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[Thor665]

I don't care whether Sinsun is playing "good" I care whether he is playing scummy or not.
Don't waste my time with alignment neutral debate unless you can show that, as town, Sinsun doesn't play like this.

Are you saying I need to do VCA to get you to want to lynch Riabi?
I fail to follow.

[Titus]

For the sake of repeating myself

I think PV Sinsun and if I needed another LG.

Or

Nero Riabli and if I needed another LG.

I like you and Suzune as obvtown. Dave also looks townie.

I don't think LG was copped but you were Thor.

[Thor665]

So, Riabi is in 50% of your scumteams.

To repeat myself - would you support a Riabi lynch today, especially with the awareness that no one besides you appears to support the Pere/Sinsun lynch concept.

[Titus]

I don't care whether Sinsun is playing "good" I care whether he is playing scummy or not.
Don't waste my time with alignment neutral debate unless you can show that, as town, Sinsun doesn't play like this.

Are you saying I need to do VCA to get you to want to lynch Riabi?
I fail to follow.

So basically you're wanting me to use garbage meta? That's a wifom waste of time. If she did tunnel as town, she could emulate it as scum, particularly if PV artificially narrows the pool. Meta is shit.

I am saying you might be capable of doing a decent VCA and if you do it, most everyone would believe it was town motivated. If I did it, it would be treated as garbage, even with the same results.

[Titus]

So, Riabi is in 50% of your scumteams.

To repeat myself - would you support a Riabi lynch today, especially with the awareness that no one besides you appears to support the Pere/Sinsun lynch concept.

And I say again, I don't care if I am alone. Pere and Sinsun are the smart lynches. The others are reads if those two are dumbass town. I don't support any lynch but those two.

[Titus]

If you're playing percentages, you could argue LG is on all my scum teams.

[Thor665]

So basically you're wanting me to use garbage meta? That's a wifom waste of time. If she did tunnel as town, she could emulate it as scum, particularly if PV artificially narrows the pool. Meta is Smurf.

I agree - your case is not one I will follow - a meta case without meta is also Smurf.

I am saying you might be capable of doing a decent VCA and if you do it, most everyone would believe it was town motivated. If I did it, it would be treated as garbage, even with the same results.

I'm lazy, and have already color coded three things.

[Thor665]

If you're playing percentages, you could argue LG is on all my scum teams.

Riabi has vote support - LG doesn't.

Is this just a "no" from you in a convoluted manner? You are allowed to say "no" it's a yes/no question, after all.

[Titus]

So basically, what do I need to do to show they are scum? Die and flip town? I would rather not.

My answer is clear. The only lynches I support are PV and Sinsun. No one has provided a decent argument for PV being town beyond his claim, which you seem reluctant to prove.

[LittleGumball]

If you're playing percentages, you could argue LG is on all my scum teams.

So why aren't you voting for me?

Do you really think that I'm a teammate with Riabi after the countless times I have voted for him and accused him of being scum? Do you think it's all one big huge elaborate bus plan?

[Thor665]

So basically, what do I need to do to show they are scum? Die and flip town? I would rather not.

Yes, you flipping town would certainly go a long way towards me thinking you are town.
To show that they are scum - for starters, if you think that a meta case on Sinsun is not good...why do you expect me to think that a case of 'he's not scumhunting' remotely looks like a good case? If meta is stopped because he can play like his town self then 'not scumhunting' becomes what he does as town - derp. Also, even if you prove he's not scumhunting that doesn't make him scum though - it just makes him anti-town.
As for Pere - your case on him has changed repeatedly - he was the scum bussing a bit to oust a Doc, now he is scum who double bussed to get town cred. Yeah, your case there is not very impressive, and if you think it is then I don't think we're on the same page about what good scumhunting is.

My answer is clear. The only lynches I support are PV and Sinsun. No one has provided a decent argument for PV being town beyond his claim, which you seem reluctant to prove.

How am I reluctant to prove his claim? I have no power over that beyond maybe that thing about the other town PR - but you've already admitted that if he is scum he basically needs to be aware of the setup in any case, so what would that really prove even if he did explicitly state the role? You are very confusing to me.

