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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:14 pm

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Clinton/Kucinich vs JBush/someone with strong military background.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:41 am

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Is that your prediction? Because kucinich as a vp would be a... very bold prediction.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:14 am

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Hillary might take O'Malley as VP, in order to have someone from a southern state on the ticket.

As for Jeb, he might want to get a woman as his VP. But I think he might try and screen them a little more carefully then McCain did, lol.
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:23 am

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Maryland isn't Southern in any way that would be meaningful for an election.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:25 am

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If you're looking for a southerner Clinton can add, I'd expect one of the Senators of Virginia (probably Tim Kaine over Mark Warner) to be high on the list. Julian Castro (or Joaquin) would be an exciting choice as well and would counteract her age.
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:36 am

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She could go way out on a limb and pick up Wendy Davis but that would seems to me like it would be stupid
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:38 am

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Yeah I don't see any advantage to that.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:02 am

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In post 229, zoraster wrote:If you're looking for a southerner Clinton can add, I'd expect one of the Senators of Virginia (probably Tim Kaine over Mark Warner) to be high on the list. Julian Castro (or Joaquin) would be an exciting choice as well and would counteract her age.


Fair enough. Virginia is much more of a swing state, after all.

And, yeah; the VP has to be someone who's both younger and who people would think would be plausible as a President. For an older candidate especially, having a convincing VP who could plausibly take over is very important. That's part of the reason Sarah Palin was such a disaster for McCain.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:12 am

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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:14 pm

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In post 221, quadz08 wrote:my issue with articles discussing that is that she was a palin supporter like 8 years ago while she was in high school

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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:43 pm

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I went to Bernie's LA rally yesterday. 27000 people. The guy's support is outrageous, he really has a chance.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:50 pm

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Even my republican mother recognizes Bernie is a decent candidate. If he can get people to cross party lines like that, it's a good sign.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:31 am

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What, to your republican mother, makes him a "decent candidate"? I really fail to see how Sanders can make people "cross party lines" unless they weren't remotely conservative to begin with.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:40 am

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he's an old white guy, zor, obviously
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:43 am

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I guess Sanders does love guns, but it's hard to think of another area where Sanders sits closer to a Republican candidate than any of the other Democratic candidates.

EDIT: I mean, other than being an old white guy.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:57 am

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also, for what it's worth, today is the first major poll that has Sanders up on Clinton in New Hampshire. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -3351.html

If he's going to win, he'll need a pretty convincing finish in NH. In Iowa, he's still down by 27 points.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:42 am

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In post 237, zoraster wrote:What, to your republican mother, makes him a "decent candidate"? I really fail to see how Sanders can make people "cross party lines" unless they weren't remotely conservative to begin with.


At this point, a lot of conservatives really hate Hillary Clinton mostly because there's been a pretty steady stream of anti-Hillary attacks made in the conservative media for the past 20 years, ranging from the plausible to the conspiracy theory to the bizarre.

If Sanders gets the nomination, or even looks like he might, *then* conservative media will start telling all the conservatives why they should hate him. Right now, they're not bothering for the most part.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:08 am

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i mean i think you're right. But there was that period for a while there where conservatives loved her when Obama was winning the nomination.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:09 am

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Wait, conservatives make decisions on who to like based on political expediency?
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:11 am

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I think the whole server issue has really hurt her credibility/trustworthiness in the general public's eyes.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:16 am

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I think it's certainly fed a perception that already existed, yeah.
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:20 am

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In post 244, T S O wrote:I think the whole server issue has really hurt her credibility/trustworthiness in the general public's eyes.

it hurt her integrity / intelligence in my eyes, that's for sure, and I'm about as liberal as they come

as an IT professional in state government, doing that kind of shit is basic levels of "no shit, sherlock"
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:43 am

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Kucinich is 69 years old, he's past his political prime.
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:59 am

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Old men are not welcome in politics, especially if they're rich and white.
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:09 am

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Politicians will take their money, but I don't think Clinton wants another Dick Cheney.

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