512: Bojack Horseman Season 2 (Over)

[Metal Sonic]

If I'm NKed, do what we always do: continue scumhunting

[Polar Vortex]

But why did you claim?

[Metal Sonic]

So that everyone knows what's going on ^______^

[EspeciallyTheLies]

[EspeciallyTheLies]

that doesn't mean you are confirmed ms. if you are scum you already know I'm town.

[Polar Vortex]

ETL is town, don't waste the investigation on her

[Metal Sonic]

what makes you so sure?

[Polar Vortex]

No, I'm not sure. Her play is still town. Still, there are lots of people who are blank spots. Who would be much better targets. Like really, the only reason for this is to avoid a policy lynch that we weren't doing in the first place. Her explanation is fine and natural to me

[Metal Sonic]

that doesn't mean you are confirmed ms. if you are scum you already know I'm town.

Are you saying that because you know she's town?

[Polar Vortex]

Then why don't you investigate us? Still a better target

[Metal Sonic]

That's great! I'll investigate you instead!

[Polar Vortex]

Sigh. Your play is too much like mine:P

[Metal Sonic]

are you male or female

[Polar Vortex]

I'm male. You still don't have a chance at me since I'm all snowstorm's. After courting him for three years, no way I'll dump him.
Btw, who do you want to lynch(if at all)?And what were you seeing in my iso?

[Metal Sonic]

is snowstorm male?

[Kaboose]

ETL is town

, don't waste the investigation on her

what makes you so sure?

No, I'm not sure.

Her play is still town. Still, there are lots of people who are blank spots. Who would be much better targets. Like really, the only reason for this is to avoid a policy lynch that we weren't doing in the first place. Her explanation is fine and natural to me

You really seemed sure at first. Are you sure you're not sure?

[Polar Vortex]

ETL is town

, don't waste the investigation on her

what makes you so sure?

No, I'm not sure.

Her play is still town. Still, there are lots of people who are blank spots. Who would be much better targets. Like really, the only reason for this is to avoid a policy lynch that we weren't doing in the first place. Her explanation is fine and natural to me

You really seemed sure at first. Are you sure you're not sure?

Well, exagerating reads is what we all do in mafia:P.

And Snow is I'm pretty sure also male

[sekai no ki]

I hate your gambits, MS.

[Firebringer]

On the bright side.

Town just got information. Will be helpful for night actions.

[Polar Vortex]

On the bright side.

Town just got information. Will be helpful for night actions.

Yeaaaaaah, I don't think you know what you're talking about. Yes, town got info but so did scum... And for them knowing the cop is like 100% more important

[Firebringer]

On the bright side.

Town just got information. Will be helpful for night actions.

Yeaaaaaah, I don't think you know what you're talking about. Yes, town got info but so did scum... And for them knowing the cop is like 100% more important

You just admitted that town got more info.

Stop going against everything I say.

I said "on brightside"
Obviously it would be better if evil didn't know our PR.

This ain't my first rodeo.

[Wingback]

These are pie's posts. Would you like me to try to answer them or would you like to wait for her to answer?

Either way works but neither of you answered my first question re: ETL. Also, if it is an independent read, I'd like your reasoning for it.

Hmm, I tend to belive Sonic's claim.

Why? It is one thing to say Sonic is town and gambiting. The claim seemed obviously fake and trying to bait Firebringer.

No, I'm not sure. Her play is still town. Still, there are lots of people who are blank spots. Who would be much better targets. Like really, the only reason for this is to avoid a policy lynch that we weren't doing in the first place. Her explanation is fine and natural to me

Who are those "blank spots?"

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I still don't like any of Kaboose's posts. I have a hard time making sense of his Post 275. I don't think I've ever played with someone only as scum and then when they seemed different in a following game, assumed that they are scum for different reasons. It seems more likely he was scum making up reasons to suspect Wisdom and once it was pointed out that it didn't make sense, came up with explanations after the fact. I want to take a glance through his past games to see if he just has a foot-in-mouth type playstyle.

I don't understand why Metal Sonic is being given a pass. Clearly, he is gambiting. A town cop

does not

claim randomly D1 and then townread a player soft-cc'ing him. His outing Firebringer has a clear scum motivation: to test whether Firebringer is an investigative PR so they can choose night kills better and when questioned fall back on the "I was obviously gambiting" explanation. I don't see the town motive to gambit as town here. Firebringer was an unlikely lynch. Worst case, he could just hard-claim his role if he was at L-1 and we'd have gotten plenty of info from the wagon. Best case, players wind up coming around to townreading him based on his play, so a "I outed him so I could get a read on him" explanation doesn't fly with me. I hope if you are town, you have a better one.

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I have a few townreads. Sthar8 and Firebringer are town. With Sthar8, it is mostly his attitude around saying that he'll be conf-town that I find scum are less likely to fake and I've had no issues with his posts so far. I'd like the townread on Metal Sonic explained however as I'm leaning the opposite way.

Firebringer is town for similar reasons. The initial crumb in Post 246 points to an investigative role and makes sense with his response to Metal Sonic claiming cop. Regardless of whether scum have fake-claims, I doubt he'd be able to pull it off so seamlessly.

I have more tentative townreads on ETL and Sekai which haven't solidified. ETL mostly because of her response to the reroll possibility in Post 189. I think scum are more likely to want a fair game and wouldn't want to be unfairly disadvantaged so if she got caught solely because of cheating, a re-roll would be perfect for her. Her response reads more like town who don't think they're disadvantaged by the cheating.

While I disagreed with Sekai's suspicion of Wisdom, it still read slight town. I also like their post on Firebringer being town before he responded to Metal Sonic's claim.

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@ MetalSonic, in your next post clarify whether you are gambiting and if you are, explain the town motive for it. If your claim is true, why are you townreading someone that was soft-cc'ing you and why did you make no mention of Firebringer's investigative soft-claim before yours. I also want a response to my question to you in Post 262. I'm having a hard time following your reads and thoughts. What are your current reads and why?

[Wingback]

@ ETL, can you respond to my question about Kaboose/Fire in Post 262 and elaborate on your reads there.

[Firebringer]

Why are you predicting power roles?

[Polar Vortex]

And Wingback has just spoiled the party:/ I was mentioning his gambit a lot in the hope he'll get NK-ed tonight since I have no read on him. And that's what he's going for anyways
And well, from Sonic's pov who would be a blank spot? Us or the other hydra(well, they are a blank spot for me at least). She's said we're suspicious with no explanation whatsoever.