Star Trek Deep Space Nine Season 1 Mafia(game over!)

[Titus]

Just like I was sure scum yesterday right and we actually lynched scum over your objection. The more you say that, the less I want to vote Klingon.

[Sinsun1]

Keep going on and on Titus, PereV ain't being lynched today. You got yourself, Kling and one other scum mate out there who might be stupid enough to vote PereV today with both of you.

Meanwhile we got PereV, myself, Daves, Gumball and soon to be Thor and Suzune when she gets back that are going to eliminate your scum buddy today.

[Sinsun1]

Also Titus once again.

WHY WOULD THE DOC BE ON THOR OR I LAST NIGHT? Stop avoiding the question. I mean seriously, stop avoiding this question. I will repeat it multiple times so you do not miss it.

Titus, why would the doctor be on me or Thor if they were town?

TITUS, why would the doctor be on me or Thor if they were town?

TITUS, WHY would the doctor be on me or Thor if they were town?

TITUS, WHY would the DOCTOR be on me or Thor if they were TOWN?

Now answer the bloody question.

[PeregrineV]

@DaveAZ, yes I don't talk about ongoing.

A punnet square is where you take all four possibilities and line them into a chart. I'm using two charts because I don't get how to do vertical labeling.. For instance a punnet for PV Klingon looks like this FMPOV.

Lynch PV

PV Town
Klingon town	Klingon scum
Impossible unless PV is lying town, which is revealed by his flip	We get a scum flip tomorrow and confirm PV's setup is true

PV Scum
Klingon town	Klingon scum
We mislynch KT, confirm PV as full of shit.	PV looks like he's bussing but sneaks past us.

Lynch Klingon

Klingon Town
PV town	PV scum
Impossible unless PV is lying town	We get a scum flip tomorrow and confirm PV's setup is bullshit

Klingon Scum
PV town	Klingon scum
We get a scumflip, PV's setup is unknown to be true	Could be dual bus.

The moment their is a scum flip that doesn't match my posted roles, ill stand for the lynch.
Pretty much town too.

[Titus]

Drunk Titus is back... Weeeeeeeeeeeeee

Seriously though Suinsuin, there's plenty of obvtown reads and you're bitching about a doc picking the wrong one?

PV, that's the problem. I'm worried that you're bussing your scumbuddies to be conftown in lylo.

[Titus]

That or fabricating in a manner unlikely to be caught but hey...

let's just dismiss Titus as paranoid #drunk

[Klingoncelt]

I would presume Klingon wouldn't bother with a fakeclaim.

You presume correctly.

Either I pick a really bad fakeclaim (like a WAY non-normal in a normal game, or something stupid like Town Werewolf Day-Bulletproof Hippie,) or no one believes my more rational fakeclaims and I'm lynched anyway. No point in me making the effort.

[Titus]

I'm drunk but is this you claiming scum Klingon?

[Klingoncelt]

I know why you can't neighborize tonight.

What's this?

Is there a neighborhood?

[Klingoncelt]

@Klingon - does your self stump end the day? I would presume not, if you are town, as then there is no purpose to having that ability, but I'd like you to confirm that since if I ask the Mod I'll be told it's a theory question and he'll refuse to answer.

I don't know. There's nothing in the Role PM about the Day ending if I declare.

[Klingoncelt]

I'm drunk but is this you claiming scum Klingon?

No, it's me saying I don't fakeclaim, it never works for me.

[Titus]

So PV's alignment according to you is...

Your whole read list is...

[Klingoncelt]

@ Thor -

According to the Wiki:

Stumping does not end the Day

[Klingoncelt]

So PV's alignment according to you is...

Your whole read list is...

I threw my hands in the air Day 6.

The only somewhat confirmed Townies are Thor and Suzune.

Everyone

else is scummy to varying degrees.


Has anyone posted where Li'l Gumball and Sinsun were confirmed?

I might be mistaken, but I'm sure they and 1 other said they were confirmed by Narnian. Which of course is impossible.

