WiFom City: Don't Trust Titus - GAME OVER


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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:41 am

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In post 1598, Banana Frog wrote:This would be hilarious if both were scum. Also...WTF gumball would you rather have a no lynch? Even if we mislynch here the flip will give us much needed information on wagon compositions, associatives, interactions with them, etc.

I'm fully aware of how important flips are. Idk why you're worried about a no lynch when we still have five ever (seven whole days) to decide on a lynch, so idk why people are voting for people they think are town at this point.
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:43 am

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Gumball's reaction is probably town, regardless of Kling/Gratuitous's alignments.
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:58 am

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Selected musings as I read Klingon's posts:

  • I get why people disliked her early paranoia about Drizxszcxz and their PR but I disagree that it is alignment-indicative
  • 619 is pretty stubborn and/or naive... she really can't see town motivation for what Drizx proposed? Oh please.
  • It occurs to me that except for a mostly-meta case on Elusive, Klingon seems to just be not reading or null-reading every other player well into the part of the game where I'd expect people have at least a few good reads one way or the other
  • 658 is just posturing and BS
  • big reads list in 667 is also BS, exactly the kind of "reads" that are easy to fabricate as scum. All the little comments actually mean nothing and could be said about any player, in any situation, in any game.
  • 795 is a post I mostly skipped over in past readthroughs, but it caught my eye this time. Seems pretty significant but due to mentioning the ongoing game I'm not sure how much leeway I have to examine it in the context of this game. I will just say that parts of this post seem town to me. At this point I start to wonder if Klingon is just low-effort town with apathetic reads but I would like people to examine this post... do they see what I see?
  • Klingon scumreads elusive and votes elusive's replacement, but when goat (who she allegedly scumreads) replaces out she unvotes goat's replacement? Incongruous.
  • I hate playing with players who resort to AtE when they get backed into a corner, ugh


Everything else has already been said elsewhere by others, IMO.

I dunno what to think of Klingon at this point.
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:01 pm

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In post 1601, mastin2 wrote:Gumball's reaction is probably town, regardless of Kling/Gratuitous's alignments.

Doesn't stop it from being irritating. (Even though you're probably wrong.)
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:10 pm

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Vc here when I get home in 3 to 4 hours. Vc request noted. Updated vc will also be provided if significant changes happen by then.

Added at 7:36 PST


Official Vote Count 1.18


Gratuitous
(8): Quoth The Pidgeon, Flubbernugget, Prolapsed Brain, Firebringer, The Blue Blur, Muffin, Bulbazoor, TriforceP
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(8): Atum, PeregrineV, Grib, MaxwellPuckett, mastin2, Banana Frog, Drizzx, singersigner
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(1): pisskop

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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:54 pm

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I don't want Klingon on lynxhed today ;(
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:58 pm

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why not
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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:01 pm

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In post 1603, Prolapsed Brain wrote:
In post 1601, mastin2 wrote:Gumball's reaction is probably town, regardless of Kling/Gratuitous's alignments.

Doesn't stop it from being irritating. (Even though you're probably wrong.)


Now that you're back, any chance for the read-wall you mentioned in #1129?
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:02 pm

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In post 1606, Muffin wrote:why not

Personally not scum reading her
Also I like klingon
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:07 pm

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In post 1607, Gratuitous wrote:
In post 1603, Prolapsed Brain wrote:
In post 1601, mastin2 wrote:Gumball's reaction is probably town, regardless of Kling/Gratuitous's alignments.

Doesn't stop it from being irritating. (Even though you're probably wrong.)


Now that you're back, any chance for the read-wall you mentioned in #1129?


Are you serious?

You have nothing to add? Nothing about Klingon? Nothing about Matsin suggesting you both are possibly scum?

ANYTHING!?
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:15 pm

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Grat is hanging in the towel and doesn't want to give any association tells.

That's what I am seeing.
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:37 pm

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In post 1554, Atum wrote:

(snip)

Anyway, I think Blastoise-guy is town. He sounds towny, like this guy Zenzao from my homesite. I don't like the weird focus on wagons here, especially D1, extra especially such a ridiculously long D1 so I kinda hate most of the reasons people have voted him, which I can't recall specifically, but seem to come generally from a place of apathy, and a lack of regard for 'useless' players. Which is stupid, because every townie is useful in a game where we lose when the population of the town=the scumteam. To me, that's a scummy mindset, but too many people have shown it for it to be alignment indicative.


