Mini 1694 -- Zodiac Mafia II (Game Over)

startfromtheheart · Post Post #49 (isolation #0) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:41 pm

In post 14, Aronis wrote:Hey guys.

VOTE: startfromtheheart

Hey, cowboys fan is voting me! Ouch. That hurts.

*ahem*
Roger that.

Also, far and I tend to get along well.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #53 (isolation #1) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:48 pm

'Twas said in jest.

Unvote

Mutual unvoting invites comments!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #54 (isolation #2) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:55 pm

In post 18, KayP wrote:If mafia choose the daykill then won't they have to post it in the thread like in the first one of these? I skimmed through it a bit in preparation.

In post 19, KayP wrote:Then they'd just get called out...and killed immediately... seems really dumb of them!

Sensible.

In post 23, Mainez wrote:also, i've always wanted to do this. so let me revert to RVS. because i really really really want to do this:

VOTE: Metal Sonic

hehehehehehe

That laugh looks auto-dialed. He he he.

In post 29, Marquis wrote:thanks
i try

thanks for transferring your knowledge of the mechanics to the thread!
Let me reimburse the face value of your mechanical knowledge!

With a trademark vote from Startfromtheheart INC:

VOTE: Marquis

startfromtheheart · Post Post #56 (isolation #3) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:09 pm

Ok on my cellular it says that the unfortunate and fortunate are randomized, so chance of daykill being sent out is like 20% ish.

In response to RVS questions:

(1) dunno, I'm going to read up about my sign

(2) not your momma's meta is hard to distinguish as factional play from both sides is distinguished in a scholarly way.

(3) dunno Optimal choice. Depends on what is received whether to share the gift.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #57 (isolation #4) » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:10 pm

Edit: 10%, sorry, for fortunate.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #77 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:11 am

Ricastle, nice reaction test.

That's All Fine and Dandy!

In post 70, Marquis wrote:maybe i'm just old now but i'm not getting why lane would question a townread on me like that when the reasoning was already there, and then when spelled out for him without further meaningful elaboration, simply say "ok"

i mean i don't really get how lane just dropped it at that. there's so much more that could have been asked or discussed had he actually cared about it besides a one-off "talking" point

lane seems unfiltered with glitz and glamour, kinda playstyle related probs

startfromtheheart · Post Post #81 (isolation #6) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:23 am

In post 80, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 68, lane0168 wrote:
In post 66, Ricastle wrote:Okay...? Why?

I'd like metal to take a stab at this before farside if that's ok with farside.

because why me = fry me

fry?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #84 (isolation #7) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:09 am

Does scum even have to announce a daykill in thread for it to go through? Anyways, might as well have everyone post a daykill on a different player

daykill: farside

In post 24, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 22, Mainez wrote:can you explain how it can be used as a vengekill?

"You're at L-1 scum, please claim."

"Fuck the police.

Daykill: Mainez
"

In post 83, lane0168 wrote:
In post 62, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 61, Ricastle wrote:VOTE: startfromtheheart

I think it's pretty obvious how to start this. We'll do popcorn for dayvigs and see who has one. If nobody does, Far is confscum. If somebody does, it's a scum lynch and Far is conftown. That sound good?

There was some weird rule the last Zodiac where you could post "Daykill: X" in thread and then PM RC privately so it wouldn't count.

Is the rule a secret rule that only the person who gets the daykill knows? Cause I don't see it...

daykill:startfromtheheart

@mod: is there a rule that says you can submit a daykill via thread and repeal it via pm?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #85 (isolation #8) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:10 am

I mean, I would think scum would just send it via PM if that's possible lol

startfromtheheart · Post Post #142 (isolation #9) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:22 pm

In post 109, lane0168 wrote:Nacho>mainez
lane>start
start>farside
elusive>marquis
kayp>marquis
ricastle>metal
tammy>nacho
mainez>elusive

Metal sonic - lane
Aronis - elusive

startfromtheheart · Post Post #143 (isolation #10) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:22 pm

In post 133, RedCoyote wrote:Yes, if a person has a daykill, it must be made publicly.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #144 (isolation #11) » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:24 pm

Only farside and Marquis haven't done a 'daykill' yet

startfromtheheart · Post Post #187 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:14 am

Waiting for mod to come in and acknowledge a daykill or lack of one

startfromtheheart · Post Post #188 (isolation #13) » Thu Jul 02, 2015 11:15 am

Cover your ears
Assuage your fears
The time is nears
My old peers

startfromtheheart · Post Post #213 (isolation #14) » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:10 pm

Heheheheheheehehe

VOTE: Nachomamma

^Let's talk about him

startfromtheheart · Post Post #253 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:46 am

In post 251, Nachomamma8 wrote:marquis if that was a troll it was a pretty solid one
if it wasn't then bad marquis

Hi I'm prod dodging, scrub!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #255 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:47 am

In post 250, Tammy wrote:So which scum games did you look at?

Zero!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #257 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:49 am

I have played with you! Been there, done that. You're America's favorite pastime, like a baseball game!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #259 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:50 am

In post 254, Tammy wrote:
In post 233, Ricastle wrote:Tammy, reason for the vote on start?

Part gut, something feels off about his posts, and part something else I'm holding onto as I want to see if anyone else sees what I see.

The answer is in the riddle if you see through the corner of the lens.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #261 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:52 am

Figure it out yourself!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #267 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:57 am

You can't play dumb! Look under your name! What is it that I spy?

If you guys think you've caught Tammy through meta, more power to you!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #269 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:00 am

I wish I could borrow the powers of a woman's intuition for one day...

Anyone who has that gift, send it this way...

Later!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #281 (isolation #22) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:15 am

In post 280, Aronis wrote:sorry, I'm town. I can't scumslip.

Heartbreaking, truly!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #284 (isolation #23) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:22 am

Amusement is reason for this game to pick up! It has been a crawl!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #289 (isolation #24) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:38 am

Tammy's even-keeled so far.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #291 (isolation #25) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:40 am

In post 275, Aronis wrote:Pagetop!

We should talk! Although -
Fuel tank is a little empty after that 6 hour marathon last night. Probably same for you!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #330 (isolation #26) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:26 pm

In post 327, Aronis wrote:
In post 324, Metal Sonic wrote:Good exchange. Alignment indicative.

VOTE: ricastle

I also think that nacho could be scum.

Startfromtheheart can give bert a run for his money. Or is he a Bert alt?

Yeah, he's Bert's alt.

