2016 US Presidential Election Thread

[BROseidon]

I would have to admit, I really don't feel there is a war on women.

Lol

[BROseidon]

I'm guessing Bush's war chest will win out in the end, and then he'll lose to Clinton, possibly with a minority vote if Trump jumps to the Tea Party. Clinton has lots of baggage and scandal is around every corner, but the Clinton's are pretty immune to scandal.

It's not just that, it's also that the republicans all suck and have ideas that are shit

[Venmar]

It's not just that, it's also that the republicans all suck and have ideas that are shit

[Salamence20]

I'm guessing Bush's war chest will win out in the end, and then he'll lose to Clinton, possibly with a minority vote if Trump jumps to the Tea Party. Clinton has lots of baggage and scandal is around every corner, but the Clinton's are pretty immune to scandal.

It's not just that, it's also that the republicans all suck and have ideas that are shit

Bruh

[Cephrir]

Some of them suck less than others, and that inexplicably makes me interested in the proceedings.

[SleepyKrew]

Kasich seems to be least sucky
Jeb seems to be the least sucky viable one
But he's still p sucky

[SleepyKrew]

I'm actually really thankful Kasich exists, even if he's not going to win. American politics is supposed to be "we disagree; let's work together though" but that's been largely absent for as long as I've followed it. Kasich seems like he'd actually try to compromise and stuff.

Or maybe he's just better at hiding the crazy.

[MonkeyMan576]

Liberals aren't all a rainbow of awesomeness.

Specifically when it comes to the economy and national defence.

[quadz08]

wait you mean you don't agree 100% with a major party?

i am utterly shocked by this development - shocked, I tell you

[Cephrir]

Unfortunately, neither party actually understands economics

[SleepyKrew]

Liberals aren't all a rainbow of awesomeness.

Specifically when it comes to the economy and national defence.

I agree; they're not liberal enough.

[Cephrir]

One of my few issues with Mr. Sanders is that a $15 minimum wage is really extreme and we don't actually know what it would do to the economy (anyone who tells you they know is probably lying). Yes, it might accomplish what the movement set out to do. Or it could very well cause equivalent price inflation, resulting in the poor being no better off than before and the middle class getting pwnt.

I think the simple fact that we don't know what such a drastic increase would do (because it's never happened before), in itself, makes it a bad idea. I do support a rise in minimum wage, but that's a *lot*.

Meanwhile, the Republicans still think temporary tax cuts stimulate the economy in a meaningful fashion, and they'll be hopeless until they figure out that they're very inefficient.

[Psyche]

i think they're liberal enough

[MonkeyMan576]

Anything that reduces the role of government is a good thing, including tax cuts.

Obviouisly the robin hood mentality is more popular in the polls, but there's a reason why politicians in general have low approval ratings.

[Cephrir]

Anything that reduces the role of government is a good thing

oh well i guess you won't be needing these police and fire departments then

[Oversoul]

[MonkeyMan576]

Anything that reduces the role of government is a good thing

oh well i guess you won't be needing these police and fire departments then

We can keep those, just not the $18 Trillion debt.

[quadz08]

what do you want to drop then? it's fine and dandy to say "we should spend less" (in fact, I'm pretty sure that statement has near-unanimous agreement across the political spectrum) - the issue is that no one agrees what not to spend money on.

[Sudo_Nym]

wait you mean you don't agree 100% with a major party?

i am utterly shocked by this development - shocked, I tell you

Everybody knows that American political thought is perfectly divided between Democrat and Republican, and every citizen exactly encapsulates the platforms of one of these two parties. If you agree with anything the Democrats do, you are required to agree with everything they ever do, and the same goes for Republicans. Anyone who does not is not a True American, and can be ignored.

[SleepyKrew]

are you saying Donald Trump isn't really American

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm not an economist, so I'm not the best qualified to say specifically, but I would say foriegn aid, national defence, social security, and welfare need to be looked at closer. Sure hard choices need to be made, but if nothing is done, 100 years from now there won't be a United States.

We are paying $800 Billion a year in interest payments, thinjk how many peoiple that could help if we could control our spending and eliminate the debt?

Every family in America operates on a budget, their country should too, imho.

[Cephrir]

Anything that reduces the role of government is a good thing

oh well i guess you won't be needing these police and fire departments then

We can keep those, just not the $18 Trillion debt.

the debt isn't the same as government involvement. i agree with you, but you probably wouldn't like how i would fund paying it off

[Cephrir]

oh maybe you would actually

[MonkeyMan576]

Nothing wrong with disagreement, so no reason to keep your mouth shut.

[hiplop]

I find americans who think their governments have too big a role to be hilarious

you have the most insanely conservative government imaginable, can't get much more barebones