Genesis Mafia - Game Over!

[Nachomamma8]

So the real question, Nacho, is whether this is indicative of him being scum not wanting to give controversial positions, or whether it's indicative of him being unable to keep up with this game?

There's a lot of effort being spent in how he words and presents his suspicion but not a whole lot in the actual reasoning behind them. If he was just behind, he wouldn't be as aware as he is about his reads on every single player, and we would get focused content as opposed to the big picture shit he delivered.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho just assume I'm bussing and join me then?

I am doing both of these things already.

[zakk]

So the real question, Nacho, is whether this is indicative of him being scum not wanting to give controversial positions, or whether it's indicative of him being unable to keep up with this game?

There's a lot of effort being spent in how he words and presents his suspicion but not a whole lot in the actual reasoning behind them. If he was just behind, he wouldn't be as aware as he is about his reads on every single player, and we would get focused content as opposed to the big picture shit he delivered.

this is pretty much a more wordy way of saying what i think

which is that cabd's reads feel like he's trying to make us feel a certain way about them

which is why i don't like reads lists because i always have to take them with a bucket of salt and suspicion
however, i also get mad when people do the same thing to my own, because it's infuriating

i'll give cabd another 12 hours before i hammer

nacho i think i finally understand you.
i was doubting you for a fair bit, but i think we can be friends this game.

bbmolla i also feel like i can work with.

[zakk]

Jazzmyn

we need your help. Could you research into the scum metas of Lady Lambdadelta and Ranmaru? We need to know what they are capable of. I have this paranoid feeling -- they were also pushing the vezokpiraka wagon hard. Lady Lambdadelta in particular.

Will do. I am back from the cottage but it is my RL birthday so dinner and drinks and cake and stuff for the next several hours. I will do my best to get caught up and go meta-diving later tonight/tomorrow at the latest.

Regards,
Jazz

Happy birthday!



As a birthday present I will un-blacklist you

Spoiler:

in hindsight it's rather silly to blacklist you just for a difficult attitude
especially when there are players on the site like ... well, you know

[singersigner]

So the real question, Nacho, is whether this is indicative of him being scum not wanting to give controversial positions, or whether it's indicative of him being unable to keep up with this game?

There's a lot of effort being spent in how he words and presents his suspicion but not a whole lot in the actual reasoning behind them. If he was just behind, he wouldn't be as aware as he is about his reads on every single player, and we would get focused content as opposed to the big picture shit he delivered.

this is pretty much a more wordy way of saying what i think

which is that cabd's reads feel like he's trying to make us feel a certain way about them

which is why i don't like reads lists because i always have to take them with a bucket of salt and suspicion

however, i also get mad when people do the same thing to my own, because it's infuriating

i'll give cabd another 12 hours before i hammer

nacho i think i finally understand you.
i was doubting you for a fair bit, but i think we can be friends this game.

bbmolla i also feel like i can work with.

Then why did you give one and why did you demand one of me? ("singer, reads list, nao")

[Untrod Tripod]

Votecount 2.18

BBmolla
Cabd - 5 (BBmolla, Master Zik, Nachomamma, Vi, singersigner)
Jazzmyn
Kagami - 2 (Cabd, zakk)
Lady Lambdadelta
Master Zik - 2 (LLD, Ranmaru)
Nachomamma8
Ranmaru
singersigner
Vi
zakk

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is (expired on 2015-07-30 17:00:00)

[Ranmaru]

I want to mention that if Cabd doesn't come in to get to the rest of his reads, it shows that he only decided to explain his town reads, and not his scumreads.

[zakk]

So the real question, Nacho, is whether this is indicative of him being scum not wanting to give controversial positions, or whether it's indicative of him being unable to keep up with this game?

There's a lot of effort being spent in how he words and presents his suspicion but not a whole lot in the actual reasoning behind them. If he was just behind, he wouldn't be as aware as he is about his reads on every single player, and we would get focused content as opposed to the big picture shit he delivered.

this is pretty much a more wordy way of saying what i think

which is that cabd's reads feel like he's trying to make us feel a certain way about them

which is why i don't like reads lists because i always have to take them with a bucket of salt and suspicion

however, i also get mad when people do the same thing to my own, because it's infuriating

i'll give cabd another 12 hours before i hammer

nacho i think i finally understand you.
i was doubting you for a fair bit, but i think we can be friends this game.

bbmolla i also feel like i can work with.