Yup! I played against nacho on this account two years ago, but it has been dormant for the past year

Startfromtheheart has been a public alt ever since it was born in 2013. It made sense for this game given its born date aka join the world date. Zodiac game and all.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #332 (isolation #27) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:32 pm

Marathon weekend's a big reason why the game is slow right now.

Aronis and I played a game last night that went from 10 PM to 4:30 AM... No breaks as we got into the final 3.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #361 (isolation #28) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:19 pm

In post 350, Metal Sonic wrote:yeah Nero is typically like that

He still owes me one sheep when I call him to arms

I miss Nero! I haven't played with him in 2 years.

What are your thoughts on Nacho Mamma?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #365 (isolation #29) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:39 pm

Also, yeah mafia is a pretty strong form of entertainment for me, like sports and music. the last two are more like being a spectator. I get burned out with all three though. for some it's art, writing, etc.

In post 295, Nachomamma8 wrote:On an irrelevant note, I'm really digging the animal metaphors.

GROOT

VOTE: Metal

Don't remember who I was voting earlier, but I'm feeling this vote.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #366 (isolation #30) » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:40 pm

GROOT do you like my vote

startfromtheheart · Post Post #420 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:38 am

You're wrong about me, fool!

@nacho: Prod dodge yada yada, cheeky scrub!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #421 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:38 am

<33333

startfromtheheart · Post Post #423 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:39 am

In post 422, lane0168 wrote:I'm glad you can see that elusive's meta read is terrible. How does that, or anything else shes done make her the towniest person in few game?

I think she's being scumread for resting bitchy face! Which isn't a scumtell!

<3333 elusive

startfromtheheart · Post Post #430 (isolation #34) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:45 am

In post 426, Nachomamma8 wrote:Actually #419 felt sort of awkward :/

Guys once he said "awkward," the ambiance changed.

Also, I like Aronis so far!

In post 403, Mainez wrote:aronis, i'm not seeing your case on elusive at all. in fact, your ISO kind of stinks.

So does yours! Wanna share and compare our notes??

startfromtheheart · Post Post #432 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:49 am

In post 427, Tammy wrote:
In post 426, Nachomamma8 wrote:Actually #419 felt sort of awkward :/

Please don't start with me.

<3333

Ok I'm going to resist the temptation to log on here on my phone until I'm out of shit posting mood lol! Oh wait I have been doing that all game long... D:

startfromtheheart · Post Post #439 (isolation #36) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:25 pm

I'm practicing shitposting abstinence hold on let me clear my throat

Grumble grumble

I glossed over the opposite empowered whatever upon replacing in pregame! I thought the chance of there being day kill was 1/10 cos 10 unfortunate choices! That was be4 I saw the Opposite and read what it meant.

It looked like people were saying that farside is likely town cos of what she received and revealed, and so then therefore the scum got the unfortunate and therefore had a 1/10 chance of getting a day kill. Because I didn't understand why people were saying scum likely chose daykill,I thought instinctively that ricastle was doing a reaction test because it seemed bold and unintelligible what she was suggesting without knowing more a/b the game

Grumble grumble serious post grumble ahem

startfromtheheart · Post Post #442 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:38 pm

In post 440, Tammy wrote:
In post 308, elusive wrote:Ric, I'm not going to have a meltdown and I'm town as heck. Also trying to provoke players into meltdowns while seemingly fun also encourages them to keep doing it rather then channeling emotions in more positive fluff GIF and music based ways.

No more meltdowns for me. I can't stop being sassy but am trying to keep on the right side of that line as well.

Which can be difficult.

I could have written this post.

I agree.

To be frank, Elusive Tammy as a hydra name has a good ring to it.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #452 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:14 pm

In post 412, Aronis wrote:Next she begins insulting people, which while it's not necessarily scummy and some players just have a reputation for it, I feel like in this case it kind of is, because of the setting. Basically she insults people which 1. makes some people not want to confront her. Re: KayP's replace out. And 2. She starts calling every question dumb and telling people to read what she wrote, etc. Which is an excellent way to avoid answering things.

Oddly, I recall replacing into Greater Idea with farside and elusive and seeing in my catch-up that someone voiced meta-based suspicion of elusive for being "too pleasant"

In post 396, Marquis wrote:blasted hell!!!!!!

metal sonic please don't be scum
not like this

What worries you about metal?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #498 (isolation #39) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:18 am

Hodgepodge of prod dodgessssssss

In post 488, Nachomamma8 wrote:Hi Tammy!

GROOT! 4 days left! AHHHH! Let's all have a group re-read and convince GROOT to!

In post 489, Tammy wrote:I'm tired but elusive needs to come back and
nacho
GROOT needs to do something!

FTFY! GROOT will now be compelled to grace OUR presence!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #499 (isolation #40) » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:23 am

Spoiler: applause applause, yes yes, time for Tammy and GROOT to dance!

On a serious note, I'm going to step away for a few hours until I can gather myself and get into mafia mood! Saw that it had bee 56 hours since my last post and FREAKED out!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #581 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:23 am

VOTE: nachomamma8

startfromtheheart · Post Post #655 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:33 am

In post 639, Nachomamma8 wrote:Holy shit we have a day left.

Vote: Metal Sonic

yeah whatever

VOTE: metal sonic
VOTE: metal sonic
VOTE: metal sonic

startfromtheheart · Post Post #659 (isolation #43) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:36 am

GROOT HAS VOTED FOR METAL SONIC
in one sense, i like it! hehehe

AGHHHH

startfromtheheart · Post Post #693 (isolation #44) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:30 pm

In post 689, Metal Sonic wrote:I am gut scumreading him

Mainly I just want to start a cw, I don't have any strong scum reads right now @_@

Hint: start one on me for giggles

startfromtheheart · Post Post #696 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:41 pm

In post 694, Tammy wrote:
In post 655, startfromtheheart wrote:
In post 639, Nachomamma8 wrote:Holy shit we have a day left.

Vote: Metal Sonic

yeah whatever

VOTE: metal sonic
VOTE: metal sonic
VOTE: metal sonic

Bert Bert why are you voting metal sonic now after voting nacho?

Feeling all the feels

startfromtheheart · Post Post #759 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:57 pm

St Constantine has been accosted! Ahh!!!

VOTE: St Constantine

startfromtheheart · Post Post #800 (isolation #47) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:08 am

In post 797, Tammy wrote:Little concerned about Bert sheeting nacho without any paranoia there though.

don't care about my nacho read at this point as I don't find his play readable right now, deadline almost hit yesterday (few hours away) until the last minute sudden Marquis retirement/quitting, and it's about to hit today. a wagon started by him (on a wagon that already has a few people) is likelier to happen than any other wagon at this point, including the newly minted ones.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #802 (isolation #48) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:11 am

In post 799, Tammy wrote:It's cute how laughably wrong you are.

