NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Fro99er]

Shinobi is very obviously town too.

The relief in his opening post was real relief after how I made Refraction mafia a shit show with Shin as scum, and Shin's early push on Tex is spot on as well.

[ika]

i will be around to be an asshole and take pagetops though

pedti damn it

[Fro99er]

haha my bad ika

(Red, nos, gray, wake)

red and wake could be, but right now Ozgin is confscum for post 109.

VOTE: Ozgin

[Creede73]

Confscum? That's very extreme. Explain why you're so sure of him being scum?

[Creede73]

That was an accidental question mark.

[Fro99er]

@Nosferatu - how much mafia experience do you have?

[Fro99er]

Confscum? That's very extreme. Explain why you're so sure of him being scum?

Go read 109 and tell me how it's not scummy.

1. The "are we out of RVS yet" is blah. What's the point in asking that (hint: there is no point). It's making conversation to make conversation, and playing dumb.

2. Why would Ozgin be worried about TSO at all if Ozgin was town? Only scum need to be worried.

3. Listing every possible date they are away from the computer is something I see scum do who are very careful about their activity level. They want it known in public well ahead of time when they are gone so they don't get criticized for low activity or lurking.

[Boonskiies]

is someone at L-1?

[SilverWolf]

Like, why even join a Large Normal if all you are going to do is complain about how long it is and say you are only going to post when we can get a speed lynch and otherwise you are not even going to read the game? Why put post after post in this game saying that shit?

Go join a micro game and replace out so someone who isn't going to complain and play anti-town can replace in.

[Salamence20]

Like, why even join a Large Normal if all you are going to do is complain about how long it is and say you are only going to post when we can get a speed lynch and otherwise you are not even going to read the game? Why put post after post in this game saying that shit?

Go join a micro game and replace out so someone who isn't going to complain and play anti-town can replace in.

So you personally think that 30 pages of information isnt enough to work with and want to run more pages of "information" instead of flipping something?

I mean, fucking lynch me if it means you can anaylize the flips tomorrow and get scum.

[Nosferatu]

@Nosferatu - how much mafia experience do you have?

This is my first game on this site, so you won't find anything to use as a base for my meta.

I have played several games on the osu forums for Mafia under the name Ace Timing, I have two games as town and one recently finished as scum. I have played mafia irl on several occasions.

[Creede73]

Confscum? That's very extreme. Explain why you're so sure of him being scum?

Go read 109 and tell me how it's not scummy.

1. The "are we out of RVS yet" is blah. What's the point in asking that (hint: there is no point). It's making conversation to make conversation, and playing dumb.

2. Why would Ozgin be worried about TSO at all if Ozgin was town? Only scum need to be worried.

3. Listing every possible date they are away from the computer is something I see scum do who are very careful about their activity level. They want it known in public well ahead of time when they are gone so they don't get criticized for low activity or lurking.

You are more scum for saying he's confscum than he is for that post. Also, he's telling us the dates he'll be gone ahead of time. That means if he lurks any other day, that'll be suspicious.

[SilverWolf]

Like, why even join a Large Normal if all you are going to do is complain about how long it is and say you are only going to post when we can get a speed lynch and otherwise you are not even going to read the game? Why put post after post in this game saying that shit?

Go join a micro game and replace out so someone who isn't going to complain and play anti-town can replace in.

So you personally think that 30 pages of information isnt enough to work with and want to run more pages of "information" instead of flipping something?

I mean, fucking lynch me if it means you can anaylize the flips tomorrow and get scum.

Nope, it isn't the number of pages. It's what people say. I don't have shit for a read on Kop cuz he's a lurksack that's done nothing. I don't have much of a read on Frogger because he's still catching up. I've asked mahonster to post more. Gray says he's going to post more. I have no read on Boon but I know enough not to expect one one D1. We have 21 people in this game and I'd like to not end D1 until they've all gotten to speak.

Yeah, we can lynch you and what will that tell us? Who was pushing you? Not if you are asking to be lynched. Who voted you and why? Not if you are asking to be lynched. It tells us nothing.

Anyway, I'm not getting bogged down in theory talk.

[Fro99er]

@Nosferatu - how much mafia experience do you have?

This is my first game on this site, so you won't find anything to use as a base for my meta.

I wasn't asking for meta purposes.

[Fro99er]

You are more scum for saying he's confscum than he is for that post. Also, he's telling us the dates he'll be gone ahead of time. That means if he lurks any other day, that'll be suspicious.

