512: Bojack Horseman Season 2 (Over)

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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:06 pm

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In post 821, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I get the feeling that FB is taking this a solo game, when it is very much a team game. If he is town, it would make for a far better team effort if he tried to communicate without so much hostility. You don't need to be friends with someone to not be rude.

p-edit: See Polar's post. MS said, "Even if I'm lying, I'm still town."

1) That's not a admission.

2)in a game if mafia you trust no one. None of you are trustworthy as of yet. Maybe Bojack but I am not sure flavor confirms alignment yet.

3) you been reading your own posts about hostility? Really?
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:07 pm

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In post 823, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Why would I lie about something that can be proven with thread history...... :igmeou:

You definitely misrepresented it.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:08 pm

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In post 824, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:There's a difference between discussion and antagonism. You accuse me of antagonism, but when people post things looking for feedback, and your feedback is "You're a bad player. This post is boring." the reaction is not going to be very favorable to you.

What?

You can discuss and be antagonistic at same time you dolt.

One doesn't exclude the other.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:12 pm

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That's absolutely clearly an admission. And I'm not sure how 2 is relevant in any way... ETL is completly right about mafia being a team game. If you are serial killer, yes, you go alone. If you're scum you can try going alone by bussing partners. But town needs to do what town does, working together
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:12 pm

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In post 827, Firebringer wrote:
In post 824, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:There's a difference between discussion and antagonism. You accuse me of antagonism, but when people post things looking for feedback, and your feedback is "You're a bad player. This post is boring." the reaction is not going to be very favorable to you.

What?

You can discuss and be antagonistic at same time
you dolt.


One doesn't exclude the other.

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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:14 pm

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In post 827, Firebringer wrote:
In post 824, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:There's a difference between discussion and antagonism. You accuse me of antagonism, but when people post things looking for feedback, and your feedback is "You're a bad player. This post is boring." the reaction is not going to be very favorable to you.

What?

You can discuss and be antagonistic at same time you dolt.

One doesn't exclude the other.



Yes, but the correct response to disagreeing is certainly not going ad hominem, but rather "I disagree because...". See the because? That's the key word in the sentence. Giving reasons. We feel you haven't done that.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:14 pm

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I'm done with Firebringer. There's no having an actual conversation with him that doesn't include insults and hostility.

There is no room for nastiness. This is a game among friends. If you can't be respectful, you can gtfo.
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:17 pm

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In post 828, Polar Vortex wrote:That's absolutely clearly an admission. And I'm not sure how 2 is relevant in any way... ETL is completly right about mafia being a team game. If you are serial killer, yes, you go alone. If you're scum you can try going alone by bussing partners. But town needs to do what town does, working together

Wrong it isn't a admission.
Wouldn't stand up in a courtroom. Doesn't stand up here.

He admits he isn't cop by saying "I am not cop" that is a admission. See the difference?

Also you work together with players you think are on your team but so far I have no good scum reads besides perhaps ETL to think any of you are town.
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:20 pm

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And the only reason you think I'm scum is because you don't like my attitude towards you, as you have admitted.

That is not a good reason.
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:21 pm

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You like MS because he was nice to you. You liked Polar because he unvoted you, where you were scumreading him before, suddenly you weren't.

This is not scumhunting at all.
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:21 pm

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In post 830, Polar Vortex wrote:
In post 827, Firebringer wrote:
In post 824, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:There's a difference between discussion and antagonism. You accuse me of antagonism, but when people post things looking for feedback, and your feedback is "You're a bad player. This post is boring." the reaction is not going to be very favorable to you.

What?

You can discuss and be antagonistic at same time you dolt.

One doesn't exclude the other.



Yes, but the correct response to disagreeing is certainly not going ad hominem, but rather "I disagree because...". See the because? That's the key word in the sentence. Giving reasons. We feel you haven't done that.

I feel like we should sit down and talk things out because if we are calm and civil it will be easier to find scum.

