In post 344, Wingback wrote:When I play a game, I remember the reads I had, which reads were right and which reads were wrong. I watch for the flips throughout the game and after the game ends to reflect on whether I was right or wrong. If a player I was townreading flips scum, I remember that I misread him and he got past me. If I read them correctly, I keep in mind the tells I have for them that were accurate. And vice-versa if a player flips town. I don't understand how you remembered his play and behavior in past games but forgot that he was scum. Normally when players make reads based off of past games, it typically follows a pattern of "I've misread this player" or "I have a method for accurately reading this player and I was accurate in these games." You'd then use what you learned in future games for a hopefully more accurate read this time around.
That's so cool that you do all that. But I don't. I've played enough games with Wisdom to have recollection of his posting style to some degree. I've played with ETL before too and really have no clue how to read them. I don't even know what her alignment was in any of them either. Not without going back and looking. And I wouldn't even know what MY alignment was in any of those games without looking.
I think I remember us being on the same scum team once.
This is such a bullshit thing to pin on me.
this is cool and probably legit, but it doesn't fit with being able to scumread someone over meta. I think it's backpedaling.
In post 441, Kaboose wrote:Hey Wingback, you want my password so you can just type whatever for me and that way you can quit making things up and have them actually be true?
i really like this, actually. i say this shit all the time as town. but he hasn't like, followed up or anything. i don't know what about WB's post he thinks is a lie, and calling someone out for revisionist assertions that can theoretically be disproven with fact checking is pretty empty unless you actually do the fact checking.
In post 481, Firebringer wrote:Polar argument is all on my theory disagreements which is a stupid read.
I disagree with you == scum.
It's like wtf? How?
No, but completly ignoring my points again and again? Complete lack of scumhunting? How do these sound as scummy behaviour.
Fire, why am I and kaboose scummy? Fucking explain something once in this game. Where am I misinterpreting you? Give examples
You are tunneling me, you completely ignore Kaboose screw ups. Rather have me mislynched than your ally right?
You are arguments on me are bad, and completely theory based.
the other one is all badlogic that can be explained by being familiar with a different meta, and antagonism that can be explained by a massive ego. i'll look at whoever's case, but i'm not feeling it rn.
In post 497, sthar8 wrote:EBWOP no i didnt have time to look. But it doesnt matter.
you know what i mean. either he does something tonight, or he dies, or we revisit tomorrow. i'm not in a place where i have a lot of extra fucks to give over things that might not matter. i promise to look at it if i need to, his cop claim was really shit and he should know better.
In post 481, Firebringer wrote:Polar argument is all on my theory disagreements which is a stupid read.
I disagree with you == scum.
It's like wtf? How?
No, but completly ignoring my points again and again? Complete lack of scumhunting? How do these sound as scummy behaviour.
Fire, why am I and kaboose scummy? Fucking explain something once in this game. Where am I misinterpreting you? Give examples
You are tunneling me, you completely ignore Kaboose screw ups. Rather have me mislynched than your ally right?
You are arguments on me are bad, and completely theory based.
You just said you are fine with a random lynch.
That good enough.
I ignored kaboose screwups. Yeah, I was over his ass completly just because I'm ignoring his screwups. Which screwups exactly btw? You still haven't pointed at them while I have done so.
I looked at Micro 501 and his posts seem geared toward scumhunting a lot more than here so I don't think it's just his playstyle. There are a couple of posts here that I thought were townish specifically the part where he says I'm "pinning bullshit on him" so I wanted to see whether how he'd scumhunt on his own. That didn't really pan out.
I'm happy with lynching Kaboose and prefer it over Firebringer. But don't lynch just yet. I want to hear back from Sekai and Metal Sonic.
In post 500, Polar Vortex wrote:Oh, firebringer. What happened to you lynch all liars policy? I've openly admitted I've lied on thread. Where are you going to lynch me?
Why are you insisting on trying to antagonize you? I'll lynch you tomorrow scum.
In post 503, sthar8 wrote:badlogic that can be explained by being familiar with a different meta, and antagonism that can be explained by a massive ego. i.
You've just explained me perfectly in one sentence!:P except the bad logic, think it's working fine this game(yes, I know you probably weren't talking about me, but still)
In post 503, sthar8 wrote:the other one is all badlogic that can be explained by being familiar with a different meta, and antagonism that can be explained by a massive ego. i'll look at whoever's case, but i'm not feeling it rn.
I don't know if I made the post but I meant to make a post touching on the different site meta issue with firebringer.
he wasn't as trolly in the game I just finished with him. I replaced in on day 1 with 4 calendars remaining to nightfall. The different site meta thing was very apparent there. he was all about lynching liars, and people gambiting was anathema to him.
Anyway, he worked through the issues with people lying and gambiting and voted correctly in mylo two consecutive days.
There are some significant differences in his play here. I mentioned the trollyness. The other aspect is that he's picked up more scumreads here than he did on day 1 of that game (or at any point during the game). he was convinced he was confirmed town by day 3 simply because he wasn't involved in the gambit that 3 players played. I feel like his outrage at being scumread here comes from a similar mindset.
In post 513, sekai no ki wrote:he was all about lynching liars, and people gambiting was anathema to him.
i feel that way being familiar with the site meta. I was more referring to the no-lynch thing, which is actually correct if your meta features setups where power roles can qb a game.
Yeah that's a different manifestation of the site meta difference, but his play there was very much influenced by stuff you either don't learn here or you get it beaten out of you after a couple games.
@ Sekai, your posting before you said you'd vote Kaboose seems to imply that you found Metal Sonic the scummiest. When you come around to it, can you list out your reads relative to each other with your reasons for them.
I was hoping MS and I would have a substantive engagement that I could make a better read from, but didn't want to distract from etl's line of questioning.
Mostly I'm sitting here with a dislike for his unpressured day 1 role claim, regardless of his alignment. he's trying to draw the services of a protective role or at least raise the possibility in everyone's minds that he could be protected, which he'd do as any alignment.
I am filled with the joy and confidence that can only come from a town role PM. There's a blight, a gestalten concept of the game that was shattered, and I fear that the player I could neighborize is already dead.
i feel that way being familiar with the site meta. I was more referring to the no-lynch thing, which is actually correct if your meta features setups where power roles can qb a game.