Saki Achiga-hen episode of side-A Mafia [OK]

[Wisdom]

Xtoxm why are you not voting nacho?

[Xtoxm]

I want the hammer.

[pieguyn]

votecount 2.13

Nachomamma8 (7) - Bitmap, Sakura Hana, Jazzmyn, Varsoon, singersigner, Gin and Sonic, Wisdom

Gin and Sonic (3) - Voidedmafia, Chandra Nalaar, Bins
Profgessor Emotion (2) - Elbirn, InflatablePie
Xtoxm (2) - Nachomamma8, Profgessor Emotion
Wisdom (1) - Benjamin Applebaum
Benjamin Applebaum (1) - Xtoxm

Not voting (3) - ZZZX, Cabd, pidgey

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is August 2, 13:00 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-08-01 13:00:00).

InflatablePie and Jazzmyn are V/LA until July 26. Cadb is V/LA until July 27. Elbirn is V/LA until July 30. ZZZX is V/LA until August 1.

[Bitmap]

I will look over Farside's ISO.

[Voidedmafia]

If that statement was based in fact, you might have been part way to having a point.

Why are you pushing him then? Who else have you pushed?

[Profgessor Emotion]

voided is right,nacho wagoin should never eost

it's one of the wrost wagons in the hosrity of wagons

[Profgessor Emotion]

can someone tell me why we're lynching acho again? other than sakura saying she has a scumread on him and is doing bothing but tunnelfucking

[singersigner]

unvote
vote: Benjamin Applebaum

[Wisdom]

Why?

[Wisdom]

can someone tell me why we're lynching acho again? other than sakura saying she has a scumread on him and is doing bothing but tunnelfucking

Because he's scum

[Wisdom]

voided is right,nacho wagoin should never eost

it's one of the wrost wagons in the hosrity of wagons

Mara is supposedly paranoid about Nacho

Yet it's the worst wagon in history

Right...

[Sakura Hana]

No, i actually have a townread on xtomx now.

[Nachomamma8]

You've been all over the place and your place on the Constantine wagon looks far too picture-perfect bus to me.
I'd kick myself in the ass a hundred times over if I let ScumNacho walk.

Picture-perfect bus in that I didn't have to do it and that it also didn't get any cred for me?

nacho, im having difficulty believing you think that you should be able to be read as town here and also think no one on site can read you. pls.

I don't think many people can read me competently.
Why does this mean that I can't think my lynch is a dumb one?

Because that doesn't make any sense?

What exactly are you having trouble believing in the first quote?

you're just scratching the surface level of our reads

The entirety of your reads on me is "gut". It's not true I don't demonstrate scum motivation as scum: scum always demonstrate scum motivation if they are playing towards a scum win con. It's frustrating because the entirety of your reads on me is that I'm not playing towards an obvtown Nacho meta that neither of you can actually recognize and because there's no other reason you're pushing me as scum.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm working on a readslist right now, will probably end up posting it in chunks because I am also doing other things now.

[Profgessor Emotion]

haaiii ncah0

[Profgessor Emotion]

why wo't ypu anser me, we weres su[[osed to meet up several hours ago

[Elbirn]

Hai profgessor!

Are you scum?

[Profgessor Emotion]

fuck yo, Imsuer town

supper town

[Profgessor Emotion]

i'm also usper frunk

like beyhond frunk and I'm suupoosed to have met up with nacho hours ago

[Nachomamma8]

why wo't ypu anser me, we weres su[[osed to meet up several hours ago

I'm not interested in talking to you when you're drunk, sorry.

[Profgessor Emotion]

I clled and even went to you fart and talked to shylcok bugt you weren't in your roomd

[Profgessor Emotion]

I ralked to shylock and you wern't in your room nacho

why werent' you in your room

[Wisdom]

We don't care, please stop

[Nachomamma8]

Benjamin - I don't really think there's a realistic change of Benjamin being scum. For one, I think it's unlikely that notscience busses the everloving shit out of Marquis if they are scum together; I think that a buddy the hell out of each other strategy is far more likely just because of their friendship and general strength of Marquis's scum game. Secondly, if they decided to pull a bus strategy, I would imagine it would be a full-out cross bus strategy: notscience pushing harder than Marquis and Marquis backing off immediately looked like Marquis trying to manipulate notscience and notscience backing down and looking elsewhere during that day after Marquis started lurking seemed like a townie having doubts on a read.

Bins - There are two major reasons why I think Bins is town. The first part is how she approached the exchange with singer: I think that the points where she went "you know, I'm

really really

bothered about this because it's confusing as shit but I don't have an alignment call from the exchange" was decently town; it would have been pretty easy to just OMGUS and make a bunch of noise or call singer town in an attempt to get her to stop. The second reason is the Marquis point that notscience brought up: I don't really see notscience telling singer that she "found a new titus" in response to her push on bins, I think that was an attempt to egg on the fight and manipulate singer into pushing bins harder.

Bitmap - There are a lot of interactions with the Marquis/Constantine slot, but none of them really go anywhere or seem genuine and it ends up looking like interaction for the sake of interaction.

Spoiler: Bitmap on Marquis/Constantine

I kind of don't like Marquis but it's purely gut.

Marquis doesn't have much on him. He's been vote hopping but that in itself is a big NULL.

(I don't understand why the vote-hopping point was even brought up in the first place!)

Out of all the wagons, St Const is probably best wagon right now but I'll catch up tomorrow.

I don't like how Bitmap says this and then never follows up on it, whether by voting Constantine or commenting on the slot.

I also don't like how he's willing to defend Xtoxm as a terrible lurker lynch, but then only half-defends Constantine as a lurker lynch (and don't understand the defense in the first place considering the "best wagon" comment earlier. I don't like his vote on me because we were "strapped for time" when Constantine was at 7 and I was at 2.

However, there are a few things that make me think he could be town: in particular, the way that he speculates that everyone in the game is a PR (my own role makes this a very strong possibility), and the brazenness of the way he defended blanket lurkers.

There's also a decently strong town tell here based on the dead thread of Corpse Party I just noticed:

Actually Const should of claimed before being hammered. I have a passive ability which helps me based on name determine alignment possibly.

Subject: Corpse Party - feeling the pain of death for all eternity

the last part, I agree that's unreasonable and I didn't think about that at all. I was assuming people who flavor spec'd would know the flavor, but it completely slipped my mind what would happen if specifically the flavor cop wasn't familiar with it. I agree it's pretty dumb to make a major part of the game rely on someone being familiar enough with the flavor to figure it out and will likely be very careful about using flavor cop in the future as a result of that.

The way Bitmap worded his softclaim seemed like a fixed flavor cop from the last game: I find it pretty unlikely that Bitmap would both be aware of this role in particular and think to fake claim a variation of it; it's a high risk play even if he was scum partners with people who were in Corpse Party and would think to fake claim it just because of the high probability of something like that actually being in the game.

I'd put Bitmap on the town side of things based on that and that alone. Admittedly, there is a chance I'm reading too much into the soft claim or that I'm underestimating someone on the scum team, but that doesn't seem overly likely as of now.

[InflatablePie]

nacho lynch still pretty meh

@wisdom 2810 - yknow, we have a prof wagon going if you'd like to join us.