You should put up another meta case about it! Or you know ACTUALLY READ ENOUGH GAMES TO HAVE A CLUE.

Elusive's last post (not the early D1 ones) calling you scum didn't have anything to do with your meta, though.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #806 (isolation #49) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:58 am

GROOT is right about there being 6 votes and 6 hours to go! WOW!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #808 (isolation #50) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:03 am

In post 807, Tammy wrote:I'm still concerned about Nacho, who needs to stop feeling so flat.

GROOT

flat as a pancake
as flat as a board
as flat as a stale beer

Let's troll GROOT

startfromtheheart · Post Post #811 (isolation #51) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:07 am

GROOT really does seem to be on cruise control though, and Day 1 in this game obviously isn't important enough of a priority for him regardless of his alignment!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #813 (isolation #52) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:09 am

Night Fever please or a waltz

startfromtheheart · Post Post #816 (isolation #53) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:12 am

unvote

GROOT's right-hand man demands (DEMANDS) you not hammer until your conversation with Nacho. *grin*

p-edit: I'm up for those too

startfromtheheart · Post Post #823 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:19 am

In post 822, Nachomamma8 wrote:you realize we already have all the votes we need right

GROOT realizes people are throwing shade at GROOT, right

startfromtheheart · Post Post #824 (isolation #55) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:21 am

Hermit, claim please.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #827 (isolation #56) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:22 am

In post 826, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 823, startfromtheheart wrote:
In post 822, Nachomamma8 wrote:you realize we already have all the votes we need right

GROOT realizes people are throwing shade at GROOT, right

People?

Your prisoners

startfromtheheart · Post Post #839 (isolation #57) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:28 am

Dead people in mafia become pixie dust. Pixie dust isn't capable of claiming. It has been proven.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #845 (isolation #58) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:36 am

In post 842, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Good story; Don't care.

I can't remember if this is the game where I said this, but scum are always drawn to my wagon. The primary advantage I have over other players is that I am a serious scum magnet. It isn't even funny how many scum I've caught this way over my career.

Which scum have you caught in this game?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #846 (isolation #59) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:37 am

In post 843, Ricastle wrote:SPOTS FOR THE NACHO WAGON NOW 50% OFF!!!! LAST MINUTE DEAL!!!! PLACE YOUR VOTE WHILE SPOTS REMAIN

I don't know the original price. I'll assume this is Target and so I'll wait 2 weeks for spots to become 70% off.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #935 (isolation #60) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:57 am

GROOT is lightefforting

startfromtheheart · Post Post #938 (isolation #61) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:00 am

mainez so far is like a mix of droog and a metal sonic riding his motorcycle

startfromtheheart · Post Post #939 (isolation #62) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:02 am

In post 937, Ricastle wrote:
In post 935, startfromtheheart wrote:GROOT is lightefforting
Vote him then...we don't have time for deliberation.

I'll vote when someone actually reaches L-1. My excuse until then is I'm earnestly trying out my New York City accent.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #943 (isolation #63) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:15 am

grabbed a bite. I'm only needed to

startfromtheheart · Post Post #946 (isolation #64) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:18 am

VOTE: Mainez

startfromtheheart · Post Post #963 (isolation #65) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:18 am

I haven't been town in a game with Nacho in a while (like one year plus, only recent completed ones were scumgames - Quickness last summer and Popcorn this summer), but yeah I'd rather leave him be for Day 1. I'd like to think he'd do the same in a game with me unless he were really sure I was scum.

startfromtheheart · Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:48 pm

In post 867, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:You guys are dumb as bricks. Did you all completely ignore me when I said I am a scum magnet? Actually read the events leading up to my L-1. If there aren't scum attached to me I'll be damned.

Okay, serious Christian right here showing all his cards. If I am not town, then may I no longer be a christian, forced into damnation for a 1000 years, with no food, water, or shelter.

In post 868, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Tammy, you are so being played right now. That MOFO is stretching his influence over you. The Tammy I know and love ain't no bitch, so why are you hoeing out for Nacho? The last thing you want is to be pushed into the scum block, because if Nacho is scum, then your head will be on the chopping block next.

In post 864, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Lol, I hate playing with dumbasses. As I said, I am 100% vanilla town. My lynch wont be informative at all, and I'm an easy target late game anyways, so you might as well absolve your worries and lynch nachomama8

In post 921, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:I am sick of this. Nacho is emasculating the game in order to save his hide. I see through the BS, this isn't scum hunting, but survivalism. Like, I am actually glad he is trying to make a case on KayP, but it is really weak and that just proves to me that he isn't concerned with catching scum. The game ends in a couple of hours, pls consolidate on a lynch guys. Right now you can either go after me, or you can go after Nacho, who right now appears to be post spamming in order to cover up his old scum slips.

In post 988, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:I already swore myself to eternal damnation if I were scum. It was my ultimate trump card

What the phok?

startfromtheheart · Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:52 pm

5 mainez
4 nacho
3 saint

It's a no lynch I guess. See you day 2 as usual. I will be alive for sure!

startfromtheheart · Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:56 pm

In post 1023, Tammy wrote:Have I ever told any of you how much I hate the day one lynch? I wish I could just sleep through every one of them.

I wish it were Perpetual LYLO. Keeps everyone including myself locked in.

startfromtheheart · Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:59 pm

VOTE: hermit

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1072 (isolation #70) » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:03 pm

VOTE: mainez

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1083 (isolation #71) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:40 am

I got a msg saying I received a bad fortune. That is all...

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1085 (isolation #72) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 4:44 am

I didn't get to choose anything. I just logged in and saw that message

startfromtheheart · Sun Jul 19, 2015 11:33 am

use your moral compass, bud

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1116 (isolation #74) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:47 pm

In post 1098, Nachomamma8 wrote:I again don't really know where I want to go.

Ricastle, why are you voting me again?

Look main you ended yesterday tellin peeps to vote mainz
That's what's up?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1117 (isolation #75) » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:53 pm

VOTE: Mainez

ITS ALL GOOD MAINE

Ain't particularly fond of the current wagons.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1152 (isolation #76) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:18 pm

In post 1150, Nachomamma8 wrote:I would like
far side
nacho to be around a lot more; I'm not reading her as town based on play and that makes me uncomfortable but it seems like she simply hasn't had much time lately so :/

Spoiler: @refresher 4 faux groot things

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1154 (isolation #77) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:22 pm

VOTE: nacho

it is day 2, time to throw shade at faux groot and make him do un-faux things. day 1 reprieve is over!

