Mini 1699 - #swag wars: THE empire strikes back (swaggedout)

[notscience]

ugh. I'm not sure where I want to go.

We could go for boon.

I understand nacho's thing about him makinghis alignment obvious later but why not make it obvious now?

pedit-

what do you mean timing ffery

[fferyllt]

I mean he posts right after implosion claims. which makes me think he's been watching.

[RedCoyote]

notscience, explain 815 to us again.

[Empire]

DAY 2, VOTECOUNT 13

implosion (3)

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pieguyn, Nachomamma8, Boonskiies

Nachomamma8 (2)

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Wickedestjr, implosion

notscience (1)

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RedCoyote

Soft-spoken (1)

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Vinkah

RedCoyote (1)

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Soft-spoken

Not Voting (3)

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Tammy, notscience, fferyllt

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch! Deadline is on August 13th at 3AM EST or in (expired on 2015-08-13 03:03:09).

Mod Notes - Wickedestjr is V/LA from the 8th to the 12th.

[RedCoyote]

Nah, I just got home from a BBQ. This caught my eye. I was actually planning on not posting, lol.

[fferyllt]

I'm remembering crumbing vig in the Rage mini normal game, though I don't think I ever pointed back to the crumb. I was the SK.

I made a vig-like NK on night 1.

meh.

[notscience]

How about you read the thread before you act like you have a smoking gun, RC.

Literally every other person in this game knows/could tell it was a reaction test.

[notscience]

Which, hint, is what I told you last time you mentioned it.

But no, cherrypick more.

That is a town thing to do.

[RedCoyote]

Yeah, I'll bet. More like a plan B.

[RedCoyote]

I'm remembering crumbing vig in the Rage mini normal game, though I don't think I ever pointed back to the crumb. I was the SK.

I made a vig-like NK on night 1.

meh.

Would SK shoot Gnomeo?

[implosion]

Why did you wait until day 2 to crumb?

I crumbed near the end of day 1. I think early in the day the thought of crumbing briefly crossed my mind and then when there was multiball speculation I was like "eh, why not."

I did assume that ns was reaction testing incidentally.

It's potentially notable that Nacho was the third spot on both my wagon and the eventual Anen lynch wagon.

[RedCoyote]

It's potentially notable that Nacho was the third spot on both my wagon and the eventual Anen lynch wagon.

Agreed.

[RedCoyote]

Which, hint, is what I told you last time you mentioned it.

FYI, you didn't say that was a reaction test, you said I wasn't reading you, which is a cryptic way of implying that you had soft-claimed prior to that post. In any event, you let it stand. I kind of see how you can twist it into a "reaction test" now after there has been a vig claim, but that's also p convenient.

[pieguyn]

I think my reads at the moment look something like this.

Town: ffery; vinkah; tammy.
Also town, but somewhat less strong: wicked; nacho; cheeto; redcoyote.
Not quite as strong a townread as the previous category but I don't really want to put him in the next category: gnomeo.
Either never was town or not as strong as before: layla; anen; pie; notscience. Although I might be able to be convinced to put pie in a category higher. Maybe.

I've been spiraling into a lurking spree. I do still want an anen lynch. The lack of a counterwagon is just indicative of how indecisive this town is; no one seems to have a lasting scumread that garners significant attention to the point where it becomes a long-lasting wagon. This is further impacted by the lurking question marks of Layla and notscience.

why the fuck would you shoot Gnomeo if you weren't POE'ing him as scum? or did your reads change sometime after that and I just missed it?

[pieguyn]

I'm pretty fucking sure that's an SK shot. in addition to ^that, Gnomeo was (I think?) one of the only people suspecting implo at that point in the game. the point ffery brought up about him shifting along with wherever the momentum is going also makes sense from an SK POV in that he's playing primarily for survival and attempting to float through the game.

I'm half posting in-the-moment half responding to things as I read them, but we're lynching this today.

[fferyllt]

Yeah, I'll bet. More like a plan B.

It did look like a reaction test to me.

[RedCoyote]

Gnomeo was (I think?) one of the only people suspecting implo at that point in the game

If this is true, I'll vote him with you, pie. Going back to read over him in ISO.

[pieguyn]

I'm pretty sure it is. I at least remember implo was Gnomeo's backup scum read after Tammy.

[RedCoyote]

355, 364 and 422 = evidence of Gnomeo suspecting implosion

UNVOTE: notscience; VOTE: implosion

I stand by the fact that Gnomeo was a pretty horrid vig kill (and this is on record from, like, my first post of the day), regardless of what happens here... BUT as an SK kill? Especially from implosion in light of what pie pointed out? I can totally buy that.

[RedCoyote]

how's that for your smoking gun, mr. science?

[fferyllt]

implosion, why did you choose gnomeo for the kill?

[RedCoyote]

implosion, why did you choose gnomeo for the kill?

ffrey, is there something unsettling about the fact that you even had to ask this?

[fferyllt]

Quite.

[implosion]

I was debating between him, layla, notscience and pie, for the most part. I honestly don't remember why I didn't go for pie. I think I went through like 4-5 instances of opening pie's iso, flitting through it, and just feeling meh. It was probably mostly because it seemed like he was getting townreads from others. ns I didn't want to shoot because ffery said she'd be able to read ns better as time went on i think. It eventually came down to layla and gnomeo, and I picked gnomeo because I was hoping layla was going to start posting more since her early posting felt town. I also think I thought gnomeo was more widely suspected. I didn't really trust my own reads so I wanted to shoot someone who was widely suspected; I didn't really see any good choices, but I wanted to kill someone.

Who do you think would have been a better shot? Was I just reading the overall trends of who was being suspected poorly? I was mostly shooting based on what I perceived to be the town's general reads, not my own.

Also: I'm 2-shot (I didn't say this initially because maybe a week ago I had a random idea that I could pretend to be 1-shot if there was a late massclaim, and then save an extra shot for drawing after 3p lylo or something like that, which is a horrible reason yes, but alas). If you do think I'm a serial killer I'm not going to have any freedom to do as I want.

[RedCoyote]

I was mostly shooting based on what I perceived to be the town's general reads, not my own.

have you ever played vig before and is this statement consistent with that?