[Klingoncelt]

Narn copped Thor and Hostile on the first 2 Nights. He copped Suzune Night 4.

He could not have copped 3 people on Night 3.

I'd really like to have this point cleared up.

[davesaz]

Where are you getting that he copped Thor?

[Klingoncelt]

Where are you getting that he copped Thor?

Hang on a sec, I'll get the link.

[Klingoncelt]

Post 1661 Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:17 pm
So with some strong presence of anti-town roles (beloved prince, worse than normal, miller) presumably the books are balanced.
One theory I have is Rumpelstiltskin. His post restriction made him a target to be looked at at least early. the character he was in had a couple other characters that were part of his group: Buck Bokai, an Alternative Jazdia.
They weren't inherently hostile in the episode, but their presence did cause danger. I could seem them being a scumgroup, I also feel he was on the wrong side of the fence regarding LQ's lynch.


and then I read that buck bocki was dead and is town. so back to the drawing board.

The Rumplestiltskin thing was Thor's predecessor, Ludicrous. Narn checked him N1 and Hostile N2 by the looks of this post.

[Klingoncelt]

Also, I hate like hell the idea of having to claim.

I don't wanna be a lame ol' stump.

But I suppose that would be better than getting lynched.

I think.

[davesaz]

Post 1661 Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:17 pm
So with some strong presence of anti-town roles (beloved prince, worse than normal, miller) presumably the books are balanced.
One theory I have is Rumpelstiltskin. His post restriction made him a target to be looked at at least early. the character he was in had a couple other characters that were part of his group: Buck Bokai, an Alternative Jazdia.
They weren't inherently hostile in the episode, but their presence did cause danger. I could seem them being a scumgroup, I also feel he was on the wrong side of the fence regarding LQ's lynch.


and then I read that buck bocki was dead and is town. so back to the drawing board.

The Rumplestiltskin thing was Thor's predecessor, Ludicrous. Narn checked him N1 and Hostile N2 by the looks of this post.

At best, this indicates that Narn was thinking about checking Ludicrous and decided not to because Buck Bokai turned up as town.
If he had checked Ludicrous/Thor, we'd expect something stronger, like "Rumplestiltskin should be town too" or even

is

town.

I happen to think that Thor is more likely town than not, but I really don't think this is a cop clear, nor does being "named" clear him.

[Klingoncelt]

Don't forget, there were 2 investigates. We didn't have a Day 2, so he investigated 2 players that double-night. He mentioned Thor in several posts in the next 2 day phases.

[Klingoncelt]

Anyway:

TREE STUMP

gawd I hate doing this.

[Sinsun1]

Anyway:

TREE STUMP

gawd I hate doing this.

So Kling, will the mod reveal your faction upon tree-stumping? If so, it will either prove or disprove PereV, which could blow the entire thing out of the water. My guess though is if the mod does show your faction, it will be scum. Because do explain how PereV knew there was a treestump in the game before you even claimed it if you are town.

Anyway, now that Kling has treestumped. I will hold my vote pending the outcome of this. But I believe it to be one scum vote gone from the game.

Actually just in case.. I need to ask the mod clarification.

@Mod, since Kling is treestump (which we've known for all of today), the question is. If the treestump is mafia, would the treestump "technically" being in the game affect town's numbers needed before lylo? Example: If there is 1 treestump mafia and 1 normal mafia along with 2 town left alive, will the mafia win or will the game continue?

[Nero Cain]

I am here now but won't have time to post till later

[Suzune]

It seems to all hinge down on whether or not PV is telling the truth. Which is suppose makes sense, the catch is simple.

If scum had made the list, then they would put some scum and some townie roles on it. This guarantees that if the townies choose the scum members on the list it make PV look good. Likewise the list was not made until after everyone had claimed giving him a certain amount of power in making the list because not surprising or new roles appeared on it because that creates a loophole in the plan.

If town, then we know that the name on the list are probably good, assuming of course the way that he got his information.

I never thought I would agree on something like this, but, Titus is probably right. The information is already out, that means that confirming the information could give us the information.