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1165 (isolation #78) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:25 pm

In post 1137, Ricastle wrote:
In post 1094, elusive wrote:The OMGUS is strong in this game

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1166 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:15 pm

In post 1060, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Nachomamma8

Sonic, you failed me.

In post 1063, Nachomamma8 wrote:Come kill me again. Constance won't be mislynched if he lives past today. I could be.

In post 1065, Nachomamma8 wrote:2 minutes. Vote me.

What was up with this? And the lack of self-confidence?

It seems like you're a combination of bored with this game and busy/overloaded/overwhelmed/rushed.
Your patterns for day 1 and day 2 are similar.
(1) coast and not be very open, then (2) show up with a burst when wagon on you starts picking up (in addition, when deadline is right around the corner, in the case of D1)

An example: #1098 start of D2: "I don't know where I want to go." Then, see your last few posts.

The pattern is null...even if Itd is all too familiar from 2013 (Empire's 169, end of d1 wagon scramble. 1547 wicked, end of day showing up).

But the targeted wagons at the end of D1 - it didn't seem like you actually Believed in them (like 169's Dart wagons D1 including one on buddy SSK).

doesn't paint a believable picture - that's pretty much the main selling point

/mobile

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1167 (isolation #80) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:24 pm

I'll unvote so as to prevent a hammer for a day or two, tops.

unvote

I could have just voted you yesterday and made it L-1 with a few hours to spare, but I didn't

Why did you go from "willing to wagon Aronis D1" to "meh he's a crapshoot, not sure if I wanna wagon him (near deadline comment D1)" to now "i would put him as town if feeling generous today (d2)"? And how come when Tammy or someone asked you about your thoughts about Aronis from an old past game (one I'm not familiar with), you didn't respond?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1168 (isolation #81) » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:50 pm

Nacho, comments on massive? I knew when KayP replaced out that it was going to be called a town-ish replace out. Scum reading Far because of the same reasons that you're not being townread, I see

Spoiler: nacho's responses to ricastle

In post 917, Nachomamma8 wrote:Additionally, what is pseudo-pushing supposed to be?

In post 918, Nachomamma8 wrote:Oh, I found something that looked vaguely scummy and pointed it out?

It's scummy to scumhunt when people are voting you for terrible reasons, Nacho, stop!!

In post 919, Nachomamma8 wrote:Actually, two questions:

1) Doesnt this look like KayP trying to use elusive's abrasiveness and dismissiveness (the two things she didn't like) to her advantage?

In post 335, KayP wrote:VOTE: elusive

I dislike the way you're trying to poke at me and throw poo at me.

1. I post a catch up post in which I illustrate what stuck out to me were my reads on Tammy and farside as town. I also said I found Metal Sonic's vote on Tammy suspicious.
2. I am specifically asked by lane on what I thought about him and elusive. I state that I didn't have much of a read on them and that I didn't remember any of elusive's posts that stuck out to me and that I had skimmed them.
3. elusive votes me, STATING the reason is to try and get a reaction and get me to "provide content".
4. I ask elusive what questions he has and what type of content he'd like from me.
5. elusive asks why I can't read the game and comment on what stands out to me. That is
exactly
what I did in #1.

Elusive's push on me isn't genuine. First off, if you're going to vote someone to pressure them into providing content, why would you
announce
that you're doing that? Second off, elusive isn't actually interested in content from me... he's pretending to be interested. If he was actually interested, then he would have known that I already made a post showing what stood out to me on my catch up had he read my posts... or, if he hadn't read the post, then he would've come back with an actual question/narrower frame of reference for his continued questioning of me. He didn't -- he just launched into a bunch of attacks against me (talking down to me as a newbie and implying I'm hungover) that had nothing to do with the game.

2) The reasons she replaced out were mostly due to elusive being a duck to her after the pronoun mistake. You really think that's alignment indicative?

In post 930, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 929, Ricastle wrote:I would be amazed if anybody still has a townread on Nacho after this.

Pedit: That is a pseudo-push. Analysis that surmounts to "Oh they look scum but also look town" is a complete fucking waste of time and serves purely as a distraction to stall your lynch and drive us into a NL.

You will be amazed how many people have the reading comprehension you are currently lacking.

Analysis like that is my opinion. Sorry if it's a waste of time, it's the observations I have and I'm not sure what to do except for present them so I can talk them out with others.

Also, intent to hammer when Nacho Mamma hits L-1.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1180 (isolation #82) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:12 am

I said that was a pattern and referenced old games. Ever since you became primarily phone/tablet poster, you lead last minute wagons, lurk, and often are busy such that you put priorities regardless of alignment above those old games until it's near deadline and/or you're almost dead. That explains the lurking.

I said the pushing on you today is for you not seeming to believe in your wagons, not because of the same old pattern.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1182 (isolation #83) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:14 am

I could have swung and taken you out on D1 when the numbers were there. If you think I'm scum, why did I resist your wagon?

If your answer is anything other than sentimental reasons, I want to hear it.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1184 (isolation #84) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:17 am

In post 1181, Nachomamma8 wrote:Am I supposed to fake it until I make it? Or do you think it's unreasonable for me not to have scum reads?

It's unreasonable especially in a smallish game compared to the larges in the past you can sort things out in and make a big impact in. This is a piece of cake for someone with your skill level. Not as easy as a micro, but much morecmanageable than a large.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1185 (isolation #85) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:17 am

In post 1183, Nachomamma8 wrote:What time would you have voted me specifically?

Lynch -2 at one point, I'll quote it later. On a computer There were five on you at that particular moment.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1186 (isolation #86) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:21 am

In post 950, RedCoyote wrote:
Cancer (June 21 - July 22)

Stereotype
: The Crab is moody and hyper-sensitive -- why do they have to take everything so personally?

Source
: Ruled by the ever-changing Moon, Cancer is here to flow with the tides. The emotional realm is often misunderstood and undervalued, but the Crab is charged with the important job of feeling it all -- the highs, lows and everything in-between. Just as the Moon visibly changes every day, Cancer's emotions follow this same cycle. It's true that they can sometimes get stuck in wallowing, but they need to be feeling deeply -- so pass the tissues and accept their waves of emotion -- it's sure to change soon!

