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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:03 am

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That sounds more like ego than scum

I don't see this fg wagon at all

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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:05 am

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That sounds more like ego than scum

I don't see this fg wagon at all

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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:06 am

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Xay, hammer please.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:13 am

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That's really interesting.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:44 am

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Not really.

There's nothing defend-able about your play in this game.

Sure, some people are giving you the WIFOM "he's so scum that he must be town" pity reads, but shrug.

What's actually interesting is BBT being the strongest proponent of making sure you don't get away with life gamble on d1, only to flip and vote to let you get away with it on d2, but hey, that particular read flip works in your favor, so obviously you don't go around questioning it.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:46 am

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It shows a development of reads.
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:47 am

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What you really mean is that your scum buddy BBT distanced the fuck away from your crazy gambit on d1, and then you convinced him in n1 to just go with it.

But hey, that's none of my business.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:09 am

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Setting up mislynches, this is interesting.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:24 am

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You mean setting up scum lynches.

By definition, I cannot be setting up MISlynches with what I said, because: (If you are town, then it should be immediately apparent to you that) your town flip puts an end to me using above associative tells to lynch BBT.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 6:47 am

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I want you to tell me what was going through your mind when you decided to life gamble.

Because if you're town, there will be two possible scenarios:

Either
A
- you were right, and town finds itself a scum lynch on d1.

OR

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- You were wrong, and town mislynches on d1, and then mislynches you on d2, leaving town in LyLo on d3.


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used when you're
ABSOLUTELY SURE BEYOND ANY SHADOW OF DOUBT
that you are correct in your read.

You should have been utterly
DEVASTATED
by Yuriko town flip. You should have been absolutely crushed, and literally start begging for mercy and forgiveness first post d2.


I don't see any of that.

I don't see a shred of dignity, or even ounce of care of what you have done.

I see zero shame from you for leading a lynch on a town player using such an extreme method.


You are not town.
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:08 am

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I was sure beyond a shadow of a doubt.

When, before now, has anyone ever deliberately misquoted someone to try and get them lynched as town that early in the game without and agenda. Because as far as I was concerned that meant 100% yuri had to be scum because otherwise it was blatantly playing against her win condition.

What use would begging do, we have a game to play and shit has to get done. I fully expected to be lynched, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop doing my duty as town.
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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:09 am

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Explain to me how playing against the town wincon means someone is town.

AGAINST THE TOWN WIN CONDITION.
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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:10 am

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And of course I have no shame over it. As far as I'm concerned until the above question is answered I hold no blame for that misslynch.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:28 am

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Sigh.

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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:36 am

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Your play makes me sick, and old esp is dead.

Against better judgment, I'm going to gamble this game on you being town.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:09 am

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Vote Count 2.3


espeonage (2): Bulbazoor, Flubbernugget,
FakeGod (2): espeonage, BlueBloodedToffee,
Flubbernugget (0):
Bulbazoor (0):
Runner (0):
Xayzeck (0):
BlueBloodedToffee (0):

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (3): Runner, Xayzeck, FakeGod,

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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:45 pm

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dodge.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:39 am

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In post 572, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm feeling the opposite; if Esp was scum do you think he would push FG of all people? There are easier lynches for him to push for 'self-preservation'.

Do you disagree that FG has not been scum hunting? What is your current read on FG?

Is FG a particularly hard lynch to go for? I remember nothing much significant from him D1, except for his read on Bulba. I wouldn't say he hasn't been scumhunting, but given that he's played a pretty reserved D1 I'm not seeing how it isn't a viable lynch for scum espe.

Currently it's a town lean, I honestly haven't paid him much attention
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:44 am

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In post 574, Espeonage wrote:The thing with fakegod's claim of night actions is because he's trying to set himself up as important when at this point in the game, he really isn't.

I don't get it, how does this make him scum?
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:56 am

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In post 588, FakeGod wrote:Sigh.

Unvote

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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:13 am

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In post 576, Flubbernugget wrote:
I don't see this fg wagon at all

VOTE: esp l-1

Is that the only reason for you vote on Esp? If not, elaborate.

In post 579, FakeGod wrote:
What's actually interesting is BBT being the strongest proponent of making sure you don't get away with life gamble on d1, only to flip and vote to let you get away with it on d2, but hey, that particular read flip works in your favor, so obviously you don't go around questioning it.

Taking Esp's bad gambit out of the equation - how are you reading Esp?

In post 584, FakeGod wrote:
Life gambling is one of the
MOST ANTI-TOWN
moves you can make as a town, and it should be
ONLY
used when you're
ABSOLUTELY SURE BEYOND ANY SHADOW OF DOUBT
that you are correct in your read.

You should have been utterly
DEVASTATED
by Yuriko town flip. You should have been absolutely crushed, and literally start begging for mercy and forgiveness first post d2.

Sooooo you're PL'ing Esp then?

In post 588, FakeGod wrote:Sigh.

Unvote

This is interesting. Why the change in read?

In post 591, Runner wrote:dodge.

I'd still lynch this.

In post 592, Xayzeck wrote:
Is FG a particularly hard lynch to go for? I remember nothing much significant from him D1, except for his read on Bulba. I wouldn't say he hasn't been scumhunting, but given that he's played a pretty reserved D1 I'm not seeing how it isn't a viable lynch for scum espe.

Currently it's a town lean, I honestly haven't paid him much attention

I think FG would be the most difficult player to lynch in the game, yes. Right, so you agree that FG has done very little? What he has done is provided theory on D1, sheeped Esp onto Yuriko and then lambasted Esp for using such poor methods to drive through a wagon (a wagon FG was on, no less). I would very much say that FG has done no scum hunting.

I would just love to hear why you're town reading him.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:13 am

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Prodding Bulb and Flubber.
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:31 pm

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Hi. Sorry
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:30 am

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@bbt I don't like his tunnel yesterday and I just see it as a plan to get to 5p lylo
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:36 am

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In post 595, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think FG would be the most difficult player to lynch in the game, yes. Right, so you agree that FG has done very little? What he has done is provided theory on D1, sheeped Esp onto Yuriko and then lambasted Esp for using such poor methods to drive through a wagon (a wagon FG was on, no less). I would very much say that FG has done no scum hunting.

I would just love to hear why you're town reading him.

Yes, I do think he's done very little given how he's chosen to play D1, but I liked his stance on Bulba, which pinged me as town motivated, so that's where I slotted him back in D1. I've seen nothing since D2 that makes me think he is scum.

I don't see the scum motivation with his Esp push today, if you do please show it to me.
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