NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[TheDominator37]

How can there be you have 8 scum reads then?

[Keyser Söze]

@pisskop

. Do any scum faction(s) have day chat?

As per the game rules, All private chats have daychat

[Keyser Söze]

Bulba, where did your suspicion of Keyser go? You seemed pretty set on it in your first post.

I am still curious about this too - I dislike "meta" reasons.

LOOK AT THE SCUM ON MY WAGON!

LOOK AT THEM!

FILTHY. ABSOLUTELY FILTHY.

We started with 21 players. We would thus expect 5 or 6 scum for a balanced set-up. Do you honestly believe 4 of the scum (FA_Q2, TheDominator37, Kop, Keysor Söze) would

all

be on your wagon?

The extra kill only intensifies this.

Almost forgot this. Only one extra kill huh, FA?

We're in multi-ball ladies and gentleman. FA was clearly expecting two kills; not three.

VOTE: FA

Interesting spot - I'll have to see if it's in the right context (I've town-read FA_Q2 in D2). Why is your vote off me now? You've been voting and naming lots of players now as your scum-reads. I have a worry you're just creating WIFOM now.

We've already had hint's about neighbourhoods, and possible scum-slips about multi-scum factions and people calling other players 'town' out-right - could they all be related?

As per the game rules, All private chats have daychat

Theory: BlueBloodedToffee knew he was caught, so basically gave up - "BBT gives 0 fucks about this game." (damage limitation).

Then someone in his scum day-chat tells him not to give up - to go back and cause as much confusion as possible, scum-reading half the players left alive, creating WIFOM, sheeping dead townies and voting different people.

[Keyser Söze]

How can there be you have 8 scum reads then?

Those are good odds, 8 in 16

I'll name my 16 scum-suspects next...

[RadiantCowbells]

That's a solid point regarding FA_Q2.

Still think we should lynch DS, because DS gives more info on BBT than vice versa and all the people who I don't like alignment wise are on the BBT side of the spectrum.

[FA_Q2]

The extra kill only intensifies this.

Almost forgot this. Only one extra kill huh, FA?

We're in multi-ball ladies and gentleman. FA was clearly expecting two kills; not three.

VOTE: FA

We have is 3 kills and that is a problem. We do not know if we are in a game with 3 scum factions and if we are then losing 3 townies is very bad.

I have never played a large normal that was not a multi-ball game. I expect that it is multi-ball. Do you honestly expect something different? Do you have any idea how slow the game would be with a single kill per night? Nice try but your logic falls very short. You are desperately trying to shake off the fact you have been caught red handed - key pegged you exactly:

Theory: BlueBloodedToffee knew he was caught, so basically gave up - "BBT gives 0 fucks about this game." (damage limitation).

Then someone in his scum day-chat tells him not to give up - to go back and cause as much confusion as possible, scum-reading half the players left alive, creating WIFOM, sheeping dead townies and voting different people.

[FA_Q2]

Like after day 1 I was going to vote aero at the start of the day but changed my mind after anaylising the night actions..

Why was you planning on voting Aero? What about the night actions made you change your mind?

Pushing so hard for PB to L-1 looks VERY suspicious now that there is a hidden vote in play. Not thinking for yourself and sheeping a dead players votes looks scummy as well. Then pushing key because he is posting relevant information (while ignoring the analysis he has been posting thus far) is also scummy as hell.

OK, same question for you as Keyser (which he dodged) - why is the pusher of the wagon scummier than the people who joined it? Also, your assertion that I'm scum because of the hidden vote is only valid on the basis that, well, I'm scum and knew about the vote. So I'm already scum before you have done any 'analysis'.

Why is sheeping dead players scummy? Why is sheeping dead players scummier than the amount of people who sheeped me onto the PB wagon (you were one of those people)? Again, did Mykonian provide my reasons for why Keyser is scum or did I provide them? Because if I provided them (and I did) then this point is no longer valid.

Why is pushing Keyser scummy? If you disagree with my reasoning, that's fine, but pushing someone who you're town reading does not make me scum.

Lying and misrepresenting my case does.

I never pushed you because you voted key - I pushed you because your reasoning was shit. zero scum hunting and zero effort while sheeping dead town without any explanation. You were not using your vote to scum hunt, push the game forward or even gather information. You were simply trowing it out there so you looked like you were participating. Then you push key while directly misrepresenting his posts thus far in the game. You jump on a single post as though it was try hard town without any value (which was false) but ignored anything else he posted. Completely fabricated read. It is as though you logged on, seen that post and said 'hey, I can frame THAT as a scummy post' and then logged off. Town would check the player to see if they were scummy. You, as scum, simply wanted something you could fabricate.