Vote Count 1 - 15

St Constantine the Hermit (4) ( farside22 - Metal Sonic - elusive -
Nachomamma8
-
startfromtheheart
- Mainez -
Tammy
)
Mainez (4) (
Aronis
- Nachomamma8 - massive - startfromtheheart - Tammy)
Nachomamma8 (4) ( Aronis - Ricastle - lane0168 - St Constantine the Hermit)

elusive (0) (
massive
)

lane0168 (0) (
Ricastle
-
St Constantine the Hermit
)

Ricastle (0) (
St Constantine the Hermit
-
lane0168
)

Aronis (0) (
Mainez
)

Metal Sonic (0) (
startfromtheheart
)

massive (0) (
Nachomamma8
)

Not Voting (0) (
Tammy
-
startfromtheheart
-
Nachomamma8
-
Tammy
)

With twelve alive, it takes seven to lynch.
Current Deadline:
(expired on 2015-07-15 18:05:00)

In post 968, Metal Sonic wrote:VOTE: nachomamma

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1188 (isolation #87) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:28 am

In post 1060, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Nachomamma8

Sonic, you failed me.

This was with 4 minutes left. It was clear that Tammy and I were going to not vote you. The numbers were not there. On anyone at that point. Even the Mainez wagon was too late and without necessary numbers. Look at the time stamp. Xx:05 deadline. This post xx:01

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1194 (isolation #88) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:50 am

The same reason you just said you were happy to flash wagon SSK in that 169? In other words, not alignment indicative.

Also, Tammy is way too waffly sir waffles worthington or pleasant for the threat of her pushing me to scare me as much as others regardless of my alignment. Death tunnel players are most intimidating because they're so loud about ramming it down

While not an example of death tunneling at all, elusive is probably the scariest player in the game. Massive for instance is a bit soft spoken or so it seems from an old game I nodded, and while logical isn't as intimidating. Farside and ricastle are more scary than you at this point, actually with his vocal they have the potential to be or have been

Mobile

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1196 (isolation #89) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:52 am

Why do you think it's 2 scum??? 2:10??

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1199 (isolation #90) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:53 am

That's fair, as muffin and generic could hold their own. Still it was unnecessary and you had all the leverage

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1201 (isolation #91) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:55 am

In post 1197, Nachomamma8 wrote:I think Ricastle's scum as shit, actually.
I don't think anything Ricastle's been pushing makes any sense at all and I can only allow him passes for genuine tone for so long.

If ricastle is actually scum, he/she and Farside would make sense together the way they've remained distant from each other. Unless I'm confusing things.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1204 (isolation #92) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:01 am

To force a no lynch? I'll give you credit for the hermit wagon. That was the only time when I was gone, and coincidentally the only time I had a chance to hammer anyone at any point

Did you back down, or did the wagon just not pick up enough votes in time?

I may be wrong but two in the elusive/Farside/ricastle went at it with "why aren't you interacting me, and yet you accuse me of doing nothing" or something like that. Then response was "it's not my job to interact with you, you should bring your own things up." Nothing concrete, but it was really Awkward. We were all in the same old game not long ago so it's very weird to see the lack of camaraderie between those three/two

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1207 (isolation #93) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:05 am

In post 601, massive wrote:Quickreads:
More likely town: farside, Aronis
Possibly town and willing to take a flyer: Tammy
Possibly town but this is gonna be a long game: elusive
Fluffing around the middle: start, Nacho, mainez, marquis, Metal Sonic
More likely scum: Lane, Ricastle

As you can see, I'm on page 18, about up to my entry in the game.

Is there something wrong with massive's posts? Is it for sidelining today and yesterday?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1209 (isolation #94) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:08 am

Ricastle could be just being loud and disagreeable to stick up for his vote easy and avoid having to do more. But also could easily just be bored regardless of alignment

Or he believes you are scum and doesn't care how good the case is as long as the push itself is strong on the outside

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1210 (isolation #95) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:11 am

In post 1198, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1196, startfromtheheart wrote:Why do you think it's 2 scum??? 2:10??

Last Zodiac Mafia had 2 scum and 12 players.

! Did people actually think that was balanced?

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1214 (isolation #96) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:36 am

I actually also think that if I am lynched, it won't be because of your pressure (or Tammy's), it will be because I'm not doing enough or I'm looking scummy (maybe both). And that is enough to get lynched without mother hen taking me out to the shed. I don't know that I'd be motivated to be posting much today if you were not the one being wagoned.

Well, that was confusing because you were suggesting a far/start/massive team which is three people.

In post 1211, Nachomamma8 wrote:But he believes in every vote like it's the best vote he's ever made and the only vote acceptable in the game, which seems pretty strange (no person alive has an unnatural confidence like that). He also has those beliefs despite not being very engaged, and he has them for really dumb reasons.

this seems to contradict the "genuine tone" you say he/she has. it's possible to have a genuine tone and then all of the above (unnatural confidence, reasons that make no sense)?

In post 1197, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't think anything Ricastle's been pushing makes any sense at all and I can only allow him passes for genuine tone for so long.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1217 (isolation #97) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:44 am

I'm just putting out theories today I guess.

1 way to explain Ricastle's play as town, is to believe that HE was really fed up with the wagon on himself Day 1, thinking it was BS (see how he reacted to his own wagon Day 1). And then, he has been just shutting down in ways and half-BSing wagons partially out of frustration on people he thinks are scum.

1 way to explain him scum is to think he is using his frustration/vocalness in tandem to cover up his true intentions and supposed flaws in his made wagons. He's also blowing off people trying to engage him, so that people can't get closer and figure him out. (the failed attempts by others to interact with him)

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1220 (isolation #98) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:51 am

OK I see the old Zodiac game now.

Zodiac I

Nacho got modkilled because he broke a PR? lol. Anyways, it looks like everyone just flipped as simply Townie. Aronis played in that game too.

startfromtheheart · Post Post #1221 (isolation #99) » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:56 am

Look I can see why Nacho pulling back from Maine if they are scum together actually makes sense, even if Nacho dismisses it (Although I haven't looked at exactly where he pulled back his vote - he did pull his vote back though at a dubious time a few hours (or maybe an hour) from deadline, that's for sure).

In post 1219, lane0168 wrote:And btw I think most of what Ricastle is laying down males complete sense right now

including this too? ----

In post 1157, lane0168 wrote:VOTE: Nachomamma8

The end of that day was awful.

In post 1158, Ricastle wrote:Meh

VOTE: Nacho

If Nacho flips town we are going there^ immediately tomorrow

startfromtheheart · Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:37 am

Scary side pl0x

startfromtheheart · Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:59 pm

I thought about this at the store earlier

<lane, nacho>

others - if only one or fewer there -

I can't tell why Ricastle has the peeved vibe going one. Ric also makes no sense with nacho or lane.

