Open 606: Near-Vanilla 40k TOWN WINS

[A Simple Plan]

Knowing how Hermit and Ika in particular behave Day One? Yeah, I'd say it was serious. I've seen Ika quick hammer on page 2 to get out of a day one, and Hermit later replaced into a game only to a) not read the thread, and b) lolhammer. There are reasons I don't like their playstyle day one in particular, but Her it definitely isn't someone we want around in LYLO, even if he is town, and based on everything that's happened so far, I'd be willing to label him scum for it.

[ForWhomTheJellyRolls]

Is their alignment indicative of these behaviors? It looks a lot to me like he's trying to rile things up so I interpreted it as a null thing, but I should ask him about it too

@Hermit, are you serious about quickhammering?

Back you Simple Plan, do you think we should policy lynch Hermit for playing anti-town regardless of his alignment because he could be dangerous?

[A Simple Plan]

Realizing its not necessarily scummy to be sassy makes me rethink that Vedith vote by Random a bit.

You have been playing under that account for 2 years, and just now you had the revelation that sassiness isn't scumminess? What influenced you without a flip?

If you'd like to check my profile, you'll see massive periods of inactivity during that time and about a third the number of posts you did. My activity has been in the last three months. If you must know, realizing that my own sassy attitude came from town is proof that it's not scum to me.

P-Edit: It's happened in past games, and I wouldn't be against it here, but more or less it's a warning that while some may not consider it necessarily scummy, it's definitely something to avoid taking into a LYLO situation.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

[quote]Yes this is sketchy because it's never a good thing when someone tries to end the day prematurely but I don't think Constantine is being very serious about it. Are you?

VOTE: A Simple Plan[quote]
This is the scummiest thing posted all game, sorry m8T

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Yes this is sketchy because it's never a good thing when someone tries to end the day prematurely but I don't think Constantine is being very serious about it. Are you?

VOTE: A Simple Plan

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Are you guys still scum reading ASP?

[ForWhomTheJellyRolls]

That's my specialty.

I think ASP is the best bet at hitting scum at the moment. I do want to hear from the slots that are being replaced too.

Are you still scum reading ASP?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Yes, but he is my third choice in my four scum reads as of now.

[Yimmy]

I honestly didn't know you were in this game till you posted lol. How can someone with your name be under radar that much lol

So what I'm reading is you're barely even paying attention to the game.

[Titus]

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

[St Constantine the Hermit]

VOTE: Vedith

He surpassed ASP as scum awhile ago.

[Reubus Swagrid]

1.4

(expired on 2015-08-23 19:30:00)

A Simple Plan- 3 (4nxi3ty, randomidget, ForWhomTheJellyRolls)
The Enigma- 2 (TheWorst, Firebringer)
duppin- 2 (ika, The Enigma)
Firebringer- 2 (juckter, Yimmy)
Vedith- 2 (Titus, St Constantine the Hermit)
randomidget- 1 (A Simple Plan)
juckter- 1 (duppin)
ika- 0
St Constantine the Hermit- 0
4nxi3ty- 0
Yimmy- 0
TheWorst- 0
ForWhomTheJellyRolls- 0
Titus- 0


With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

"An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded"

- Librarian of the Imperium

Vampirate replaces juckter (

To be confirmed

)

[Firebringer]

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

I feel like Vedith gets labelled scum and lynched to early in games, would like to give him more time before I read then properly or push for a lynch.

[Firebringer]

I honestly didn't know you were in this game till you posted lol. How can someone with your name be under radar that much lol

So what I'm reading is you're barely even paying attention to the game.

I pay attention to most posts but I am not perfect.

I don't keep notes of games.
I read the posts and move on.
Sometimes I go back to reread when confused.

So sorry if you feel like I am not trying, cause I am.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

I feel like Vedith gets labelled scum and lynched to early in games, would like to give him more time before I read then properly or push for a lynch

Okay, that slot obviously needs some meta analysis

UNVOTE: Vedith
VOTE: ASP

I was a bit hypocritical because I was arguing that back and forth on D1 is bad, but I took my vote off of the ASP wagon.

