Face to face I wouldn't need to ask you questions. This is a limitation of the text-based medium. I do not believe we are communicating effectively, so I'd like to establish a baseline for your cognitive development, general empathy, and primary motivation. I'd also like to understand any language or cultural barriers. This will help me communicate with you more efficiently and form a more accurate read on your in-game intent.
Why are you focusing on Firebringer? Do you seriously need all that to read him better or do you want to work with him that bad?
It all seems pretty unnecessary. And you didn't ask these questions to anyone else. The game has also been going on for some days, so if you wanted to profile him, why wait until now?
In post 907, sekai no ki wrote:I don't think anyone should be expected to answer personal questions from a stranger on the internet. I'd be pretty creeped out, too.
There's a lot to catch up on. My only scumread being Metal Sonic means I'm wrong somewhere on my townreads. I don't think it is Polar or Kaboose and I don't think Firebringer is partnered with Sonic. I need to think about my reads on ETL, Sekai, and Sthar8.
I need to read more deeply into the game which I'll do over the next few hours. I'll break this up into sections starting with Sekai's two walls. I'm probably voting Sonic once I'm done if nothing changes.
In post 584, sekai no ki wrote:i didn't like sthar's kaboose case. a lot of what he pointed out was really obvious, but i don't get the impression he was actually considering possibilities or analyzing motivation there - the first two points i think are (infuriatingly) more likely playstyle as opposed to anything alignment indicative. the third point i don't see how he gets "backpedaling" off of what kaboose actually said there and i don't see how it relates to being able to scum read someone via meta. in hindsight, i remember a lot of these types of posts in 13p normal (namely the scum case he made on egg based around thor/mala interactions where he pointed out a bunch of stuff that *looked* scummy but wasn't actually solid). i might be reading too much into it or biased here
Sthar8's case echoed mine but it is a little different. I don't agree that it was scummy of him to post it. Looking over it in Post 501:
The "squicky opportunism part was pretty accurate. I had a similar problem with Kaboose which I mentioned earlier in Post 339 and Post 344.
I don't agree with Sthar that the defense by red herring was alignment indicative.
The third point about Wisdom was something that I mentioned earlier as well in my two posts that I linked. I think players tend to remember the alignments of others in previous games remarkably well. For instance, if I picked a random game of yours and asked you who the scumteam were, my guess is that you would recall accurately. Can you tell me who was the scumteam in Left 4 Dead without looking? It is something I noticed a while ago - it is very hard to forget who was scum. Granted, it doesn't apply to every player but if Kaboose was paying enough attention to Wisdom in those to notice behavioral tells, also forgetting that Wisdom was scum was unlikely. Anyways, I don't suspect Kaboose now. I just think he's a wierd anomaly. I'm more hoping to get a read on your motives and possibly Sthar8's. I'm not sure I'd have said Kaboose was backpedaling. I thought he was making stuff up by referring to Wisdom's meta and got caught on it.
Sthar8's case brought up similar points to mine. Why did you only have an issue with him and not me (was it just the meta-reference of Sthar pushing cases like this in the past as scum)?
In post 907, sekai no ki wrote:I don't think anyone should be expected to answer personal questions from a stranger on the internet. I'd be pretty creeped out, too.
This is pretty much why I don't want to.
I will say that I am American and English is my primary language. That should give you decent enough info to profile me ( not really but I don't think my education level or job helps much either)
Polar Vortex wrote:Sekai no Ki, Wingback, sthar8, why no vote?
you're only just asking us that?
What do you mean?
I mean we haven't put a vote down all game. The closest I came was to wanting vote kaboose over Wisdom's play being off from prior Wisdom-scum games. hydra synch hesitation.
In post 584, sekai no ki wrote:i didn't like sthar's kaboose case. a lot of what he pointed out was really obvious, but i don't get the impression he was actually considering possibilities or analyzing motivation there - the first two points i think are (infuriatingly) more likely playstyle as opposed to anything alignment indicative. the third point i don't see how he gets "backpedaling" off of what kaboose actually said there and i don't see how it relates to being able to scum read someone via meta. in hindsight, i remember a lot of these types of posts in 13p normal (namely the scum case he made on egg based around thor/mala interactions where he pointed out a bunch of stuff that *looked* scummy but wasn't actually solid). i might be reading too much into it or biased here
Sthar8's case echoed mine but it is a little different. I don't agree that it was scummy of him to post it. Looking over it in Post 501:
The "squicky opportunism part was pretty accurate. I had a similar problem with Kaboose which I mentioned earlier in Post 339 and Post 344.
I don't agree with Sthar that the defense by red herring was alignment indicative.
The third point about Wisdom was something that I mentioned earlier as well in my two posts that I linked. I think players tend to remember the alignments of others in previous games remarkably well. For instance, if I picked a random game of yours and asked you who the scumteam were, my guess is that you would recall accurately. Can you tell me who was the scumteam in Left 4 Dead without looking? It is something I noticed a while ago - it is very hard to forget who was scum. Granted, it doesn't apply to every player but if Kaboose was paying enough attention to Wisdom in those to notice behavioral tells, also forgetting that Wisdom was scum was unlikely. Anyways, I don't suspect Kaboose now. I just think he's a wierd anomaly. I'm more hoping to get a read on your motives and possibly Sthar8's. I'm not sure I'd have said Kaboose was backpedaling. I thought he was making stuff up by referring to Wisdom's meta and got caught on it.
Sthar8's case brought up similar points to mine. Why did you only have an issue with him and not me (was it just the meta-reference of Sthar pushing cases like this in the past as scum)?
It seems like your questions are usually for Pieguy. :/
Your play actually reminds me a little of Pieguy. If I didn't know her whereabouts in this game I'd probably have made that assumption when you said you were an alt.
Face to face I wouldn't need to ask you questions. This is a limitation of the text-based medium. I do not believe we are communicating effectively, so I'd like to establish a baseline for your cognitive development, general empathy, and primary motivation. I'd also like to understand any language or cultural barriers. This will help me communicate with you more efficiently and form a more accurate read on your in-game intent.
Why are you focusing on Firebringer? Do you seriously need all that to read him better or do you want to work with him that bad?
It all seems pretty unnecessary. And you didn't ask these questions to anyone else. The game has also been going on for some days, so if you wanted to profile him, why wait until now?
His attitude and approach are disruptive to the game, and attempts to reason with him have been met with dismissal and derision. Do you really not see the point of figuring out how to talk to him without screaming "why are you not listening?!" every third post?
In post 907, sekai no ki wrote:I don't think anyone should be expected to answer personal questions from a stranger on the internet. I'd be pretty creeped out, too.
The only 'personal' question in the lot is asking about his job. And he brought it up first, when he suggested it as evidence that his math couldn't be wrong. Being willing to use it as evidence off the cuff like that suggests that he's comfortable talking about it.