Aronis could be sneaking by, as could Metal.

Massive has been underwhelming but I wasn't expecting fireworks like I am from Nacho Momma

startfromtheheart · Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:02 pm

Gotta go. But ugh, with a pair, voting for a partner in any way that seems serious doesn't make sense....

Ugh!

startfromtheheart · Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:32 pm

Might forget to dodge tomorrow as I'm up late. I'm still really undecided about everything.

So, Nacho suspecting massive reminds me of MattP/SunnyDays alt in a really old game where he pretended to be a newbie who didn't know what a vanilla townie was, and won that way. And in the dead thread, Nacho was the one who suspected the "newbie" player when the mod ac1983fan said the last scum would shock everyone. No one else suspected that slot, same with KayP. Tammy even said about how she would be surprised if KayP would replace out as scum shortly after a pristine first completed scumgame. Massive is quite passive so far. He's actually saying a lot without meaning much, very much like my old experience watching an old game of his. That worries me.

Nacho's scumgame is deceivingly effortless, enough to blow away an incoming storm of votes. I'm in the same boat as metal's last Nacho comments in a if-i-don't-take-control-he-might-snow kinda way. Very 50/50, but realistically less than it feels like because of the apparent 2 scum setup. He has mapped out his thoughts about his scum reads in a way that makes a lot of sense. Ugh.

Ricastle I am conflicted about. It's like he has raised his voice to mammoth levels in the nacho strong-arm push. If others are right about the passion lacking, then yeah that would help compensate for it. Still dunno. Voting there seems an easy thing to do. Of all the people to strong-arm a lynch on, why Nacho of all people? Stronger than his pushes of lane or metal, by a mile.

Any wagons I'm missing?

Well, one vote on elusive so. I'm tempted to read that as town because some stuff is way over the top. *shrug*

startfromtheheart · Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:43 pm

Logically Ricastle is the likeliest scum, but I don't actually feel like voting him. I'd rather vote Nacho. Even though he's more persuasive. And surprisingly boring this game. Snooze!

The part he wrote about how I'm not looking at context of actual play, implying I do that as town in past games, is funky and mischaracterizing. A weird way to paint a picture, as I think I'm more free-form spooky BS poster, and he knows that

startfromtheheart · Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:00 pm

I actually don't think Nacho if town actually believes what he's saying about massive lacking heart and thus scummy (which massive laughed off).

Think it was just meant to make massive react.

startfromtheheart · Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:12 pm

VOTE: nacho

startfromtheheart · Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:06 pm

L-2. Far unvoted then revoted

startfromtheheart · Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:35 pm

Why do you think that is?

startfromtheheart · Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:40 pm

*jerk voice* ! Hey!!! You're not supposed to be here! Why don't you take your belongings and leave!

startfromtheheart · Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:17 pm

That was a long five day night. Five. What if nights in real life were 120 hours....

It was a nice breather from mafia though.

VOTE: ricastle

startfromtheheart · Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:18 pm

Shouldn't you be asleep?

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:31 am

In post 1407, Metal Sonic wrote:i am observing

What do you spy

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:51 am

My vote is a Nacho sheep! What do you guys think of it? Comments are welcome

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 9:52 am

Please be forthcoming about it!

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:12 am

Oof! I have been voted!

I didn't get the sense you were enthusiastic at all before today

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:50 am

Aw, breaking up our special 1v1

I've been recognized twice at target today by classmates I haven't seen in 7 years. Ahhhhh

"_____, do you remember me?"

"*stares* oh, _____?"

"Good to see you!"

Ahhhhhh

I could use that kind of spark because motivation fizzles these days for mafia. Dunno why.

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:56 am

Okay, I'll confess I posted that to get the "why talk about personal life so much, that's scummy" comments that were directed at other players earlier.

Call for Motivation. Answer! Anyways, more arguments = profit!

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:33 am

the teddy bear is alive b/c of his big appeal to EMOTIONS at the end of D1. whatever thing he said "i swear ________, it is a sin, blah blah lord something blah " that had religious connotations. i didnt understand what he meant

personally i dont put much stock into that, but nacho/tammy saw that as town with nacho saying "no, hermit would be the worst possible wagon" at the end of D1.

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 11:35 am

you think Ricastle is town?

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:06 pm

Newbie 1229

Lane no wonder your name was familiar

How cool is that? Very uncoolest cool

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 3:33 pm

Okay. Post #1437 does not exist. It is but a figment of your imagination. There are irrefutable facts that explain why 1437 never existed.

startfromtheheart · Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:06 pm

Aronis? Don't you know him well

startfromtheheart · Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:59 am

VOTE: Mainez

startfromtheheart · Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:44 am

In post 1460, Metal Sonic wrote:I'm not townreading start

I'm not scum reading you because you're not spam posting

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:28 am

Yeah Metal is my strongest Townread. You can have my vote unless it's on me, in which case I'll cry and get over it like a baby.

VOTE: massive

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:30 am

Metal if I ever get a 1 shot neighborizer horoscope, I will use it on you.

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:54 am

i really really really think metal is town because he has the i-dont-care-i-dare-you-to-vote-me-and-i-will-only-halfheartedly-fight-it, and even when he got wagoned, he basically did nothing and said next to nothing. that's about right. plus he's not panic spamming or pushing lynches at all. that's like the only read i feel good about in this game, for right or wrong or illogical reasons.

i really dont know about aronis. i had a good read on him in one prior game (same game mini 1543 in early 2014 when i last was town with nacho), and I've been scum with him once before (he went the whole game posting soley one-liners in his iso - with absolutely no substance), that's all my experience with him. he was null. i also replaced him once where he was town, where he pretty much wrote one long post with one case (just like this game) and otherwise just got bored (posted one-liners other than that) and replaced out.

even the hammer which Nacho thought was town, was really null imo

I think this was the post in this game where he had clarity, and for that alone i think i slightly lean town -->>

In post 412, Aronis wrote:So I decided to make my case for elusive scum now, bc I have nothing to do.

So she starts off her ISO by asking RVS questions, which I rarely see, but it's the perfect way for scum to give the appearance of doing something when they really aren't. So that's when my scumread got started. The daykill thing is pretty alignment null, bc she just goes along with it like almost every1 else. Then she requotes her dumb rvs questions to make sure every1 notices them and she gets the towncredit for them.

Following that, she comes out with the most ludicrous sumread I have ever seen on Tammy, because she will not engage on page 8 after having made 7 posts. So honestly I don't see why not engaging people is that scummy unless it's really obvious and extreme and that certainly wasn't the case with Tammy as she had hardly posted and had a chance to engage with people. Then more daykill stuff, which is boring and meaningless.

