NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Kop]

VOTE: anna

Let's hope the pressure makes her contribute more, and hopefully with more content to provide that she is town not the weak posts she has made.

[Skybird]

Items for the food queue: ice cream sundae, vegetarian dish, roast turkey

[Skybird]

shoot.

@mod - items for food queue in 1326

[SilverWolf]

@mod

-Also, BBQ ribs, fried chicken, corn on the cob, Chef salad, watermelon, lemonaide, French Silk Pie

[Salamence20]

So is anyone going to talk about the ratio of how many wagons we have created today vs the number of claims?

RedFF
Nos
Greyfoxxx
Wake
Ozgin
Anna

Thats alot of wagon switching, which means town is shit (likely), scum keep fucking around (unlikely), or scum are lurking while everyone fucks around (probably)

[Shinobi]

So is anyone going to talk about the ratio of how many wagons we have created today vs the number of claims?

RedFF
Nos
Greyfoxxx
Wake
Ozgin
Anna

Thats alot of wagon switching, which means town is shit (likely), scum keep fucking around (unlikely), or scum are lurking while everyone fucks around (probably)

Then who's mafia?

[SilverWolf]

RedFF - Shinobi, Silverwolf, Quaroath, Salamence20, Creede73, GrayFoxxxx (L-5)
Nosferatu - Wake88, Spiffeh, Annadog40, Creede73 (L-7)

These two wagons are going on together. Red wagon dissipates because people are falsely saying it got to L-1 and therefore he's town (Wake), falsely saying I was scum pushing town (TSO), saying it was a shit wagon and people on it are idiots while also saying they didn't read Red's posts (TSO).

So then what happened to the wagons? I replaced back in and went after TSO. TSO hit Gray for his sheep of me:
T S O - Silverwolf, Lapsa, GrayFoxxxx (L-8)
GrayFoxxxx - Quaroath, T S O (L-9)
RedFF - Salamence20, Mahonster (L-9)

GrayFoxxxx wagon happens:
GrayFoxxxx - Quaroath, T S O, Shinobi, Creede73, Silverwolf, Ozgin (L-5)

Wake wagon gets going:
Wake88 - ika, Salamence20, Quaroath, Kop, Fro99er, GrayFoxxxx (L-5)
GrayFoxxxx - T S O, Creede73, Ozgin, texcat, Spiffeh (L-6)

Ozgin's wagon:
Wake88 - ika, Salamence20, Quaroath, Kop, Fro99er (L-6)
Ozgin - Shinobi, SilverWolf, GrayFoxxxx, Nosferatu (L-7)
GrayFoxxxx - T S O, Creede73, Ozgin, texcat, Spiffeh (L-7)

Anna's wagon picks up steam:
Wake88 - ika, Salamence20, Quaroath, Kop (L-7)
Ozgin - Shinobi, SilverWolf, GrayFoxxxx, Nosferatu, Skybird (L-6)
GrayFoxxxx - T S O, Creede73, Ozgin, texcat, Spiffeh, Annadog40 (L-5)
Annadog40 - RedFF, Mahonster, Fro99er (L-8)

Then later, after Ozgin claims:
GrayFoxxxx - T S O, Creede73, Ozgin, Annadog40, Nosferatu (L-6)
Annadog40 - RedFF, Mahonster, Skybird, GrayFoxxxx, Shinobi, SilverWolf (L-5)


This tells me that GrayFoxxxx would be a good lynch today. Thoughts? Agree? Disagree? I'm not switching my vote right now. I'd like to hear from Anna. But I think GrayFoxxxx would be the best flip D1 based on this.

[GrayFoxxxx]

Why would it be good?

[GrayFoxxxx]

If you lynch TSO tommorow it will be good. But I know that won't happen

[SilverWolf]

How do you know TSO isn't on my suspect list?

Hint: He is.

Info. wise your lynch would be the best IMO. I am asking for feedback on this.

[GrayFoxxxx]

How do you know TSO isn't on my suspect list?

Hint: He is.

Info. wise your lynch would be the best IMO. I am asking for feedback on this.

Ok what will we learn when I flip town? And would it be worth a mislynch?

[Salamence20]

So is anyone going to talk about the ratio of how many wagons we have created today vs the number of claims?

RedFF
Nos
Greyfoxxx
Wake
Ozgin
Anna

Thats alot of wagon switching, which means town is shit (likely), scum keep fucking around (unlikely), or scum are lurking while everyone fucks around (probably)

Then who's mafia?

