Mini 1700: Space Mafia (Game Over)

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:37 am

In post 774, Slandaar wrote:
In post 771, GrayFoxxxx wrote:1.He wants to double check. Not scummy at all to me. Are ISO's only available to scum?
2.read above

When you say double check what you mean is 'he didn't have an opinion so went and ISO'ed responding to each post so that he had one' then responded. It's especially bad as it was the leading wagon at deadline whom any townie should have had a decent opinion on and not needed to ISO to post a response.

In post 443, Scorpious wrote:fair.. Let me do an ISO. I dont think there is much..

That does not read like 'Let me double check'.

What is your opinion on X Gray?
'Let me do an ISO'

Does that sound like you are double checking or that you don't really have one?

It seems very clear to me that all these factors mean that anyone doing this has a higher chance than random to flip scum. You apparently think otherwise.

In post 771, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Your third question seems loaded asf, and by answering it I am indirectly accusing scorp of doing two things that I don't think he did/is doing.

You found his question useful?

Ok we don't agree on what he meant.
Maybe the question was useful to him. Maybe not.

Doctor Vahlen · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:03 am

Slandaar, GrayFoxx and Scorpious are town. The cases on them happened right after Fluggernaut and Firebringer were getting consensus scumreads.

I am not voting you three. Stop trying. We are lynching scum today.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:26 am

In post 776, Doctor Vahlen wrote:Slandaar, GrayFoxx and Scorpious are town. The cases on them happened right after Fluggernaut and Firebringer were getting consensus scumreads.

Meh I don't get the connection.

Scorpious · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:37 am

In post 651, Firebringer wrote:Hmmm

You know what, I could see it.

VOTE: Doctor Vahlen

Can you elaborate on this a little more? especially since you said this three posts before:

In post 648, Firebringer wrote:I want confirmation on night action before I consider voting .

DeasVail · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:54 am

Slandaar yesssss

VOTE: ScorpiousVOTE:

DeasVail · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:55 am

Oops. Phone posting is hard.

VOTE: ScorpiousVOTE:

DeasVail · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:56 am

Gah I did the same thing. This is the worst.

VOTE: Scorpious

DeasVail · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:56 am

Those skills

Doctor Vahlen · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:33 am

In post 777, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 776, Doctor Vahlen wrote:Slandaar, GrayFoxx and Scorpious are town. The cases on them happened right after Fluggernaut and Firebringer were getting consensus scumreads.

Meh I don't get the connection.

At the time of the "case" against Scorpious by DeasVail, Fluggernaut was flailing continuing to try and play semantics (and wow he's lurking now). Firebringer was catching heat for his terrible vote on me ("waiting for confirmation" and then suddenly voting me).

Slandaar was going to town on them. You were suspicious of them.

DeasVail comes in and attacks Scorpious for no reason. They start to lurk.

They are trying to lurk out the wagons on them.

Firebringer · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:45 am

Good points,

Except you assume they are lurking to avoid suspicion when they easily could be busy in RL.

Grasping straws.

They are active and will be back.

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:03 pm

In post 783, Doctor Vahlen wrote:
In post 777, GrayFoxxxx wrote:
In post 776, Doctor Vahlen wrote:Slandaar, GrayFoxx and Scorpious are town. The cases on them happened right after Fluggernaut and Firebringer were getting consensus scumreads.

Meh I don't get the connection.

At the time of the "case" against Scorpious by DeasVail, Fluggernaut was flailing continuing to try and play semantics (and wow he's lurking now). Firebringer was catching heat for his terrible vote on me ("waiting for confirmation" and then suddenly voting me).

Slandaar was going to town on them.
You were suspicious of them.

DeasVail comes in and attacks Scorpious for no reason. They start to lurk.

They are trying to lurk out the wagons on them.

I wasn't suspicious of either of them. Ive been white knighting Firebringer for like half my posts.

That aside, even if everything else is true, I don't see how my wagon is related to them being scum.

Scorpious · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:06 pm

@Firebringer, Are you going to address 778?

