In post 723, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Polar, i agree with sthar that he's better lynch for tomorrow based on what he does. i'd rather lynch firebringer today.
p-edit: i suppose but i think you are wrong about firebringer.
Hmm, I thought that too, but I'm not completly sure. And I won't vote over my other head.
And sonic, I'm doing the same as you but at least I have another head who doesn't suspect you by POE.
In post 723, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Polar, i agree with sthar that he's better lynch for tomorrow based on what he does. i'd rather lynch firebringer today.
p-edit: i suppose but i think you are wrong about firebringer.
He's scum, there's no better lynch. What do you expect him to do that he hasn't had the chance to do yet?
In post 729, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Because if he's NOT scum, he's an asset, and giving him a night to prove himself is beneficial in that case. He's the new oldMastin.
How is he an asset? You don't seriously believe he's a cop, do you?
In post 729, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Because if he's NOT scum, he's an asset, and giving him a night to prove himself is beneficial in that case. He's the new oldMastin.
How is he an asset? You don't seriously believe he's a cop, do you?
Because he's an INCREDIBLE player. He's an expert scumhunter with great instincts. I would LIKE to trust him. If I can determine him to be town, I want that. I want the ability to lean on him and work with him. I'm more willing to allow that possibility than I am to throw it away if I'm wrong.
I don't know if he's a cop or not and I don't particularly care. I am hoping that he'll do something fantastic, because if he's town, I can almost guarantee that he will. (That being said, if I die tonight, lynch the fuck out of him tomorrow.)
There's no way you can know that for certain. I have plenty of reason to believe that he is, but I also recognize that a lot of it is paranoia, and I want more time to sort him. So in the meantime, even if he is scum, there's still one other mafia out there to find. And I believe it is Firebringer.
If he's such an incredible town player, his play here is even more of a reason to think he's scum, because it's far from being what I'd expect from an incredible town player. And you agree. All you have on him are your hopes. We can't not lynch players because we hope or wish they were town when everything points at them being scum. You're not paranoid about him being scum, you're paranoid of him being town, you're afraid of being wrong about your scum read. That's what I get.
my top 2 scum reads are voting someone together which is enough for me to think wingback is probably town.
But to answer your question, ETL, if it wasn't for you reading them as town... I would still be, and probably still am, PISSED that I would get scum read for something as terrible as "I remember everything about all my games from the past, why don't you?" That was the basis for their push on me being scum and I'm still baffled I was being scum read beyond that.
Telling me I'm scum, because I thought Wisdom was playing differently that what I'm used to, but I didn't realize until after he mentioned he was always scum in every game we've played together until this one... I was really scum read for that. Because of my memory? I guess? Because I play so many games and only have enough room in my head for the ones I'm playing, not the ones I've played? You know how many players, and flips I would have to remember to be town in wingback's eyes at that point?
I can recall a player, and a playstyle to the extent of how they usually are and aren't. But I don't use "meta" anywhere near how a lot of people use it on this site because I don't believe in meta. All I could tell from this game was I've played with Wisdom and usually the things he does and says hypnotize me to some point and make perfect sense.. But this game it just seemed different. Because I couldn't put the pieces together before Wisdom explained it to me... I was scum.
That's why I wouldn't town read wingback with out you ETL. Because it was bullshit to scum read me for that.
I'm a little skeptical of your assertions that my scum and town games are so similar. You had no trouble at all discerning I was scum in the Arcadia game.
In post 743, sekai no ki wrote:I'm a little skeptical of your assertions that my scum and town games are so similar. You had no trouble at all discerning I was scum in the Arcadia game.
I had antihero to bounce my thoughts off and i was in the zone during that game. I haven't played a lot lately, just been spectating games.
I don't even remember a game I've played with pieguy so it's just reading the way i would read any new person. like wingback or firebringer. never played with either of them before, so i'm going by gut.
Ok. I'll see if she agrees you haven't played together often.
I was feeling like you haven't made much of an effort to question us. Looking at your iso, I see several questions and comments for us in the early game. They seemed more about understanding our reads and asking for more detail than about directly sorting us. And they fell off after you had that first go-round with MS.
