WiFom City: Don't Trust Titus - GAME OVER

[Gratuitous]

Look at these noncontroversial reads.

Its like ... who can I call scummy to appear to be scumhunting but without actually doing anything?

Lets see, elusive already paved the way for calling PV scummy, check.

Prolapse is a super boring lurker, check.

Bulb is already taking heat and barely fighting back, check!

Or if you were actually reading, I've been critical of Peregrine since #130, but hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your story-telling

[Bulbazoor]

Hes my top sdumread.

[Atum]

[quote="In post 260,
DEAR TOWN 1. Who have you played with before on from the player list? 2. Choose one player and describe their town vs. scum meta. 3. Link to your most recent finished town game and scum game (can be offsite but preferable on MS) 4. What is your fave scum hunting tool? 5. Pick a color for your soul. 6. Which player do you want to ask a question of? Ask them that question. Thank you my lovely dear darlings, <3
[/quote]
1) elusive, Grib, and ZZZX
2) Can't help ya. But Grib's posting has been in bursts lately.
3) Town - https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showt ... hp?t=29397
Scum - https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showt ... hp?t=27033 (3p)
4) Uhhh...reading? Idk PoE or something.'
5) Royal blue with magenta undertones
6) Grib! Explain your townreads on Pidgey and Bulbazoor.

Please don't grill me, it's terrible for my skin.

1. I've played with these players: Klingoncelt, Prolapsed Brain, The Blue Blur, Drizzx, mastin2, Banana Frog, Quoth The Pidgeon, PeregrineV, The Goat, Muffin
2. Uhh, I don't think I can do that with anyone here? I used to be good at reading Peregrine, but that was 1-2 years ago. I've lost my touch now.
3. Town. Scum.
4. Interaction based.
5. Uhh... Khaki?
6.

Triforce

, I feel that you are playing scummy. Do I need to give an explicit reason with every vote?

@6: It would be really helpful if you could preface your votes with some sort of reasoning/explanation, yes.

Choose 4 people from your list in 1. that you'd pick for your ideal-ish scumteam.

[Atum]

Well that didn't work

[Atum]

Stuff to elusive/Grib is in the quote, stuff for Oversoul is below.

[Banana Frog]

inb4 bulbazoor asks: a TvT is when two townies are going up against each other and scumreading each other. not when they're mutually townreading each other.

--Plotinus

This was mean. I knew what a t vt is. Nice of you though.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings; you're still scum though.

If you know what a TvT is then why did you call Mastin/Quoth a TvT?

--Plotinus

[Oversoul]

Outside of that I'm looking at:
Peregrine, who's beginning I was not a fan of at all, and hasn't done much to rectify that.

Prolapsed: Who hasn't posted much at all in the way of content

Bulbazoor: Who's recent play makes me content not to move my previously RVS vote off of him

Look at these noncontroversial reads.

Its like ... who can I call scummy to appear to be scumhunting but without actually doing anything?

Lets see, elusive already paved the way for calling PV scummy, check.

Prolapse is a super boring lurker, check.

Bulb is already taking heat and barely fighting back, check!

Normally I would agree with you, but he is suspecting me. I think his reasoning for suspecting me is townie. Do you disagree?
You also think Bulbazor is scum, though?

[Quoth The Pidgeon]

Or if you were actually reading, I've been critical of Peregrine since #130, but hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your story-telling

I think its pretty clear that I've been reading the thread, lol.

The truth is that your reads are all extremely non-controversial and post 130 is even more of that.....nothing controversial. First you just disagree with his approach. Then you say that PV looks unjustified without actually commenting on his alignment or delving into his post at all. To sum that gem up, we get a sudden change of traction from "Pv might be weird maybe" to "Personally, I'm just...." which kind of waves away the previous part of the post. Ya no.

If I weren't a hydra, I'd be voting this right now.

[Oversoul]

Stuff to elusive/Grib is in the quote, stuff for Oversoul is below.

I explained my vote recently.

[Muffin]

I was trying to track wagons but last VC is coming up on 10 pages ago, so here are the current tallies AFAICT

elusive

(2): Quoth The Pidgeon, Klingoncelt

The Blue Blur

(3): Prolapsed Brain, LittleGumball, elusive

Atum

(2): Persivul, PeregrineV

TriforceP

(3): Atum, Muffin, Oversoul

Bulbazoor

(4): Gratuitous, Blue Blur, Banana Frog, Muffin

Persivul

(1): Bulbazoor

PeregrineV

(1): MaxwellPuckett

Oversoul

(1): Drizzx,

[Muffin]

... and I have myself in there twice.

Pro.

[Gratuitous]

Or if you were actually reading, I've been critical of Peregrine since #130, but hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your story-telling

I think its pretty clear that I've been reading the thread, lol.

The truth is that your reads are all extremely non-controversial and post 130 is even more of that.....nothing controversial. First you just disagree with his approach. Then you say that PV looks unjustified without actually commenting on his alignment or delving into his post at all. To sum that gem up, we get a sudden change of traction from "Pv might be weird maybe" to "Personally, I'm just...." which kind of waves away the previous part of the post. Ya no.

If I weren't a hydra, I'd be voting this right now.