So I'm scum for calling someone hyper-aware of their own availability?

Ok...


(Also, did you question Lapsa when he called someone confscum in post 38?...no you didn't. In fact, you haven't even mentioned Lapsa all game...so why are you applying this confscum point selectively?)

[Fro99er]

You also didn't even address my points 1 and 2. Why did you ignore those two points and only choose to comment on the activity point?

[Creede73]

Because your reasoning is so unlike mine, that I have no response at all to 1 and 2. I didn't question lapsa because there were already people asking him/her questions.

And, idk if you are a productive person, but a lot of people are aware of their schedule.

[Quaroath]

So I can tell I can't take a single day off in this game. 13 pages in 48 hours. oof.

Quaroath

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The vote on Grayfoxx, 'not engaging,' thoughts on ika's same?

On ika not engaging? I'm not really sure what you are asking if that's not what you mean. I think ika is being his normal obnoxious and annoying town self. He's posting a lot and the tone/vibe is the same as I'm used to when I've seen him running around as a rage hammer townie

If I have more posts than you, it likely means I'm speaking my mind more than you're speaking yours.

The lines of communication are entirely open - for example, I'm happy to discuss a wide range of subjects, like why Grey is a great vote. If you don't want to communicate, it isn't my fault.

Or you post in four posts what he does in 1. Okay, that's not game relevant, but lets not having genital measuring contests over post numbers please.

Nos or grey needs to die after my read through, but I haven't been able to sit down and read the last 13 pages in depth and really think about it. What do I need to know?

[Lapsa]

osu <3

[Nosferatu]

@Nosferatu - how much mafia experience do you have?

This is my first game on this site, so you won't find anything to use as a base for my meta.

I wasn't asking for meta purposes.

In that case this is my fourth game of forum mafia

[Kop]

Confscum? That's very extreme. Explain why you're so sure of him being scum?

Go read 109 and tell me how it's not scummy.

1. The "are we out of RVS yet" is blah. What's the point in asking that (hint: there is no point). It's making conversation to make conversation, and playing dumb.

2. Why would Ozgin be worried about TSO at all if Ozgin was town? Only scum need to be worried.

3. Listing every possible date they are away from the computer is something I see scum do who are very careful about their activity level. They want it known in public well ahead of time when they are gone so they don't get criticized for low activity or lurking.

That doesn't alone say that he is confscum, if that was confscum, he'd be lynched right now. This is your opinion, not stated facts.

Ozgin stated his reasons why he is worried about TSO, that alone doesn't state that Ozgin is scum, it's stating to everyone that TSO can be a player that could pick out thought out reasons to why he has pushed somebody to be lynched, and we won't look deeper into it because majority were in agreement with it. So in basic terms, TSO finds a fault big enough to convince the lynch, nobody looks further into it and if he is scum, he's bought a lynch whilst not looking bad in the process.

Listing the dates, away man, is that something you are going to try pin that on him? I'd rather someone say when they won't be on, rather than just slithering into the back ground and hope nobody notices, do you honestly believe that scum would go as far as advertising they won't be here on such and such a date? What does it buy for them? They could easily just fall out of view in these size games because focus could very well be on something else and nobody would think any different if that person didn't post at all. The only time that people notice, is if they read back and the person hasn't posted in days is to when focus turns to them.

[Fro99er]

So I can tell I can't take a single day off in this game. 13 pages in 48 hours. oof.

That's not what I said at all, and you know it.

I said he was hyper aware of his activity levels and made sure to say so in public in advance.

That's shit I do as scum so that people don't start scum reading me for being away.

He could just tell the mod he's V/LA as they come up, like most people do.

[Fro99er]

Ah shit. I misread you. My bad.

[Fro99er]

That doesn't alone say that he is confscum, if that was confscum, he'd be lynched right now. This is your opinion, not stated facts.

You know I'm not actually serious about confscum right. You should be able to tell from context I'm using it as just a saying in this case to say...hey I'm highly suspicious of him!

[Fro99er]

Listing the dates, away man, is that something you are going to try pin that on him? I'd rather someone say when they won't be on, rather than just slithering into the back ground

I would rather so too. My point isn't he'll be away.

My point is he listed it all out well in advance when most people just tell the mod right before they go on V/LA.

If Ozgin has done this before as town I'll feel better.