Firebringer · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:12 pm

[quote="In post 786, Scorpious"]@Firebringer, Are you going to address 778[/quite]
No, not really.

That make me scum?

Scorpious · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:16 pm

In post 787, Firebringer wrote:
In post 786, Scorpious wrote:@Firebringer, Are you going to address 778[/quite]
No, not really.

That make me scum?

Not answering questions is very scummy. This is not the first time you have blatantly avoided answering something either.. How does this help town?

VOTE: Firebringer

Doctor Vahlen · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:35 pm

GreyFoxx, wagon timing is everything. If scum don't divert attention, they'll be lynched.

Firebringer · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:37 pm

In post 788, Scorpious wrote:
In post 787, Firebringer wrote:
In post 786, Scorpious wrote:@Firebringer, Are you going to address 778[/quite]
No, not really.

That make me scum?

Not answering questions is very scummy. This is not the first time you have blatantly avoided answering something either.. How does this help town?

VOTE: Firebringer

You can policy lynch me all day, won't help you find scum.

Also it kinda makes you look scummy.

Doctor Vahlen · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:40 pm

VOTE: Firebringer

You can strawman arguments and refuse to scumhunt, that doesn't make you any less scummy.

Firebringer · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:16 pm

In post 791, Doctor Vahlen wrote:VOTE: Firebringer

You can strawman arguments and refuse to scumhunt, that doesn't make you any less scummy.

I deserve to he lynched anyway for screwing up with Blocky anyways.

Town is losing out of gates.

DeasVail · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:26 pm

I was going to wait for fitz to show up before voting, but Scorpious has always been someone who has seemed pretty possible as scum to me. His questioning of me did indeed leave a sour taste in my mouth, as I still don't really understand the motivation behind it. If he did really wonder if I was voting in order to have a wagon to carry me (as suggested in 730), then what would he expect me to say? Oh yes, I just voted BlockyMan because really I'm a manipulative scummy scum that wants to be pro-town and lynch Blocky for some reason. Hmmmm! If he really thought my initial response to him was "a weak thing to say" then why does he even believe me?

Other than that I don't really like his responses to Slandaar and he's just generally been in the peripheries, sort of there, and I think that's where scum like to be!

This doesn't mean fitz is off the hook though!

Fraggernaut · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:02 am

In post 745, VictorDeAngelo wrote:
In post 743, Firebringer wrote:So if I say town a lot, I am scum.
Cool.

Town, town, town, town, town, town

It's as if your reading the words in my posts but not bothering yourself with trying to understand the meaning.

In post 744, Fraggernaut wrote:

So far throughout this game though it doesn't seem like you're willing at all to reassess reads.

Sure I am. For instance, earlier this game I was townreading you. I'm sure if I hadn't bothered reassessing that read you wouldn't be nearly as concerned though.

You barely ever mentioned a town read on me outside of early d1. You should be more concerned with remembering your reads.

Fraggernaut · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:15 am

@Doctor I've been one of the most active in this game. Are you really trying to base your mislynch on me on a activity basis? Isn't this the same exact thing I was slammed for in d1?

If my fellow town even considers this logic then we are going to lose.

Slandaar · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:23 am

In post 790, Firebringer wrote:
Also it kinda makes you look scummy.

Come on Fire join the wagon. You know it makes sense.

Garmr · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:29 am

OK VOTE: scorp

Slandaar · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:35 am

In post 775, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Ok we don't agree on what he meant.
Maybe the question was useful to him. Maybe not.

Double Checking before posting your opinion is actually scummy in itself as it is a cautious/careful thing. You disagree?

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, do

you

think it was useful?

GrayFoxxxx · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:41 am

In post 798, Slandaar wrote:
In post 775, GrayFoxxxx wrote:Ok we don't agree on what he meant.
Maybe the question was useful to him. Maybe not.

Double Checking before posting your opinion is actually scummy in itself as it is a cautious/careful thing. You disagree?

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, do
you
think it was useful?

Yes I disagree.
No not useful to me, but I don't expect everything everyone does to relate to me.