You've summed up my feeling on this game to a T here about how this game feels compared to my home site. Of course in my last game there I was mechanically proved cop and still got scum-read by a town player so who knows...

In post 1574, The Blue Blur wrote:Its because I sympathize for Kling being wagoned as such and being pissed for it.

It seriously looks like frustrated town than lolidc scum.

In post 1579, The Blue Blur wrote:*Impatiently taps foot*


Yep...

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@TBB #1609: Given that I'm town, and know that Mastin is incorrect with that statement, I don't particularly give it any credence, especially to quote Mastin's own words in #1581 are, "does vaguely support the idea of it being dueling scum-scum wagons."

How exactly do you go from your post above in which you say you think Klingon looks like frustrated town to pushing Mastin's theory of Klingon and I being scum together?

I'm more inclined to believe either your theory (from #1587) that there's one scum between the two of us (though if it is true, you're on the wrong wagon), or Muffin's theory (from #1588) that both of us are town.
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:39 pm

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As for my thoughts on Klingon, I'm going to run an ISO on her either before I go to work tonight, or otherwise tomorrow.
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:51 pm

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In post 1561, Oversoul wrote:
In post 1558, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 1556, Oversoul wrote:I really don't think Kling is scum, but I am willing to vote her just to end this day so I can focus my attention somewhere.


Antitown move.


It is antitown in a vacuum, but this game is stagnating and it is a large so we can soak up an early mislynch.
If you have a power role on the other hand... that is when it gets bad.


Look at Grib.

Has Grib done any scumhunting whatsoever?

Any at all?

No, he's insisting that I'm Scum, but he refuses to give any reason whatsoever.

Because my wagon is Scum-driven and he's one of the Scums.

Town is NOT in a vaccuum. Vote for Grib.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:51 pm

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In post 1610, Firebringer wrote:Grat is hanging in the towel and doesn't want to give any association tells.

That's what I am seeing.

Are you fucking kidding me he left a three post trail after his wagon built up.

You are not paying attention
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:52 pm

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In post 1563, Banana Frog wrote:Guys I’m really sorry but my cat is dying and I can’t focus on anything and I’m really not fit for company right now. Details in the sad thread if you care. I will still be hereish and trying to post as I’m able. I will stay caught up enough to have opinions in the hydra pt at the very least. i’m sorry.

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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:53 pm

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In post 1594, singersigner wrote:I didn't see a vote count. It's hard to look back at these things on my phone.

Preview Edit:
Oh ew, I don't like either of those wagons. :(

vote: Klingon


More of my town reads...maybe less of a shitty options?

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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:53 pm

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I meant to quote plot.
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:55 pm

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In post 1614, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1610, Firebringer wrote:Grat is hanging in the towel and doesn't want to give any association tells.

That's what I am seeing.

Are you fucking kidding me he left a three post trail after his wagon built up.

You are not paying attention

Nope I am not kidding you.

I am too focused on the tunnel.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:55 pm

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In post 1611, Gratuitous wrote:How exactly do you go from your post above in which you say you think Klingon looks like frustrated town to pushing Mastin's theory of Klingon and I being scum together?

Ok...I feel weird coming in defense of TBB, but they are not pushing Mastin's theory that you are both scum. They simply asked you what you think of it.

Whatever. Maybe both these wagons really are scum.
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:56 pm

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In post 1570, Banana Frog wrote:I agree with that. I don't believe this is two wagons on town.

But thos three posts you said were scum Sonic and I both think are town. Grat has no scum motivation to leave such a trail other than trying to survive. But if he was just trying to survive he'd be on Kling right now.

Kling OTOH has stated he won't really participate and vote park on his Grib vanity wagon...which reeks of scum not wanting to leave a trail.


Grib is a much stronger Scum read. It's not a vanity wagon, I'm 100% sure he's Scum.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:56 pm

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Nice misrep Grat. Im glad calling you out made you do something.

Your answers involving self meta are shit and its pretty obvious that someone is probably scum of you two. Im just running hypotheticals of all 3 scenarios. (TT, TS, SS).
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:56 pm

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I'm so confused right now.
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:56 pm

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KLINGON YOURE NOT GETTING GRIB.

VOTE GRAT AND STOP STALLING YOUR (POSSIBLE) SCUMBUDDY.

For fuck sake
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:57 pm

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Exactly what is the case on me, by the way?

I know that there isn't one, I just want to watch Scum stutter.
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