Mini 1697 - a Re-balanced Game of Mafia - GAME OVER

Ankamius · Post Post #575 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:38 am

In post 560, Persivul wrote:
In post 558, Ankamius wrote:
It's self-meta that would be trivial to subvert. I can't tell yet whether it's a vague attempt to avoid suspicion or a white knight yet though.

I agree that self-meta is worthless, but I directed this to nether, who has acknowledged that he's using meta analysis on me. He hasn't disputed it, and I doubt he will. He modded a game in which I replaced in as scum, and lynched my partners on D2 and D3, but then went on to win.

In post 568, Persivul wrote:OK, meta can be used to attack someone, but that person cannot dispute that attack. Got it.

The issue is scope. The situation you brought up is exactly that, one you brought up. Nether hadn't said anything about you bussing until you made your post. You're trying to discredit a point by lowering the scope and arguing from that scope with a point that is inherently null the moment you point it out. Then, when you get challenged on it, you try to discredit them too.

I suddenly feel a lot better about a Persivul lynch tomorrow.

Persivul · Post Post #576 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:29 am

In post 575, Ankamius wrote:The issue is scope. The situation you brought up is exactly that, one you brought up. Nether hadn't said anything about you bussing until you made your post. You're trying to discredit a point by lowering the scope and arguing from that scope with a point that is inherently null the moment you point it out. Then, when you get challenged on it, you try to discredit them too.

Nether didn't say anything specific at all. He offered an ambiguous and unsupported opinion. I point to specifics that can actually be analyzed objectively. And you like his bit better.

Persivul · Post Post #577 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:31 am

Heck with it, nothing's going to change. I hope you flip green for me eventi!

VOTE: eventi

eventi · Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:33 am

Aw man... I said before. I'm VT. I'll try and enjoy the rest of my vacation. Good luck with these fools.

eventi · Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:02 am

Nah, I can't keep lying. I'm a goon. It was my first time, and I failed miserably. Good job, Nether. You were the only one to see through me.

davesaz · Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:05 am

I noticed the lack of response to questions.

TheDominator37 · Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:06 am

Knew it just like I said
That now clears thesp's name

eventi · Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:07 am

Sorry I let you down Thesp

davesaz · Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:08 am

TheDominator37 wrote:Knew it just like I said
That now clears thesp's name

Not if you and he are the other scum...

Word to the wise, the only 100% clear is a mod flip in a non-bastard game.

Though I think it's unlikely after eventi's post.

Netherspite · Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:09 am

In post 579, eventi wrote:Nah, I can't keep lying. I'm a goon. It was my first time, and I failed miserably. Good job, Nether. You were the only one to see through me.

Thanks for telling it before the flip.
I appreciate it.
I was actually considering switching to someone else for a moment or so.
You did well for your first time.

eventi · Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:10 am

In post 580, davesaz wrote:I noticed the lack of response to questions.

I should have say there and done nothing like you did

eventi · Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:12 am

In post 584, Netherspite wrote:
In post 579, eventi wrote:Nah, I can't keep lying. I'm a goon. It was my first time, and I failed miserably. Good job, Nether. You were the only one to see through me.

Thanks for telling it before the flip.
I appreciate it.
I was actually considering switching to someone else for a moment or so.
You did well for your first time.

You're a lot smarter than me, I never stood a chance

Netherspite · Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:12 am

Speaking of the other scum...
I am actually tentative about the

Persivul

now. Yes he is behaving similarly to the other scumgame where he replaced in. However, outright defending the partner is weird scum move. Only if he thought he can turn it. Idk, need to think more.

Netherspite · Post Post #588 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:13 am

Guys, we're in twilight now. Please keep talking. We have a 'flip'. Your opinions?

eventi · Post Post #589 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:14 am

In post 587, Netherspite wrote:Speaking of the other scum...
I am actually tentative about the
Persivul
now. Yes he is behaving similarly to the other scumgame where he replaced in. However, outright defending the partner is weird scum move. Only if he thought he can turn it. Idk, need to think more.

By all means, don't start now

Netherspite · Post Post #590 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:15 am

In post 586, eventi wrote:
You're a lot smarter than me, I never stood a chance

Actually I had 'Village idiot' text in my signature for a while

My 'logic' works differently from others. I got mislynched two times or so for that.

Netherspite · Post Post #591 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:15 am

In post 589, eventi wrote:
In post 587, Netherspite wrote:Speaking of the other scum...
I am actually tentative about the
Persivul
now. Yes he is behaving similarly to the other scumgame where he replaced in. However, outright defending the partner is weird scum move. Only if he thought he can turn it. Idk, need to think more.

By all means, don't start now

Why?

duppin · Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:16 am

In post 587, Netherspite wrote:Speaking of the other scum...
I am actually tentative about the
Persivul
now. Yes he is behaving similarly to the other scumgame where he replaced in. However, outright defending the partner is weird scum move. Only if he thought he can turn it. Idk, need to think more.

Actually consdiering he came in as a replacement, I could actually see him do this, but it would be very risky. Not entirely sure what to make of him just yet, but his play has bothered me several times.

duppin · Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:17 am

Anyway this leaves us with a pretty decent town circle to work with tomorrow.

Netherspite · Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:18 am

@Persivul

Please do not disappear, I'm curious about your opinion on the 'flip'.

eventi · Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:18 am

Townies - I don't think he's smart enough to act this dumb. I finally have my read.

Netherspite · Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:19 am

In post 595, eventi wrote:Townies - I don't think he's smart enough to act this dumb. I finally have my read.

Your words are WIFOM since the hammer

duppin · Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:19 am

Persivul is definitely suspicious, but I'd also like to take a look at Alchemist now. With eventi flipping scum, I'd say there is a decent chance Alchemist is scum as well.

Persivul · Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:22 am

eventi - you bastard (assuming you're telling the truth)!

Well done though, and I still don't think nether's case was good.

Persivul · Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:24 am

In post 594, Netherspite wrote:
@Persivul

Please do not disappear, I'm curious about your opinion on the 'flip'.

Assuming he's scum, there's at most one scum on his wagon, and likely not even that. I have to agree with duppin that, excluding me, it will be a decent town block to work from.