Mini Normal 1707 - Frog Mafia! - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN!

[singersigner]

lol wait I don't know why I thought you replaced ika just kidding!

ok Nosferu or whatever is still scum

also this means you didn't comment on ika becaaaaause...

[notscience]

singer, check the list in display posts by user.

[Malakittens]

wtf is that stuff

[notscience]

I think the up arrows denote something he finds town and the down denote something he finds scummy.

[Malakittens]

i don't really like it.

because its like this xyz is town or scum, but not explaining why.

yeah no

0/10 would not use again.

[MaxwellPuckett]

ika hasn't posted yet. What's your read on him, singer?

Singer, what specifically in that post is bothering you? Or is it just not good enough to overturn your self-proclaimed tunnel on a lurker?

PEDIT: Fair enough, Mala. You could ask about posts where you disagree with what I think. Personally, I don't think my format is any different from someone quoting a post and saying 'this is town' or 'this is scum', a trend that I see in every game on mafiascum, ever. In fact, singer just did that when she quoted my post.

Real-time interaction is a lot more fruitful for me than readups, so I was kind of hoping that list would entice people to ask about my reads.

And, I'm totally using the colours again. WILL probably go back to sentence blurbs about players instead of linking to posts, I guess? Personally I think linking to posts and giving a thumbs up or thumbs down is still better than nothing at all, which I was tempted to do. But I'd already grabbed the post numbers, it would have felt like a waste. I dunno, I do what I want.

[shaddowez]

I didn't like the list at first, then realized the posts were linked and it wasn't so bad.

Maxwell

- why the null read on Sonic when similar posts from other people (BBT and VeeGee specifically) had you downing them?

[singersigner]

It's a very fabricated list that doesn't tell us anything about your thought process.

The fact that I thought it was ika's slot posting should already tell you that I would've scumread that post for it's flashiness instead of actual content regardless of who posted it, and wasn't because of my "self-proclaimed tunnel." That's just showing that your aim was actually to discredit me instead of reading what I'm saying and figuring out my alignment from it.

[MaxwellPuckett]

@shaddowez

I've voted VeeGee.

I would like people to join me.

I wouldn't call this post similar to sonic's, because of tone. To me, it reads like 'I've done my part, let's get going with my lynch', and while I agree with the actual thought to lynch VeeGee, I disagree with BBT appearing to just call the day done and not want to really.. talk about anything else.

Sonic is a weird case because he's one of the players on the playerlist that I've actually played with, and his posting style is often like this, to an annoying degree. I want to engage him directly about his reads and form a proper read based on that. I don't want to let him coast, and I will not, but the behaviour is null for him.

As for VeeGee's 138, it isn't really the fluffy post behaviour that makes me scumread it. It's just an example of many posts where I have no idea what VeeGee is responding to or talking about. Bonus points for VeeGee making a post that attempts to be calling out.. whoever it is he's talking to, but is ultimately extremely pointless.

The only thing VeeGee has to say about zakk's readslist is 'what about me'. 207

Also, 234. How and why is my slot obvious scum, and why have you not voted said 'obvious scum'? I haven't seen you mention Nosferatu before you decided to pitch in on a developing wagon.

PEDIT: Here's some thought process. It came from questions. I'm not gonna clog the thread with every single thought process of mine unless I think it's important or someone asks me about it.

As for the flashiness... were the colours that bad? I like them, they look nicer than a colourless list.

You're right about the tunnel thing, though, that was a mistake on my part, since you did think it was ika posting it. My fault for not putting two and two together, sorry.

[Fro99er]

deadline will be 07:30am USA East Coast time on Tuesday, August 25th. I will update all deadline posts in the morning. I need to sleep now.

VC is updated on top of page 11 and (should be) accurate as of that post. I will have a new picture of FROGS there in the morning.

[ika]

ill prob be able to get to this this afternoon witn a computer

[shaddowez]

Maxwell

- did you start talking to different people in 283, because you lost me if not

[MaxwellPuckett]

shaddowez: Sorry, after the PEDIT I was talking to singersigner. I didn't realize I hadn't actually put her name in there until you pointed it out.

Besides that part, do you agree or disagree that the three fluffy/silly posts (VeeGee's, BBT's, and all of Sonic's posts) are all different from each other?

[zakk]

Singer do you think all of notscience's behavior can be seen as town and I'm just seeing it wrong?

Or do you think he's horribly scummy other than the fact that you have meta on him being like this as town?

And if that's so, what happened to the whole "trying to increase meta for the better" thing? A great many of the things he's done are objectively scummy.

Personally I'd love to see him eat rope.

[AxleGreaser]

Hi, Singer. (if you are at all confused, it might be worth looking up every time(pretty much?) i ever start post with Hi and what its intent is.)

I, I, I, blub blub (picture me blowing bubbles) ....

but zip it. me speaking right now would be bad. So dont ask..
but I'll be back.

Spoiler: Axleised VC

sweet I got my few hours

deadline will be 07:30am USA East Coast time on Tuesday, August 25th. I will update all deadline posts in the morning. I need to sleep now.

VC is updated on top of page 11 and (should be) accurate as of that post. I will have a new picture of FROGS there in the morning.