Vote: Riabi

@Mod - also, maybe a Riabi replacment or a clarification that he avoided the third prod that he theoretically should have received would be kind of sexy.

[LittleGumball]

So, Riabi is in 50% of your scumteams.

To repeat myself - would you support a Riabi lynch today, especially with the awareness that no one besides you appears to support the Pere/Sinsun lynch concept.

And I say again, I don't care if I am alone. Pere and Sinsun are the smart lynches. The others are reads if those two are dumbass town. I don't support any lynch but those two.

this is all one big mean wrong post


If you're town then why don't you work together with the town instead of opposing every single decent candidate? If everyone switched to Riabi instead of you would you help lynch someone you think could possibly be scum?

[Suzune]

If we are debating Titus's townieness, I think he is town. So personally I do not think that he could be the one lynched today. I know that is what you want Sinsun, but I feel uncertain about it.

-p-edit, everyone decided to post at the same time as me~

[LittleGumball]

post ninja'd and thor is voting riabi already

more pediting no thanks

[Thor665]

@Titus - unless you're claiming a PR. Are you claiming a PR?

I assure you my vote will end up on Pere (or you) if you are. I'm all ears.

[Suzune]

I also support a Raibi lynch, I think it is a good move.

What is the votecount?

p-edit, yes I would also be interested if what you are claiming Titus, because a wise claim might help you case.

[PeregrineV]

Yes, you flipping town would certainly go a long way towards me thinking you are town.

[PeregrineV]

I also support a Raibi lynch, I think it is a good move.

What is the votecount?

p-edit, yes I would also be interested if what you are claiming Titus, because a wise claim might help you case.

i think Monkey said there would be one tonight. (And hopefully a riabi resolution).

[Titus]

@Titus - unless you're claiming a PR. Are you claiming a PR?

I assure you my vote will end up on Pere (or you) if you are. I'm all ears.

I also support a Raibi lynch, I think it is a good move.

What is the votecount?

p-edit, yes I would also be interested if what you are claiming Titus, because a wise claim might help you case.

Me reminding everyone of what I have already claimed (at least I think I have), does nothing to further the point I am making about PV outing the PR first.

If I am the PR, then I'm only helping PV develop what claims are possible by reading my ISO.

If I'm not the PR, then PV has an even smaller amount of people to look through and find the claim.

So *shrug* if you seasoned players missed it, then there's hope scum has as well. If I had a claim that 100% scumfirmed the two of them, you'd bet your ass I would have explicitly fullclaimed by now.

[Sinsun1]

As for Pere - your case on him has changed repeatedly - he was the scum bussing a bit to oust a Doc, now he is scum who double bussed to get town cred. Yeah, your case there is not very impressive, and if you think it is then I don't think we're on the same page about what good scumhunting is.

Come on now, can't forget, his first case on PereV for wanting the mass claim, then he reads PereV as likely town while trying to make a case against myself and now he's back to trying to say we're both scum.

Anyway, since I scum read them both UNVOTE: Titus VOTE: Riabi. Tomorrow we follow my lead on Titus. No more ands ifs or buts from the rest of you lot.

Also Titus, no. Without PereV or I, Kling would have not tree stumped, thus leaving a living voting scum member alive. You did literally NOTHING for that wagon. In fact you tried to stop that wagon from happening. So get out of here with that shit about saying we're not scum hunting. Girl, you have yet to solo a single push. Every scum push that you have been on was also pushed by others who are more confirmed town than you are.

2 votes on Riabi, 3 more, PereV, LG and Suzune, come on peoples, let's get a flip.

[Suzune]

I was waiting for the votecount but yes, I do intend to vote Riabi.

[Sinsun1]

Also, Titus. Claim VT or PR. After you claim, we'll get Nero to claim one as well.

[LittleGumball]

unvote
vote: riabi

[Titus]

@Sinsun,

Suppose I'm town, what are your reads? The whole thing where EVERY SINGLE ONE of your posts has to be a condemnation of me being scum, especially when it's not true, is old. One of my major gripes with you is that you're doing no scumhunting. Perhaps maybe you should take that as a clue to start scumhunting.

[Titus]

Oh and if you think a direct question from my townreads regarding me to claim didn't work, what makes you think my scumread asking that is going to improve the situation?