If you really paying attention, you would see that the second part of #130 was a subtle response to Atum's avatar question, the same question the Peregrine overreacted about that caused me to develop my read on him.

[Titus]

Official Vote Count 1.07

Bulbazoor

(4): Gratuitous, The Blue Blur, Banana Frog, Muffin

The Blue Blur

(3): Prolapsed Brain, LittleGumball, elusive

Atum

(2): Persivul, PeregrineV

TriforceP

(2): Atum, Oversoul

elusive

(2): Quoth The Pidgeon, Klingoncelt

Persivul

(1): Bulbazoor

PeregrineV

(1): MaxwellPuckett

Oversoul

(1): Drizzx

Not Voting

(5): mastin2, TriforceP, Grib, Riku, The Goat

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Riku and The Goat have been prodded.

[Oversoul]

Or if you were actually reading, I've been critical of Peregrine since #130, but hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your story-telling

I think its pretty clear that I've been reading the thread, lol.

The truth is that your reads are all extremely non-controversial and post 130 is even more of that.....nothing controversial. First you just disagree with his approach. Then you say that PV looks unjustified without actually commenting on his alignment or delving into his post at all. To sum that gem up, we get a sudden change of traction from "Pv might be weird maybe" to "Personally, I'm just...." which kind of waves away the previous part of the post. Ya no.

If I weren't a hydra, I'd be voting this right now.

If you really paying attention, you would see that the second part of #130 was a subtle response to Atum's avatar question, the same question the Peregrine overreacted about that caused me to develop my read on him.

I wouldn't quite call Peregrine's reaction an overreaction. Why do you think it is?

[Muffin]

If you really paying attention, you would see that the second part of #130 was a subtle response to Atum's avatar question, the same question the Peregrine overreacted about that caused me to develop my read on him.

Explain why overreacting makes him scum

[Gratuitous]

I think it was an overreaction because he specifically worded it as "the most suspicious thing in the thread," which to me looks like he's trying to make a large issue over it on something to me is still early enough at that point to be a pretty null event.

[Quoth The Pidgeon]

FFS, I have to do work while I'm here at work.

At this point I'm convinced that G is scum though. Will talk it over with TTH to see if she thinks I am just insane.

The reaction to my push is nitpicking progressively smaller details about it and ignoring the main point. I still don't know if he thinks I'm scum, an idiot, or what cause he doesn't seem to be trying to get a read on me at all. Just assert that I'm wrong and point to some detail that disproves (lol) my thoughts on his presence.

OK I'm out! I felt like I had some things to say to OS and Pers but I gotta do work and stuff. Plus I've pissed off enough people for one afternoon.

[Bulbazoor]

Quoth is still town. Just not sure about me

[Muffin]

I think it was an overreaction because he specifically worded it as "the most suspicious thing in the thread," which to me looks like he's trying to make a large issue over it on something to me is still early enough at that point to be a pretty null event.

why does that make him more likely to be scum than town

[Bulbazoor]

inb4 bulbazoor asks: a TvT is when two townies are going up against each other and scumreading each other. not when they're mutually townreading each other.

--Plotinus

This was mean. I knew what a t vt is. Nice of you though.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings; you're still scum though.

If you know what a TvT is then why did you call Mastin/Quoth a TvT?

--Plotinus

I am not scum. T and Tinteraction.

[Atum]

Stuff to elusive/Grib is in the quote, stuff for Oversoul is below.

I explained my vote recently.

I wasn't asking you to explain it. I was, however, asking for an ideal scumteam of yours based on the list of players you know in the game.

[MaxwellPuckett]

Persivul, that's exactly what quoth was asking you. They had an opinion about your words and they said it. They didn't put words in your mouth. Your frustration isn't really alignment indicative, it's just grating.

I disagree:

"YOU SCUM?!?"

Followed in the next post by...

"Because flatly I don't see how those 3 posts could make anyone townread him."

is an accusation, not a mere request for clarification.

I was talking about their 436. I'm not sure why you thought I was talking about the Bulba thing.

[MaxwellPuckett]

Also, Muffin, I agree with Gratuitous. Well, obviously, considering I haven't yet moved my vote. Are you saying overreacting is a null action? Even if that's just your opinion, you can't honestly believe that other people wouldn't think differently.

[Muffin]

Yeah cause town players never overreact, am I right?

Scumminess is not established through a recounting of actions taken. It is through a demonstration of why actions taken serve the Mafia's interests that we can discover them.

[MaxwellPuckett]

Outside of that I'm looking at:
Peregrine, who's beginning I was not a fan of at all, and hasn't done much to rectify that.

Prolapsed: Who hasn't posted much at all in the way of content

Bulbazoor: Who's recent play makes me content not to move my previously RVS vote off of him

Look at these noncontroversial reads.

Its like ... who can I call scummy to appear to be scumhunting but without actually doing anything?

Lets see, elusive already paved the way for calling PV scummy, check.

Prolapse is a super boring lurker, check.

Bulb is already taking heat and barely fighting back, check!

Doesn't your scumlist also include Bulba? As well as Klingoncelt and Gratuitous?

PEDIT: Yes, that's true. But if you go through every action and say 'well town can do this too' (and they usually can), you're not gonna get anywhere. You have to make pushes and see how players react, as well. Anyways, you're reading PV as null, right?