Next she begins insulting people, which while it's not necessarily scummy and some players just have a reputation for it, I feel like in this case it kind of is, because of the setting. Basically she insults people which 1. makes some people not want to confront her. Re: KayP's replace out. And 2. She starts calling every question dumb and telling people to read what she wrote, etc. Which is an excellent way to avoid answering things.

Then in an attempt to pick apart Marquis reads, she says anyone who has scumreads with only 7 posts is lying, only she somehow forgets she first indicated a scumread on Tammy when she only had 8 posts. So that statement is very contradictory. She also says that you can't have a solid scumread nine pages in, she then votes for Tammy in her very next post. The last post on the ninth page.

Next up, is some other posts which I don't really care about. She does tell Tammy to daykill her, but Tammy had already done that. Which shows that she is obviously not reading things carefully, something she had griped at lane for. Then she decides to insult Tammy for a while. While not really providing any content on why Tammy is scum, just saying tha she is and being very demanding and rude.

Then she gets KayP to replace out. And writes about a nuch of stuff that is super irrelevant.

Mainez seriously reminds me of Marquis, and I have no idea about her. from the flying bird avatar that reminds me of his Doduo bird squawk hydra, to the style, everything. makes me want to instant lynch her, lol

I'll admit i dont really see what's so scummy about massive, but nacho and others are scumreading him so *shrug*

for the majority it comes down to whether i think they are kinda apathetic, or they are scum, apathetic, and okay with the slow game-state, or just scum scared to post much knowing they're under the radar.

ricastle probably has toned down (i dunno if it's on purpose or not) her "fighting spirit" so much that I feel like he's scum. even --->

In post 511, Ricastle wrote:Yeah, you know what. I'm fine with this. I'm not remotely invested in this game and can't see myself contributing meaningfully in the near future.

Sorry for my bad play, guys, really. MS and lane are the most likely scum on my wagon. See you in the next life...

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:58 am

no it's not.

In post 2429, Ricastle wrote:Scum is either herding town the fuck around or this town is dumb as shit. Either way, if my lynch is what it's going to take for town to get its shit together, then so be it.

VOTE: Ricastle

Lynch any of my scumreads, or Bert, tomorrow. That is my only request. I'm out, motherfuckers!

In post 2447, Ricastle wrote:What's everyone's Crossy Road highscore? Mine's 781.

In post 2449, Ricastle wrote:Hey AP, be a big bird and vote me will you? I'd hate to find a scummy pigeon nesting in my hedge.

In post 2451, Ricastle wrote:Oh look, one page until 100.

In post 2452, Ricastle wrote:Wouldn't that be a nice number to get to before day end?

In post 2460, Ricastle wrote:HAHA

BYE THEN

In post 2464, Ricastle wrote:Yep, the big 1 0 0 folks. THREE digits.

In post 2468, Ricastle wrote:
In post 2063, Ricastle wrote:Town
Sonic Boom
Homiletic Homunculi
Generic
Singersigner

Null-Town
p2
Espsyoncheage (very slight)

Null
Randomidget
Oversoul
ZZZX
Bert

Null-Scum
Cait Sith
Angry Frat BROs

Scum
MarioMan4
Seiko x Naomi
TWIE
Wisdom
WOAH A LIST WHERE DID THAT COME FROM

In post 2529, Ricastle wrote:Even better: I can laugh at you in the dead thread.

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 4:59 am

In post 1487, Metal Sonic wrote:is that supposed to make me townread you? its not working

you're supposed to scumread me because you dont townread me unless youre scum and know im town. like that BS "bert is obvtown and it's all gut" in Mara's game that ended last week.

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:04 am

cant until this game is over.

btw fun fact - all that needs for my wagon to happen, is for someone like mainez who just arbitrarily votes, to vote me, and for someone like massive to vote me. then it's magic! i actually wouldnt be surprised if that happened.

the ricastle, massive and mainez wagons are so. hard. to. build. up. this. game. for real! <3

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:09 am

In post 1475, Metal Sonic wrote:VOTE: massive ^ looks scummy

In post 1478, Metal Sonic wrote:we are not lynching hermit ever. he is obvtown

aronis i can do

if youre willing to lynch aronis and massive, do you believe that both of their predecessors replaced out as scum? it's not uncommon for that to happen, just kinda interesting.

kayp replaced out because he/she was clearly annoyed by elusive's style, i dont think that meant too much. and aronis was just bored regardless of alignment i think. but in that case of both scum, they were in a very favorable gamestate. well, at least Aronis was aware of the favorable gamestate ---> Nacho was the one vote on massive, and his only vocal detractor got lynched, so that would be a huge win for massive-scum.

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:46 am

You can tell from my posts in this game that I don't understand context - like Nacho's posts about my context

Lol

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:09 am

Who's lurking?

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:23 pm

ricastle wagon is like an impossible task, been there done that

it's cray cray how it won't build

but if you insist on trying again, i will help. i dont have my hopes up though

VOTE: ricastle

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:25 pm

ted may i ask why

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 5:41 pm

In post 1516, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:You may

why

p-edit: nero wouldnt shamelessly resort to an AtE like Day 1 imo

rampage might make sense though

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:31 pm

Ah'm already voting ric (2nd time on day 3, but who's counting)

Maybe 2nd time's the charm?

Also the "elusive is confirmed scum" is ummmmmmmm Wat?

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:42 pm

Argh this is going nowhere

startfromtheheart · Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:44 pm

In post 1529, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Ricastle is a back and forth for me, but I am pretty confident he is town of recently.

Orly? What has he done that makes you confident

startfromtheheart · Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:36 am

In post 1555, Mainez wrote:@sala
hi mate, it's been awhile! sadly, i'm not townreading your slot.

-

hermit is so scummy gaaaaaaah

and Ricastle? Is there a reason you may think he's town?

startfromtheheart · Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:08 pm

Paranoia goggles on, I would say elusive-sala. (Never listen to my paranoia, it kills and is terrible for a lot of reasons )

Realistically, I feel good about a Mainez-Ricastle team.

startfromtheheart · Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:33 pm

In post 1607, elusive wrote:So you seem to be ignoring farisde reading ricastle as scum, why?

startfromtheheart · Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:35 pm

Salamence, you should probably vote before you go V/LA, as deadline is in 5 days. You have scumreads, and you have support for the ones you choose (outside Sonic).

Lane and Salamence, the metal wagon is not going to happen. I will not vote there. Vote elsewhere -your other scumread(s).

