor at all. It's a distraction and may even be a detriment as scum is likely to benefit more than town.
For instance, in Xenogears Mafia, the main character was a scum traitor.

Let's just play the game at hand first and foremost.

Lets not talk about flavor.

Meanwhile, heres the possible scumteams I may or may not be on.

Also Titusala is scum. Moving on.

~Sala

Two instances where Varsoon contradicts himself.

First, Varsoon says that he wants to keep me around for awhile because I'll be obvious to read. Then he votes me because why not. When I highlight this and his wagon starts growing, so does his rage.

Second here, Varsoon has been big on not discussing flavor. Yet, he's been discussing it a lot himself.

~Titus

[Seiko x Naomi]

vote: hawk

[ProHawk]

Off the top of my head, thinking of different groups:
The Planet (Confirmed)
ShinRa (Turks, Rufus, etc.)
Weapons (Technically Planet-aligned anyway)
Hojo (Likely third party?)
Sephiroth & Jenova (Makes sense as an anti-Planet group)
AVALANCHE (If Bork really wanted to make the flavor interact in absurd ways)
So on and so forth.

Is this the post you are talking about flavor?

[ProHawk]

I have seen Town-Varsoon not use logic this way, and actually tunneled on him, thinking he was scum for it.

[ProHawk]

vote: hawk

And here I thought you were pissed about me not answering questions...

[Focus Beam]

That's the post where Varsoon is talking about flavor after he tells everyone else not to talk about flavor.

~Titus

[Focus Beam]

I have seen Town-Varsoon not use logic this way, and actually tunneled on him, thinking he was scum for it.

Link please?

[Seiko x Naomi]

My beef with Aeris was this: I noticed that she was publicly announcing that she hates playing scum. I thought it was a strange thing to say at the time, and so I questioned her on it. It turned into a whole few pages of useless arguing about a few pointless topics revolving around the character Aeris which wasn't my intent.

THIS IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED.

free town points to the first person who rereads and finds the problem with this statement.

[ProHawk]

Would you like quotes Seiko?

[ProHawk]

I have seen Town-Varsoon not use logic this way, and actually tunneled on him, thinking he was scum for it.

Link please?

TouHou Mafia

[Seiko x Naomi]

And here I thought you were pissed about me not answering questions...

no, I'm pissed at you because you were continuing to push a point that was blatantly false - that Aeris was lying about you not answering questions, and when she pointed out the question you didn't answer, you kept ignoring it.

but in the first place, if you didn't realize her opening was a joke about her name, you should have admitted as much instead of trying to spin that she did it bc of some agenda to convince everyone she hated scum.

[Seiko x Naomi]

Would you like quotes Seiko?

nope. I've read it and you're misrepresenting what actually happened there.

again, it should be obvious to anyone who actually goes back and reads it

[ProHawk]

"It's a travesty I didn't role aeris." =====> Joke about her name. I get it. I didn't question it.
"It would be a downright travesty if I also roled scum." ======> Is a statement that she doesn't like playing scum.

"Besides my aversion to playing scum, have you not played ff7?" =======> Self admitted she has an aversion to playing scum.

What is so difficult to understand here Seiko?

[Seiko x Naomi]

"It would be a downright travesty if I also roled scum." ======> Is a statement that she doesn't like playing scum.

no it's not, it's a statement that it would be a travesty if Aeris (apparently a major character in the game) was scum here.

if you're town, I think you should try to reread those interactions keeping that in mind.

[Focus Beam]

Yeah, looks like that link checks out Hawk. Ugh. That's totally inconsistent with the Varsoon I'm familiar with though. Talking about this with Sal.

~Titus

[ProHawk]

But since I'm obviously misrepresenting what happened, tell me like I am three.

[Frogging Mollie]

@singer - gif suggests that there is at least one scum in focus wagon bc focus looked town. Nacho says that if there's one it's p singer. Later he changes mind.

@notsci: dunno about titus but Sala looks town.

hi guy

can we talk

[ProHawk]

no it's not, it's a statement that it would be a travesty if Aeris (apparently a major character in the game) was scum here.

DUDE! LOOK AT HER RESPONSE!

Besides my aversion to playing scum

I do admit, I did mis-understand her CONNECTION between the two statements. HOWEVER it does not dismiss the fact that she said she hates playing scum.

[Focus Beam]

Also, there is a potential that there is more than two anti-town factions.

The only actual game relevant information I've put into the thread, besides the fact that I'm town, but instead Prohawk et whover wants to dwell on a name joke and blame me.

You people are weird and are not buying flowers!!!

I have no scum meta!!! Why are you dwelling on me because that's weird and I'm about to name a scum team related to pro hawk!

It would be a downright travesty if I also roled scum.

Why?

Besides my aversion to playing scum, have you not played ff7?

This is something I was confused by earlier ProHawk. Aeris has an aversion to playing scum, but has no scum meta? I'm not getting this here.

~Titus

P-edit:

VOTE: unvote

Varsoon's back to null for both heads.

[ProHawk]

That's exactly the reason why I asked. It quickly became a sore-subject.

[Focus Beam]

Sigh

~Drunkdragon.

Dont think I can talk titus on Jaq

[Focus Beam]

We're trying to work out where our next vote should be atm.

~Titus