NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[Garmr]

VOTE: dragonspawn

ok rc

[Bulbazoor]

I am putting it in quotes because it is obvious that I did not cast a secret vote.

[dragonspawn]

How is that obvious? We have no clue who did it. You just seems particularly suspicious because you came in wanting to push him to L1.

Why shouldn't the odd comment that you want him pushed to L1 and a secret vote pushing us to lynch make you a suspect? Why shouldn't we be looking at you as a potential suspect?

[Bulbazoor]

How is that obvious? We have no clue who did it. You just seems particularly suspicious because you came in wanting to push him to L1.

Why shouldn't the odd comment that you want him pushed to L1 and a secret vote pushing us to lynch make you a suspect? Why shouldn't we be looking at you as a potential suspect?

THERE WAS NO SECRET VOTE! I posted my intentions for it.

[davesaz]

VOTE: PB
Also iffy. He needs to get to l y n c h minus one.

Ah, I wonder if you put all those spaces in the word lynch for a reason?

I DID NOT VOTE BECAUSE IT WAS MY INTENTION TO HAMMER HIM. I PLANNED TO UNVOTE BEFORE SOMEONE CAME AND WHEN I RECONSIDERED MY READS BUT THAT NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO HAPPEN!!!

And I wonder who you're talking to in this post, the whole game or is it really meant for a specific recipient?

[Bulbazoor]

Dragon. I put the spaces because the l and y goy spaced.

[duppin]

VOTE: bulbVOTE:

Barely in the game and votes for the largest wagon without any pretense of catching up. May not be a smoking gun but it doesn't look good imho

Yes, in light of the early hammer, Bulbazoor's two contributions are very scummy.

VOTE: keyserI am here.
Btw this is serious. Something seems off.

VOTE: PB
Also iffy. He needs to get to l y n c h minus one.

VOTE: Bulbazoor

" two contributions are fucking scummy" yeah right. All you want to do is frame me. But after last night, I townread you. IS IT MY FAULT IT WAS NIGHT AT THE TIME I REPLACED IN?

If you think he is town, why would he want to frame you?

Dragon is saying stupid stuff. If I voted on him, it was to pressure him. So stop throwing fake things and fucking fake accusations my way.

I am being framed. And being accused of nothing.

I am not a huge fan of this 'I am being framed' defense but oh well. You pushing PB to L-1 is the reason he is pushing on you.
I would not say it is nothing, but meh.

@RC, why? Dragon seems to be obv!town today

That's basically a made up read. I can't fathom any town coming to that conclusion.

So you are going to claim everyone who disagrees with you is scum?

That seems scummy to me.

I'd expect a more visceral reaction given your obvious distaste for me in NY185.

Plus, I gave Bella the opportunity to explain how your behaviour was obv-town. He has not responded.

Why would I provide a visceral reaction from your lack of scum hunting? Because of that game I learned that your playstyle isn't alignment indicative. Just because you are scummy and act like a jerk doesn't make you scum.

Wait, so you call RC out for being scummy, but you admit that him acting scummy does not mean he is scum.
So what do you actually believe? I do not really see the point in calling him out only to 'defend' him.
Please note I do understand what you are saying, but considering you know how he plays, what do you actually think about him?

Anyway Bulbazoor's reaction feels genuine to me. He seems to really be fighting the votes on him and seems very frustrated.
Not necessarily a town tell, but I actually like it. Most of what he says makes no sense to me (framed?),
but his reaction feels like an inexperienced (please correct me if this is not the case) town,
and if this is the case it also means it is a fairly easy train for scum to push.

Not feeling his train at all to be honest. I am interested in the people on it though.

UNVOTE: Bulbazoor

Mind explaining your unvote?

VOTE: Dragonspawn

I will put my vote here for now. I'd also like to ask you a question.
Do you believe any scum voted on you d1?

[Keyser Söze]

Bulbazoor, can you clarify why you town-read me?

[Bulbazoor]

Your meta seems like the other game. The scumread comment was before I read. I also think that you are falling for the trick that I am scum wanting him at l-1 to get lynched.

[dragonspawn]

How is that obvious? We have no clue who did it. You just seems particularly suspicious because you came in wanting to push him to L1.