The people who keep moving are probably town. The ones who either suggest it and didnt follow are mafia.

Thats without doing VCA, which I cant do without flips.

The problem is, we didnt get anyone to claim besides the wolf, which shouldnt have happened. Atleast 1-2 of those guys should have been claimed imo.

[Salamence20]

How do you know TSO isn't on my suspect list?

Hint: He is.

Info. wise your lynch would be the best IMO. I am asking for feedback on this.

Ok what will we learn when I flip town? And would it be worth a mislynch?

What we will learn:
How many mafia teams there are and/or SK
Slight VCA ability
We can judge interactions with the dead and living with flips.

THAT is what we can do with a town flip.

[SilverWolf]

The problem is, we didnt get anyone to claim besides the wolf, which shouldnt have happened. Atleast 1-2 of those guys should have been claimed imo.

Confirmed not reading.

Ozgin claimed Town JOAT and GrayFoxxxx claimed VT a long time ago.

[Shinobi]

So is anyone going to talk about the ratio of how many wagons we have created today vs the number of claims?

RedFF
Nos
Greyfoxxx
Wake
Ozgin
Anna

Thats alot of wagon switching, which means town is shit (likely), scum keep fucking around (unlikely), or scum are lurking while everyone fucks around (probably)

Then who's mafia?

The people who keep moving are probably town.

The ones who either suggest it and didnt follow are mafia.

Thats without doing VCA, which I cant do without flips.

The problem is, we didnt get anyone to claim besides the wolf, which shouldnt have happened. Atleast 1-2 of those guys should have been claimed imo.

Then find the bolded and push on them?

[Shinobi]

Also, yes, there have been like two claims already.

[SilverWolf]

The people who keep moving are probably town. The ones who either suggest it and didnt follow are mafia.

I move my vote around as either alignment. Wagon analysis post flips will help and VCA later in the game after we've had a few flips will help as well regarding how people are voting.

I tend to think scum is lurking hardcore at this point and those people need to be looked at. We can also look at those avoiding wagons like you and Shinobi have suggested. I don't have time to look at all the voting right now.

[GrayFoxxxx]

How do you know TSO isn't on my suspect list?

Hint: He is.

Info. wise your lynch would be the best IMO. I am asking for feedback on this.

Ok what will we learn when I flip town? And would it be worth a mislynch?

What we will learn:
How many mafia teams there are and/or SK
Slight VCA ability
We can judge interactions with the dead and living with flips.

THAT is what we can do with a town flip.

I get what could happen with any lynch. But mine specifically, which players would be cleared, and which would be scum? I don't think there would be an obv answer (maybe, TSO as scum and Wake as town, I strongly doubt TSO will get lynched soon). Is it really worth it just for that? If the town has a different perspective, let me know.

[Salamence20]

Lol we outted the JOAt.

And no, Im not reading. I already said that.

Im trying to provide commentary on the fact this day hs seen too many wagon swaps

[Salamence20]

The people who keep moving are probably town. The ones who either suggest it and didnt follow are mafia.

I move my vote around as either alignment. Wagon analysis post flips will help and VCA later in the game after we've had a few flips will help as well regarding how people are voting.

I tend to think scum is lurking hardcore at this point and those people need to be looked at. We can also look at those avoiding wagons like you and Shinobi have suggested. I don't have time to look at all the voting right now.

Id rather wait and see flips before looking at the wagons, but yeah I agree with you that lurkers are probably scum.

[Shinobi]

Kop and Quaroth are both mega-lurkers.
Those wagons could be fun.

I remember asking Kop a question about why he wanted to lynch Ozgin and he wanted to kill Oz regardless of his alignment. He wasn't really straightforward about it either - he said Oz was either bad town or scum and left it at that.


I can't remember a single thing Q has done this game at all.

[Salamence20]

I believe Q is always scum because Gamblers Fallacy.

[Salamence20]

Kop and Ika are lurkers

[SilverWolf]

Well, Red's a hardcore lurker and I was super annoyed that his wagon dissolved the way it did. People were unvoting and jumping off before he even got a chance to get into the thread and respond to it. Then we have people like TSO and Wake saying we were idiots, the wagon was shit, he was town because I was scum, it's probably on town because it was at L-1(even though I said repeatedly it never got past 7 out of 11 votes). I was frankly very frustrated with that.

[Skybird]

That's a good point Wolfie, the people yelling that Red was at l-1 when he wasn't even close. I think that whole sequence deserves a closer look. Off to look.