VOTECOUNT 1.02

• (0)

  Malakittens

  —
  
  
  (0)

  ika

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Metal Sonic

  —
  
  
  (0)

  shaddowez

  —
  
  
  (0)

  AxleGreaser

  —
  
  
  (0)

  BlueBloodedToffee

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Shiro

  —
  
  
  (0)

  Scorpious

  —
  
  
  (0)

  notscience

  —
  
  
  (1+1)

  zakk

  —
  Scorpious Axle(FOS)
  
  (4)

  MaxwellPuckett

  —
  singersigner, notscience, Metal Sonic, Shiro
  
  (2)

  VeeGee

  —
  BlueBloodedToffee, shaddowez
  
  (0)

  singersigner

  —
  
  
  
  (4)

  (NOT VOTING)

  —
  ika, VeeGee, MaxwellPuckett, zakk
  
  (2)

  (FOSING)

  —
  Axlegreaser
  
  (1)

  (NOt Hammering)

  —
  ika, BBT
  
  With
  13

  alive
  , it takes
  7

  votes
  to lynch.
  

Feelin lazy do the VC Data later

BTW I like all pretty formatting, but find it 100% not alignment indicative.
I particularly like to link to ISOs, ... because i can.

[MaxwellPuckett]

zakk, can you point to what is objectively scummy about notscience's posts?

I've thought their play to be pretty protown. I know they had a scumread of you, and I don't remember the current status of that read, but beyond that my memory is not giving me anything and I doubt an ISO would change anything by itself if my initial readthrough of notscience didn't hit my scumdar.

Axle, your posting style is very confusing. Very, very confusing, and cryptic. This is a neutral observation, and I don't really have an opinion on it, game-wise or personally.

[AxleGreaser]

Very, very confusing, and cryptic.

If theres a bit that you think interests you ask.
I am also having fun. (my idea of fun is different to most peoples, as am I.)
Its also easier for town to make the connections than scum as they are reading and thinking.

The last post is especially cryptic. It is possibly meaningless, unless you know what I am thinking,
however later it is place holder that lets me go back and state what I was thinking at that time,
and I expect what I say then to pattern match the imagery of, "I, I, I, blub blub (picture me blowing bubbles) ...."

but zip it. me speaking right now would

be bad

. So dont ask..
but I'll be back.

[Shiro]

@Singer and Notscience

Nos was inactive and the moment someone started pressuring him he replaced out.

I find that kind of thing scummy. it is not as strong of an indication as if he was being pushed hard but it still tick me.

[AxleGreaser]

Do note we haven't played together but I have, for recreation while bored, read rather a lot of your posts lately, right up until quite recently even. mumble mumble. da rulez. mumble mumble.
So I think I have some kind of feel for you.

I think Mala,and Zakk are scum,Singer not so much,that post bothered me but she has gotten better imo. She also seems genuinley excited to make a case she feels strong about. I like that

BBT-looks like clueless town
Notscience-looks like confident town
Axlegreaser- weird way of speaking..almost hard to follow.. town nonetheless

Null on:
Metal Sonic
shaddowez
Veegee
Shiro

do you agree/disagree with any of my other early reads?

As i am a/the prime mover of the Zack push, I agree with that.
Mala made some posts and i thought yeap town, (i suspect my reasoning would only be agreed with by me though.)
but for me its mala 50, so doubt remains.
Some stuff has made me screw up my nose, (so far I have not sat down and really dug, it is the kind of read I need to let mature if I force it, I will get tunneled one way or the other, right or wrong)
No way id want to lynch Mala D1 ahead of Zakk.

but as you have no reasoning in the thread for those its hard to tell. If its only the conclusion or if I also find the way you say you got there plausible too.

I know i am town, Zakk agrees 17 and in some ways I disagree with him, but that is on method. Well unless he put serious meat on why he got town from those, because I am pretty sure I could do those if I was scum. So either he doesnt know that, or he as scum was making up crap to try and shoo me away

Anyway.
As stated BBT we disagree on.

NotScience, yeah that is a plausible assesment.

I have some pretty thin town reads, in among your nulls.

and as i do for instance,
just come out of game with MaxwellPucket where I studied him for feels very very hard, and i played in masquerade with Shiro where I got a hard get, town read.

I feel I have stronger read on Singer than you do, but i have been here in real time thinking what i thought and then seeing how well their play meshed with my real time expectations of what ought get done. You can never get that except by reading in real time. So again your read seems plausible.

I find it important to understand what it is plausible for a person to know, as scum make up their reads, so when reads come out of nowhere I am, rather -_- hmmm about that
As for me read up on anyone, I will put this in perspective My first in game post on MS as is indicated in that post at that time I had read multiple(lots) games by multiple "other site notables". Mala, Singer, are a site notables, I read a game back then with BBT as a noob... even then not entirely clueless (2nd ever game for him).

[AxleGreaser]

A big part of my scumgame is breaking up TvTs an redirecting them on a third townie.

So maybe that's what scum would do in this instance, but I'm not sure they are as calculating as you anticipate.

@NOS

Hi,
Can you show me examples of you breaking up TvTs as a big part of your scum game?
(especially one you are proud of...)
PS. If you cant, that's cool too, but I will have a followup question.

[zakk]

zakk, can you point to what is objectively scummy about notscience's posts?

Have you read my posts? Orrrr

[Fro99er]

ill prob be able to get to this this afternoon witn a computer

since you posted this, I will give you until the end of the afternoon today, which I will use my discretion and call 7pm ET, (6pm CT since I know you are in the central time zone). If there is not a post with game related content by then, I will replace

[ika]

well my internet is back up so i will catch up right now and see where i am

[zakk]

ika you better be town and you better be good at mafia

no pressure

[ika]

ika you better be town and you better be good at mafia

no pressure

im town but i suck most times.

anyway mala/ns/singer are towns. axxel opening gives me sucm vibs. everoyne else is somewhere

VOTE: MS

i got to page 6 and then my eyes glossed fromtrying to read it all so im going with this