Then why did you give one and why did you demand one of me? ("singer, reads list, nao")

I have given 3 or 4 now in this game to my recollection

I do them sometimes and this game is different than most I have played in that it really felt necessary all three times just so I could stay on top of things

I wanted one from you because I felt like you were either coasting scum or demotivated and disinterested town and usually that helps people catch up to where they care enough about the game to continue playing

It certainly did for me. It also did for Ranmaru and I'm pretty sure a couple others did one too

I know Cabd is trying to, or was at least. I wanted to get his thoughts on the game because people seemed to think he was good, but he and Kagami have more or less disappeared

Part of me wants him to give a really epic townie sounding catch-up post, which seemed likely at first

Part of me wants him to make a really bad one which screams scum, which seems more likely than the above option

Most of me knows he's probably gonna lurk through this situation and hope the pressure disappears, like plum did with her L-1, and hope the pressure dies down

But it's far too close to deadline for that and even though this lynch is not ideal it's still a FAR cry from lynching zik, and I think Cabd has a decent chance of being scum

[zakk]

Votecount 2.18

BBmolla
Cabd - 5 (BBmolla, Master Zik, Nachomamma, Vi, singersigner)
Jazzmyn
Kagami - 2 (Cabd, zakk)
Lady Lambdadelta
Master Zik - 2 (LLD, Ranmaru)
Nachomamma8
Ranmaru
singersigner
Vi
zakk

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is (expired on 2015-07-30 17:00:00)

Also, this is a good wagon, except for VI

[zakk]

I want to mention that if Cabd doesn't come in to get to the rest of his reads, it shows that he only decided to explain his town reads, and not his scumreads.

I've thought about this for three minutes and I don't know what you're trying to say here

I think if he flips town we pay attention to what he's said, and if he's scum we pay attention to it in a different way

It looked like he was just going in order though

[zakk]

Bb molla, singer, let's talk as much as possible as soon as possible

[Ranmaru]

That's my point. Usually a person either just goes more into detail with their scumreads and focuses less on their townreads, or they do a full-reads list (like Cabd did) and do it all. Cabd had a full-reads list and just 'never' got to the scumread part. I agree with you though.

[Kagami]

...
I know Cabd is trying to, or was at least. I wanted to get his thoughts on the game because people seemed to think he was good, but he and Kagami have more or less disappeared

I'm still here, but I don't have any special thoughts that are valuable to express.

I had hoped that Cabd would articulate more reads given his categorization.

[zakk]

Why aren't you voting anybody Kagami

[Kagami]

because my vote would be hammer.

[BBmolla]

Kayaking could be scum

[BBmolla]

Kagami fucking autocorrect

[zakk]

because my vote would be hammer.

Why weren't you voting before then!!?!?

[zakk]

OBJECTION YOUR HONOR

KAGAMI IS SCUM AND NOBODY WILL LYNCH HIM

OBJECTION SUSTAINED STRING HIM UP

#justzakkdaydreams

[Kagami]

I wanted him to articulate his reads list.

I rarely vote until I want someone lynched.

[singersigner]

Bb molla, singer, let's talk as much as possible as soon as possible

Cool, as soon as possible is whenever I get a chance to at this convention. As much as possible won't be possible because I'm on V/LA for a reason.

I still don't understand why you bothered mentioning you hate reads lists if you were basically making one giant exception this game.

[zakk]

because my opinion doesn't change just because my actions do

i hate it when people RELY on everyone making reads lists
i hate it when people think i'm scummy for making reads lists
i hate it when people do nothing but make ever changing reads lists
therefore i avoid reads lists usually

but i'm not this game

but also:

i hate it when people make walls, and i have done a lot of that this game
i hate it when people get so involved, that they get really upset for pretty dumb reasons, and i've done that

i hate it when people sit around and talk about how much they hate things too, and now i'm the one doing that

so basically this game is a whole lot of meh

and i'm town
and i think you're town
zik is town
nacho is town
bbmolla is town

let's just lynch everyone who isn't in that list and walk away champions okay

[Jazzmyn]

Happy birthday!

Thanks! It was a lot of fun.

I am just about done my meta-diving. It will take a bit for me to grab links to make a complete post, so although I'm fine with a Cabd lynch, please don't end the day before I get the chance to post.

Regards,
Jazz

[Cabd]

Somebody close to the family just entered hospice and matter of days, not weeks or years left. I apologize to everyone, I didn't know time sinks would be cascading over like this. I literally am developing hives at having to replace out, it's that against my nature.

I hope somebody can do my slot justice because holy fuck are we screwed if not.

[Cabd]

For what it's worth, those really are my reads and this game is being snowed really hard FMPOV.