I have seen your town play as well BBT - you were through as fuck and posted a lot of relevant info/good scum hunting. You have avoided scum hunting this game as much as possible.


Context is important.

[Bulbazoor]

@pisskop

. Do any scum faction(s) have day chat?

As per the game rules, All private chats have daychat

Hey hye.

If you want mmy reasons to acum read aero. It is because aero has been posting things like useless filler and whenever he posts something, it is basically commenting on already existing opinions instead of making his own reads and conclusions from the comtext of the thread. Even his rvs vote came off bad to me. And so did his entrance.

[Bulbazoor]

Sorry. Did not want to quote.

[FA_Q2]

I believe that Dragon is town because of this post You should too.

Why?

That does not make dragon town in any shape or form. Given what we know, if the double vote is a scum PR then it is very likely that they knew that it was in play.

IOW, that really has little bearing on weather or not dragon was town. It is exactly the type of post that scum would have thrown in there to seem town. As far as I am concerned, it is a null. That post neither shows dragon as town or scum.

[FA_Q2]

Hey hye.

If you want mmy reasons to acum read aero. It is because aero has been posting things like useless filler and whenever he posts something, it is basically commenting on already existing opinions instead of making his own reads and conclusions from the comtext of the thread. Even his rvs vote came off bad to me. And so did his entrance.

Are we reading the same thread?

Everything I just quoted by Aero is against the tide and not using what has already been said??

He has been lurkey but I would not state that he is just repeating what others have stated. As a matter of fact, that really describes you...

[Bulbazoor]

Heh i knew that was what was going to be said.

[Bulbazoor]

K. I have read through his iso again and decided he can be a happy town for now. Thanks for quoting hat post. It helped me.

[Bulbazoor]

Dom is a suspect though.

[FA_Q2]

Dom is a suspect though.

why dom?

That matters because dom is pushing my top read.

[Keyser Söze]

Time for today's maths lesson:

5

I'm caught up.

Willing to lynch;

Dom

,

FA

,

RC

,

Garmr

and

Dave

Today.

+ 4

Forgot

Bulba

and

Kop

; will lynch those as well.

Both Dragon's and my own wagon are

full of scum

.

I can tell you there is at least two scum (probably three) in Dom/FA/Kop/

Cow

/

Duppin

.

(BlueBloodedToffee forgot to name duppin, who he'd previously sheep-voted)

+1

VOTE:

Keyser

My vote won't be moving.

= 10

Who does that leave on his town/null read-list?

(6) Dragonspawn, kitty Galore, Aeronaut, Boonskiies, Shazam, Sword Master

[Bulbazoor]

I am all in for kitty as scum also. Will explain that.

[TheDominator37]

Hey hye.

If you want mmy reasons to acum read aero. It is because aero has been posting things like useless filler and whenever he posts something, it is basically commenting on already existing opinions instead of making his own reads and conclusions from the comtext of the thread. Even his rvs vote came off bad to me. And so did his entrance.

That is more or less what I said :/

[Bulbazoor]

See? Why did you want me to state that?it changed though.

[Shazam]

So I have to ask you this, why do you feel the need to construct straw men to attack? In fact, why are you attacking in the first place? Your pushing the wagon pretty hard for someone who isn't voting for it.

You're pushing my wagon at the same time as questioning those on the wagon not voting for any of us. Who exactly are you scum reading? Because right now it looks like you are trying to look like you are scum hunting without actually putting your money where your mouth is

This is good.

I think Dragon is town. I think he is starting to analyze his wagon and the people pushing it. I am liking his recent posting.

From a VERY QUICK skim of my ISO.

Yes, and neither one of those posts includes any real explanation. "This is good." "I like what he's doing." "I think he's doing x." "I think he's town." None of that ought to convince anyone else, and therefore does not count.

[Bulbazoor]

I still think he is town. His meta does not match scum from what I have read.

[FA_Q2]

I still think he is town. His meta does not match scum from what I have read.

please bother to attach a name to your read.

This is going to be confusing - particularly when it is time for an ISO.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Some people are talking absolute shit in this thread. I mean talking shit of the highest order.

I'll get to this later. I'm pretty convinced FA is scum.

[Bulbazoor]

BBT. Is town.

[dragonspawn]

I'm still leaning town on bbt. I understand the argument on him. But over seen him act like that as town

I like the point on FA. Not sure if it's significant yet though.