Why shouldn't the odd comment that you want him pushed to L1 and a secret vote pushing us to lynch make you a suspect? Why shouldn't we be looking at you as a potential suspect?

THERE WAS NO SECRET VOTE! I posted my intentions for it.

There clearly was a secret vote because on was lynched by a vote that no one knew about. Why are you saying otherwise?

[Bulbazoor]

People knew about my vote.

[dragonspawn]

VOTE: bulbVOTE:

Barely in the game and votes for the largest wagon without any pretense of catching up. May not be a smoking gun but it doesn't look good imho

Yes, in light of the early hammer, Bulbazoor's two contributions are very scummy.

VOTE: keyserI am here.
Btw this is serious. Something seems off.

VOTE: PB
Also iffy. He needs to get to l y n c h minus one.

VOTE: Bulbazoor

" two contributions are fucking scummy" yeah right. All you want to do is frame me. But after last night, I townread you. IS IT MY FAULT IT WAS NIGHT AT THE TIME I REPLACED IN?

If you think he is town, why would he want to frame you?

Dragon is saying stupid stuff. If I voted on him, it was to pressure him. So stop throwing fake things and fucking fake accusations my way.

I am being framed. And being accused of nothing.

I am not a huge fan of this 'I am being framed' defense but oh well. You pushing PB to L-1 is the reason he is pushing on you.
I would not say it is nothing, but meh.

@RC, why? Dragon seems to be obv!town today

That's basically a made up read. I can't fathom any town coming to that conclusion.

So you are going to claim everyone who disagrees with you is scum?

That seems scummy to me.

I'd expect a more visceral reaction given your obvious distaste for me in NY185.

Plus, I gave Bella the opportunity to explain how your behaviour was obv-town. He has not responded.

Why would I provide a visceral reaction from your lack of scum hunting? Because of that game I learned that your playstyle isn't alignment indicative. Just because you are scummy and act like a jerk doesn't make you scum.

Wait, so you call RC out for being scummy, but you admit that him acting scummy does not mean he is scum.
So what do you actually believe? I do not really see the point in calling him out only to 'defend' him.
Please note I do understand what you are saying, but considering you know how he plays, what do you actually think about him?

Anyway Bulbazoor's reaction feels genuine to me. He seems to really be fighting the votes on him and seems very frustrated.
Not necessarily a town tell, but I actually like it. Most of what he says makes no sense to me (framed?),
but his reaction feels like an inexperienced (please correct me if this is not the case) town,
and if this is the case it also means it is a fairly easy train for scum to push.

Not feeling his train at all to be honest. I am interested in the people on it though.

UNVOTE: Bulbazoor

Mind explaining your unvote?

VOTE: Dragonspawn

I will put my vote here for now. I'd also like to ask you a question.
Do you believe any scum voted on you d1?

That's the problem with rc he plays a scummy game in my opinion. Even as a townie.

I pointed it out because I tend to think sharing our points and thoughts is important and I wanted to see his response.

[dragonspawn]

Btw was that last question for me or geyser?

[dragonspawn]

Bulb the fact that you won't tell us why you wanted him at L1 and keep denying there was a secret vote doesn't make me less inclined to suspect you

[Keyser Söze]

Mind explaining your unvote?

I misinterpreted something he said in relation to town-reading me since N1 (I will now re-read his D2 posts).

[Bulbazoor]

Keyser dude.

[dragonspawn]

People knew about my vote.

No one knew about the secret vote until the hammer which is why it was secret.

[Bulbazoor]

They had to have seen it dude.

[dragonspawn]

Are you just not paying attention? Do you not see that vote between mine and Fa that says <vote> that no one knew about and no one knows who is from?

Who do you think cast that vote?

[Sword Master]

V/LA

Please specify a length of time and consider replacing if you are under extenuating circumstance. Too long an abscence and I may have to replace a slot

[Bulbazoor]

I do not know tbh.

[dragonspawn]

So if you don't know would anyone but the person who cast it know who?

[duppin]

Btw was that last question for me or geyser?

Oh sorry, it was for you.

[Bulbazoor]

I am leaning scum on aeronaut.

[davesaz]

V/LA

Please specify a target date, it helps to know when you change from v/la to lurking state.