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Some tunnel vision: If ASP

is

scum, then I would

FOS

Titus for this post

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

I am getting ahead of myself though

[4nxi3ty]

P-Edit:

you wanna lynch me, Anx? Do it.

And tomorrow, look at Hermit. Look at Random. I don't care which, they're both scummy as hell.

"Do it, see if I care."
"Look how town I am by how much I don't care about being lynched."
"Do it."

"Look at these players tomorrow," is something you say to appear tomorrow, cause that's the standard expected play to make.

I've seen Ika quick hammer on page 2 to get out of a day one, and Hermit later replaced into a game only to a) not read the thread, and b) lolhammer.

Were either ika or hermit town in those games (I'd wouldn't be surprised if they were)?

Cause if you've seen that kind of behaviour before from town, your reaction to it happening in this game is really off. Should be closer to "Hey, everyone be careful about placing L-1 votes, I've seen both ika and Hermit quckhammer before."

The bit about not letting him get to lylo feels excusatory.
And it's more akin to propaganda than to figuring out Hermit's alignment.

[4nxi3ty]

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

titus I hope you're not scum

I hope this post wasn't about attacking Vedith cause you knew Hermit would possibly jump ship

while also shining a bad light on Hermit, ASP's current target

[St Constantine the Hermit]

^ You said it better than I ever could, lol

I almost want to lynch Titus just for that reason. I know that would be a big mistake though if Titus is town, because Titus is a total badass!

[Vedith]

Oi! Get those votes off me!

But seriously, I've been pretty tied up again, sorry.

The question here is - ~What information will we get for lynch ASP for each possibility?
And how will that benefit us more than a lynch on myself?

Although I'm not against an Enigma vote, this wouldn't be the best to go into day 2 with as we will most likely be in the same spot.

@Mod - ASP is voting Hermit, not Random

My concerns are on -

Yimmy - Seems to be focusing just on Firebringer rather than looking throughout the game.
Firebringer - A lot less fluff than in normal games I have seen, more of something to keep an eye on.
ASP wagon - Why would he just be voting for Hermit on 0 votes if he was scum, surely he would be trying to focus on someone else close in lead. I don't think that the reasons for his votes are very justifiable over others at this stage.

@TheWorst - I'm not sure why, but I get a scum feeling from you. I feel that you comments are more of a "I'm here, take this information and let me hide" rather than there to actually help us.
Care to give a read on ASP and Hermit for me?

[Vampirate]

... Can we get off that please? Everything about this discussion screams "let's break the rules".

Please elaborate on this post.

I don't see how the discussion prior to this post screams 'let's break the rules'. Seems a bit much just because people wanted to know more into Firebringer's opinion on duppin.

I honestly don't see the big deal about it, it just so happens that Firebringer couldn't elaborate on why.

[Titus]

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

I feel like Vedith gets labelled scum and lynched to early in games, would like to give him more time before I read then properly or push for a lynch.

Why do you feel that way?

[Titus]

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

titus I hope you're not scum

I hope this post wasn't about attacking Vedith cause you knew Hermit would possibly jump ship

while also shining a bad light on Hermit, ASP's current target

Yeah you're scum. That's a preposterous stretch to say I am attacking someone when I was commenting on the general obliviousness of the game state.

[Yimmy]

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town.

Would you mind telling us why?

Yimmy - Seems to be focusing just on Firebringer rather than looking throughout the game.

woah tunnel vision that is the single scummiest thing i have ever seen

I like Vedith as scum and Druppin as town. Vedith I cannot get a feel for him taking a position anywhere.

VOTE: V

Also how did y'all not notice Hermit asked to lynch Doctor Vahlen who isn't even playing while scumreading him?

titus I hope you're not scum

I hope this post wasn't about attacking Vedith cause you knew Hermit would possibly jump ship

while also shining a bad light on Hermit, ASP's current target

Yeah you're scum. That's a preposterous stretch to say I am attacking someone when I was commenting on the general obliviousness of the game state.

So the general obliviousness of this game warrants a vote?

[Vampirate]

Oh and UNVOTE: UNVOTE: for now.