Nightingale's Tale - [Game Over]

[Brian Skies]

I'd prefer the game not last longer than it needs to be. And you're just running away like a coward right now. So what happens if Muffin dies tonight and it's just you, Gaiden, and myself? You flip a coin and regret not having another person's opinion?

[SXTLHGaiden]

I'd prefer the game not last longer than it needs to be. And you're just running away like a coward right now. So what happens if Muffin dies tonight and it's just you, Gaiden, and myself? You flip a coin and regret not having another person's opinion?

god dammit i agree with this post.

[SXTLHGaiden]

Yeah, but I've been vanillarized by the vanillarizing neighborizor we know exists. You have...a Sakura townread.

Still waiting on those posts that make me scum.

claimed and apparently not verified. remind me to stab kats later.

[Brian Skies]

Still waiting on those posts that make me scum.

[SXTLHGaiden]

sigh. the most telling one that was just wrong is the post that said "I unvoted Gaiden cause i thought he could conftown me, but since he can't, i'mma vote him again"
then nacho grew suspicious of you. and now he's dead.

[Brian Skies]

sigh. the most telling one that was just wrong is the post that said "I unvoted Gaiden cause i thought he could conftown me, but since he can't, i'mma vote him again"
then nacho grew suspicious of you. and now he's dead.

I unvoted you because you asked me to and I was interested to see where it would go (and it's not the game would have exploded in any way had I not just left my vote there). I voted you again because you're still PoE scum. My response about you 'conftowning me' was in response to Nacho because it doesn't make any sense for you to do as town as that just pigeonholes you into being lynched and I can only see you going that route if you were trying to avoid lynching me that day. There's an inherent dissonance in your logic at that point because if you thought something would point towards me being town, I'd expect you to want to go another direction for a lynch and explore the alignment of another player, which you never did.

[SXTLHGaiden]

ok, explain the no kill a few night ago then.

[Brian Skies]

Scum no killed just like they did when Mac got lynched.

[SXTLHGaiden]

why did you use the word "scum" and not "Gaiden" or "you"?

[Brian Skies]

Because scum is a definite term and even though you're the only person I think could be scum, you haven't flipped yet and there's the possibility I could be wrong.

[SXTLHGaiden]

But from your perspective, as you have said all this time, i am the only person who can be scum.

[Brian Skies]

With the exception of Muffin being something like a scum PGO. But I've generally had a townread on him throughout this game and I'm not sure FakeGod puts two killing roles like that in the same setup. I'm also giving Grapes the benefit of the doubt that he roleblocked who he said he would instead of trying to be sneaky like blocking me again.

[SXTLHGaiden]

Grapes had no reason to lie. At that point, he was effectively a cop.

[Brian Skies]

Not really considering 1) he never roleblocked you and 2) scum no killed twice. He was effectively useless, especially since scum knew who he was roleblocking considering he was expected to claim his target beforehand.

[Oversoul]

I'd prefer the game not last longer than it needs to be. And you're just running away like a coward right now. So what happens if Muffin dies tonight and it's just you, Gaiden, and myself? You flip a coin and regret not having another person's opinion?

Yes.
I won't regret it.

[Oversoul]

My gut says Gaiden is scum.

[SXTLHGaiden]

i find it great how brian is trying to discredit dead people.
anyway, if your gut thinks i'm scum, what's stopping you from voting
also, i just read the rules, if someone else votes for a no lynch, the day ends. wooo 50% no lynch policy.

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 9.1

Brian Skies [1] - SXTLHGaiden
SXTLHGaiden [1] - Brian Skies

No Lynch [1] - Oversoul

Not Voting [1]

- zMuffinMan

With 4 alive it takes 3 to lynch

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Deadline is July 29, 2015, at Noon PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2015-07-29 13:00:00)

[zMuffinMan]

uh yeah since i don't think oversoul is going to change his mind any time soon, i'll just use the remaining time in this day phase to read stuff. i'm technically in the middle of moving but i'm really lazy so i'll prob take breaks for most of tomorrow and skim ISOs

[Oversoul]

I'll iso the flipped scum and see what I can find

[zMuffinMan]

going through nati's ISO

there's virtually nothing in there. nati was playing a low-information game and i'd assume leaving behind next to nothing in the way of interactions was part of that. literally no mention of either brian or gaiden

on brian's side of things, there's light mentions of a town lean on nati here and there but nothing particularly definitive in the way of interactions. gaiden's only mention of nati is that post near the very end of the day where he says he's not feeling the nati lynch which isn't particularly telling one way or another given it's gaiden

meh

i'll probably look over noddy interactions after a nap since there's probably more there

[zMuffinMan]

I really wish we had that extra lynch buffer right about now

tbh I don't think either Brian or gaiden look particularly good from the noddy interactions

there's some interactions between Brian and noddy early on that maybe I'm reading too much into but the way they were interacting with each other didn't look like typical early game joking around so much as being overly conscious of each other. Eg asking noddy to vote him on p6 to confirm gif scum which, apart from making no sense, felt oddly forced

there was like a 40-page gap between some posts from Brian where he goes from saying he expected more from noddy to saying he thought some of noddys posts were town in a big catchup wall and not much more than that, which wouldn't be that strange except for the fact that he had a lot more to say about others in the game at the time

the other mentions of noddy d1 aren't particularly interesting - atm I'm just trying to figure out whether I believe that (a) noddy chose to vanillarise him (and why N1 when he clearly wasn't an immediate threat via claim, if a threat at all), and (b) that Brian's read progression on noddy is believable

as for gaiden, every mention of noddy is pretty much "I think he's scummy but I always think he's scummy" and... that's it... no real support for a noddy lynch or anything... i really should look into how gaiden normally treas buddies but I doubt I'm going to get around to meta research like that, especially before the day ends, so whatever

please. please show me mercy tonight. please

[SXTLHGaiden]

hey brian, you around?
i has question, when did you learn you were vanillaized?

[SXTLHGaiden]

also muffin, you are forgetting how brian defended ns and said how ns couldn't be vanillaizer.

[zMuffinMan]

o yeah i remembered that but the explanation he gave made sense i guess

i'm not sure i would have assumed fakegod the vanillarise was related to the neighbourise

it could also have just been an attempt at diffusing suspicion but it's not something i'd say suggests them being scum together