Wait you are saying hostility and aggression are apart of human experience
That these emotions are key to expressing how a person thinks and feels?
That if we examine why they express these emotions we might better understand them?

Hmm that's no way to play. Mafia is a game of logic, not psychology.
We are here to lie and spot liars, not be dicks.

We are professionals.

No emotion except happiness or neutrality.


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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:24 pm

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In post 833, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:And the only reason you think I'm scum is because you don't like my attitude towards you, as you have admitted.

That is not a good reason.

In post 834, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:You like MS because he was nice to you. You liked Polar because he unvoted you, where you were scumreading him before, suddenly you weren't.

This is not scumhunting at all.

I changed my mind in Polar because scum aren't tunneled, which is why I think I could be wrong about you right now btw.

So yeah.

Also ignore me pressuring Kaboose.

I admitted my attitude on you might be clouding my judgement, and that is me being honest about it.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:24 pm

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Are we in the courtroom?

Well, we're 11 players here. We'll be the jury. 9 of us think it was a lie and think the accuser has confesed to his sinful ways. One of the juries is the defendent for some strange beaurocratic reasons. Should we not pass the sentence as a lie because one of the juries classified the admission as technically not one, even if the meaning is clear. Or don't you find the meaning clear?
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:26 pm

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In post 837, Polar Vortex wrote:Are we in the courtroom?

Well, we're 11 players here. We'll be the jury. 9 of us think it was a lie and think the accuser has confesed to his sinful ways. One of the juries is the defendent for some strange beaurocratic reasons. Should we not pass the sentence as a lie because one of the juries classified the admission as technically not one, even if the meaning is clear. Or don't you find the meaning clear?

You realize with jurry it has to be unanimous decision right?

Also we are 8 players minus one for Sonic who is on trial.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:27 pm

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Going to go something more pleasant for awhile like hit my head against the wall for awhile.
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:28 pm

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I am V/LA starting now until Friday morning, just FYI. I will try to check in at least once tomorrow when I jump into work for an hour, but otherwise, I'm not here.


p-edit: In this jury, it only has to be 50%+1.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:32 pm

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11 players?
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:33 pm

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We're 11. Hydras count as two people in this. Counting them as one person is rude.

And juries are unanimous? Damn, the idea is even more stupid than I thought. What if we have a jury who is obtuse like I think it's thd case here.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:34 pm

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anyway, firebringer at the very least MS has been misleading. I feel like you're bending over backwards to minimize that when if you're town you should be thinking about it squarely - what town benefit and what scum benefit could accrue from his actions.
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:44 pm

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In post 740, Polar Vortex wrote:
In post 736, Metal Sonic wrote:but nothing points at me being scum? what are you talking about?

For starters, your "laugh-in-your face scum attitude". Then there are your terrible reads, your bad vote, your chit chat spam...


It's pretty sad looking at that vote count and thinking the only good vote there is ours. Come on town.



So the grass is orange, your nose is blue, and Orlando is bigger than China, and that makes me scum.

Yeah, anybody on earth can knows that's bullshit.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:18 pm

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Last time I will ask, Sonic are you a cop?
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:40 pm

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In post 844, Metal Sonic wrote:
In post 740, Polar Vortex wrote:
In post 736, Metal Sonic wrote:but nothing points at me being scum? what are you talking about?

For starters, your "laugh-in-your face scum attitude". Then there are your terrible reads, your bad vote, your chit chat spam...


It's pretty sad looking at that vote count and thinking the only good vote there is ours. Come on town.



So the grass is orange, your nose is blue, and Orlando is bigger than China, and that makes me scum.

Yeah, anybody on earth can knows that's bullshit.


:) Yes, that's exactly it. Keep on scumming.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:41 pm

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* :]

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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:43 pm

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ETL, do you still think Firebringer is scum?
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:47 pm

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He claimed he was a cop, why would you need him to say it again?

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