Micro 508: MafiaMafiaNotMafia (Bins' Soup Sucks)

[chamber]

turn it around

I've been claiming this for most of my posts.

[chamber]

using this to imply that you are also competent.

It wasn't an implication. I am. It just didn't need to be said.

[chamber]

seriously, if you have all this time to sit here and argue with me over theory, wouldn;t that time be better spent looking at other players outside of your group? or even the ones in your group?

btw irish needs to be posting more.

You are in my group. This is certainly part of me getting a feel for you. I haven't been arguing the theory.

[chamber]

YOU made the big deal (and continue to make a big deal) about me not expounding on why I think I'm right, but the answer is right there, I don't think arguing the theory is important so I'm not arguing it.

[Not_Mafia]

Do you really think there's such an large amount of "effort" to out in to hunting in your own group that hunting outside of it encroaches on it?

[chamber]

Do you really think there's such an large amount of "effort" to out in to hunting in your own group that hunting outside of it encroaches on it?

This isn't entirely clear as a question because of some typos I think, but I'd go with yes, yes it is.

[Not_Mafia]

I don't agree with Chamber, I'm not convinced he believes it but I've seen town argue the same thing. I liked Parama at the start but her deconstructions of Chambers looks like a lot of window dressing and seems she's just throwing out a bunch of stuff at a bunch of people for the sake of it

[Parama]

so you're just going to keep being dismissive, alright

[Parama]

I don't think arguing the theory is important so I'm not arguing it.

k if you say so

I don't agree with hunting outside our groups. Getting three informed lynches through is going to be difficult enough without everyone cluttering it up.

Because it doesn't matter. Today all that matters for me is figuring out which of you and pope is more likely to be scum. Effort used on other things is wasted. We'll have waaay more information from other sources by the time that I need to consider other groups. If someone sees something absolutely damning, sure they can say something, but the focus should absolutely be on everyone figuring out their own group.

I feel time pressed to settle on 1 lynch choice in a 2 week period. I don't know how anyone could have enough time to be satisfied with 3. That's what I mean by wasted effort. If you have time to be looking at those other candidates you should be focusing it on the choice you can actually impact instead.

k i f y o u s a y s o

[Parama]

NM, I'm guessing you don't agree with me on chamber, then? why am i wrong, then?
you're actually being a little dismissive too and that's irksome

[chamber]

Are you serious right now? Outside of the first instance where I'm making my opinion known, you are the one that prompted those responses. I was being as brief as I could be.

[Parama]

if you don't think it's important then why bother to argue it with me at all?

[Not_Mafia]

I don't necessarily disagree, I've seen town argue it before in this set-up and there's nothing that particularly hits me as "Chamber doesn't believe this"

[InflatablePie]

yeah so PlotCat's catchup just looks like a lot of IIoA which makes my eyes glaze over every single time

reads explained:
- Bins I wanted to pressure to see her reaction to my baseless read, and I'm not sure how to read it... I'm currently leaning town though
- Cat's first post (19 pinged me as scum. lack of vote, instead an FoS @ Bins, commenting on a few things in a generic 'scum faking involvement' fashion, and mainly the comment about NM being 'fluffy' ~14 posts into the game. 'sides, to NM's credit, he did comment that TIP's entrance was bad, so I don't even think that's particularly fluffy.
- I could see Parama being aggressive-scum. I don't think chamber is scum and Parama's reaction to chamber's push on him is eh. And also Parama pushing chamber for an arguably bad reason doesn't help sway that.
- admittedly TIP needs to post more, but I'm null-town on him for now. mostly due to gut and my leaning scumread on Parama.
- The last group is the hardest one for me to sort. Edo is town because of the aforementioned 'too scummy to be scum' argument that I know everyone loves, plus a general town attitude. Lucky's leaning town because even though I disagree with his push on Edo, I think it has town conviction. plus his reaction to Parama calling him 'dumb town' seems genuine (I mean, it could be fake-able, I just don't think it is). NM I can see going either way, so he's

most likely

scum, but something about his play seems town. I'd like a general reads list from him though.

disclaimer - I know there's a lot of 'this didn't happen when I made my earlier readspost' stuff in there but I had to do quick-ISOs to remind myself of stuff.

I know this is a little early but

[@mod] - I'm V/LA every Friday and Saturday (long/late work days), as per sig. I'll probably keep reminding you every week, unless you say I don't need to.

@players - My SO's sister is coming into town Thursday -> Tuesday so my activity level will be low for the next week or so.

vote Unicat

1v1 bish

[InflatablePie]

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oops.

[Parama]

for the sake of my sanity can you unvote for now, pie
i'm really uncomfortable with irish basically having the hammer rn, 2 votes on uni and 2 votes on lucky as it stands

[InflatablePie]

oh, is bins voting uni?

unvote

[InflatablePie]

she unvoted in 131

so it's fine

vote unicat

[Parama]

o right bisn unvoted nvm carry on

[InflatablePie]

I mean if I'm wrong on Unicat

and

Parama I still think that last group is all-town

so

like, if TIP and Bins are both scum and both want to hammer, I'm kind of okay with that

yeah yeah, something something pie is trying to set up lynches blah blah something, I'm just thinking out loud here.

[Parama]

I don't necessarily disagree, I've seen town argue it before in this set-up and there's nothing that particularly hits me as "Chamber doesn't believe this"

yeah i'll give him credit for sticking to his guns whether or not he does believe it, wrong as his theory is, the problem i have is how he's dressing up his arguments and dismissing my own
and from how he's not posting any scumhunting content of his own i have to come to one of two conclusions:
1. he's scum and doesn't have any
2. he's internalizing his reads and not sharing anything with the class

the latter is kinda anti-town, there's no reason to hide your reads imo

anyways pie, my reasoning for chamber is arguably bad, apparently, so argue with me why it's bad.
i'm not letting dismissiveness be the prime theme of this game

[Rainbow Unicat]

Ugh, even though Pie is voting for us, his recent posting looks really town-y. Especially the unvoting. However, a lot of his issues with ploti-cat are play-style: trust me, this is her 'tryharding' as town.

Edo and NM are really hard for me to read rn. Where are other people on them?

-bx

[Lucky2u]

NM, can you explain your read on me in a way that's not doge speak since I didn't really understand what the hell you said when you voted me.

[TheIrishPope]

Page 4 right now, don't like how edos criticised chamber for the vote but did the same thing before

[TheIrishPope]

On page 6, Parama's call for activity is interesting even though other people have not been posting as much as I have