Hermit, the elusive wagon is not going to happen either. Compromise if needed.

It really should come down to voting me or Ricastle. (Maybe Mainez, but that's a real long shot. Same with Massive. So yeah, start or Ricastle). But yeah, no frantic end like day 1 resulting in a no lynch please! <3

startfromtheheart · Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:36 pm

tl;dr the worst thing possible is to watch us all twiddle our thumbs and not vote wagons that might gain enough momentum without needing a last minute flash lynch at the deadline.

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:15 am

In post 1624, Salamence20 wrote:
In post 1622, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:Lynching town is a bad compromise m8

Lynching you is an effective compromise

Ouch, Hermit. Did you hear that?

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:08 am

If I get lynched, please leave. Metal. Alone. Tomorrow.

Thanks lol

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:14 am

<Mainez (if he lives to LYLO I will do a virtual cry), Ricastle (ugh)>

And think hard (re-evaluate) about Sala (and Hermit) if one of those is wrong (Depending on which flips scum).

everyone else different degree of town. I am off to read about ear grommets and how to pop one's ears. LAter.

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:51 am

^i like this person

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:45 pm

Are you a Katsuki alt?

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:56 pm

Who is lurking?

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:10 pm

In post 1648, Salamence20 wrote:Elusive is avoiding the thread.
We havent heard from Mainez in forever (and I mean actual thoughts and stuff)
Lane? Constantine?

Constantine posted this morning. So did Elusive. Mainez is doing what he has done all games

The only one needing prods is Lane. That is it.

It's not like tomorrow's DL and there's that sense of urgency.

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:11 pm

In post 1648, Salamence20 wrote:Elusive is avoiding the thread.
We havent heard from Mainez in forever (and I mean actual thoughts and stuff)
Lane? Constantine?

Constantine posted this morning. So did Elusive. Mainez is doing what he has done all game long

The only one needing prods is Lane. That is it.

It's not like tomorrow's DL and there's that sense of urgency.

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:39 pm

Ok.

<Mainez, Ric>

Outside shot of Sala and Elusive. Mainez or Ricastle really needs to go tomorrow

Mainez obvscum I think. I believe in my Ricastle read.

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:40 pm

I would like to see Ricastle lynched tomorrow. That wagon won't stop stagnating.

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:48 pm

Confirm Vote: Ricastle

For good measure.

Getting lynched cannot compare to acupuncture today. That was actually painful. Lol. This lynch is just like that fly buzzing in my ear. It doesn't go away and is a nuisance, but it's not that bad, and it's a feeling where the cause is known. It's when something's cause is yet unknown, where desperation actually sets in and you test every single thing possible and never give up. What if it's sinusitis with no symtpoms, what if you believe there is a blocked pathway that won't show up on a CT or MRI. Having people on your side irl matters even if they cant understand. In mafia it is the opposite - you don't know who is on your side. I am in a really weird mood.

Later

/mobile

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:49 pm

It took me 10 minutes to tap in that post on my phone so I didn't see the posts above mine, lol.

startfromtheheart · Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:47 pm

In post 1017, Metal Sonic wrote:VOTE: mainez

In post 1669, Salamence20 wrote:Also berts playing a good scumgame if he is scum i guess

im playing horribly regardless of my alignment ------>

like, half the players are willing to vote me, saying they think im scum. the other half doesnt really townread me or care if im lynched.

startfromtheheart · Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:47 am

mainez?

In post 1384, Mainez wrote:
In post 1380, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:I also want to know Mainzez D1 good fortune, since he is on almost everybody's radar right now.

i kinda don't mind sharing what i got but it seems a little anti-town in my opinion.
how will knowing my horoscope help you or town?

In post 1391, Mainez wrote:actually it hasn't been used, (supposed to add a clause here but not sure if i should gaaaaah)
and i only received one, what are you talking about?

do all of you think there's a need for me to reveal my horoscope??

resounding yes

startfromtheheart · Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:02 am

sala youre reminding me of ETL in merry upon replacing in lol

ill hammer in 30 minutes i guess, I'm sort of multi tasking right now

startfromtheheart · Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:03 am

the only thing i dont like is that ricastle is on the wagon, but i dont care, ill ignore that hes on the wagon if/when i hammer.

startfromtheheart · Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:07 am

what do I have to do with Mainez, exactly?

Metal, are you satisfied with a mainez lynch today y/n

startfromtheheart · Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:15 am

VOTE: Mainez

startfromtheheart · Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:15 am

Now it's L-1. Massive unvoted and voted Sonic earlier.

startfromtheheart · Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:27 am

In post 1711, massive wrote:So you wanted to be absolved of the hammer, huh?

um no I said I was going to hammer in 30 minutes

startfromtheheart · Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:38 am

In post 1714, Salamence20 wrote:
If Mainez is scum - Massive/Lane

If Mainez is town - Sonic/Start and/or Constantine

this doens't even make sense

startfromtheheart · Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:45 am

cant tell if srs

should i laugh or cry

startfromtheheart · Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:47 am

In post 1739, Metal Sonic wrote:Umm it activates on N3 I think.

That means that it's the night before Mainez got lynched.

how did you roleblock massive last night if you said you being jailed activates N3?

startfromtheheart · Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:48 am

In post 1749, Metal Sonic wrote:Change your avatar, seriously

Am I the ONLY person here who's raising concerns about this?

I had this avatar on my main for a while last year lol

as i said, after this game.

startfromtheheart · Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:48 am

In post 1754, Metal Sonic wrote:It was N4 last night.

startfromtheheart · Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:57 am

In post 1746, Metal Sonic wrote:Whatever guys, I don't have the patience to troll for too long.

On D2, my fortunate horoscope was a 1 Shot Roleblock. I roleblocked massive, because if there was a nightkill tonight, he'd be 100% clear (because of horoscope shenanigans).

In post 1, RedCoyote wrote:Jailed - The player that receives this is locked in jail
tonight
and cannot commit a night action nor have a night action committed on them. Note: No other player is responsible for this jailing.

You received your horoscope Day 2, so I'm guessing it took effect Night 2?

startfromtheheart · Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:59 am

I mean, it looks like you were made aware of your Day 2 unfortunate horoscope at the start of Day 2 (or end of Night 1, whichever, same thing). So....

and you got your fortunate as a Day 3 horoscope (at the beginning of Day 3/end of night 2)

startfromtheheart · Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:02 am

Oh. Yikes. it comes down to whether your Day 3 unfortunate jailed you for Night 3 then.

startfromtheheart · Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:12 am

VOTE: Massive