Micro 509 - Guyett's Greater Idea Mafia

[Edosurist]

Hey. So I literally didn't get this game thread. I'm on my phone right now but I'll catch up later.

[Edosurist]

As I understand it:
Mick is 67% chance town
Kaboose is 25% town

Why is Kaiser voting the Pope when he's not here?
You guys are all idiots.
I'm pretty sure the entirety of this game is Irish.
What have I gotten myself into?
Willing to vote Kaboose or Kaiser.

VOTE: Kaboose

[Edosurist]

Yah. My scum strategy was to not have the thread in mod's role PM.
It's OK. It had my scum QT so I've been posting there.

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You guys are all idiots.
I'm pretty sure the entirety of this game is Irish.
What have I gotten myself into?

Das racist

Lol. That was not supposed to have been read as one fluid thought.
Although it gets across the same message.

I think I have a better idea.
VOTE: KaiserB

P-Edit:
Thanks!
VOTE: Kaboose

[Edosurist]

Nope. Elf confirmed.

[Edosurist]

How's this make you feel?

Spoiler:

[Edosurist]

I think I got it.

Town Bulletproof.

He needs to be dead.

[Edosurist]

I'm pretty sure I'm the oldest person in this thread.

Not only am I surrounded by the Inglorious Irish Idiots, but you're all novices. Joy.

[Edosurist]

No, it's elitist.
We've already established that I can't be racist, especially since I'm already an oppressed minority.

[Edosurist]

@Draynth
Any take on Kaboose?
Personally, I think he needs to be dead.

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So the mod has told me, in short, stop being racist. There may have been a few choice words tossed in there.

Alas, I shall, from here on out, be a changed man.
I accept all cultures, all religions, and all experience levels.
Even elves. Sorry Kaiser.

[Edosurist]

Hi Mick.

Thoughts on Kaboose?

@Draynth - Oh, so voting no one is much better.

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Assuming you're town, we're all idiots.

Assuming you're scum, though, we're brilliant.

I prefer the latter.

@Kaiser - Why use the whole day if we know exactly what to do right now.

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Seriously though. D1, usually you get no leads and you have to do this stupid RVS stuff.

We have a player in game who has a 25% chance of being town. Odds say he's scum. Odds say we lynch the bastard.

@Draynth - No, votes got reset cuz of the dayvig. And voting Pope is a bad idea. He's not even here to respond.

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@Kaiser
I disagree. Everything we say D1 is pointless. Everything you ever say D1 is pointless.
Until there is a flip, and we see who was resistant to the lynch, who hopped on etc., and get some PR actions (which we KNOW we're going to get, cuz setup), we're gonna flounder and lynch town.
Best play is to lynch the probable scum.

@Kaboose
... Yes. Yes, you are.

[Edosurist]

A Xay vote is just as bad as a Pope vote right now.
Make yourself useful.

[Edosurist]

No, Xay didn't complain about there being "content." He complained about how much fluff posting we're making.
You're pretty blatantly and intentionally misrepping him.

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Seriously. You guys are being idiots.
Lynch Kaboose today cuz we have the information.
Lynch whoever a PR tells us to tomorrow.

It's gotta take a lot to NOT lynch someone who is 75% scum.

I'd love to stick around with you hooligans, but I'll be back in a few hours.

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Essentially it's a dilemma between voting Kaboose because he has a 75% chance of being anti-town, and voting Xay because he doesn't seem like good craic.

>What's craic?
>

Searches google:

>

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Craic

>...

I'd be down to vote EDM. For the thing Kaboose pointed out, of course.

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Edo, while your 156 is actually a good.point, I'd have preferred to hear it from xay first. Now there's a pre written excuse. I didn't actually read it as a complaint about fluff based on the wording, but the point is.moot now that you've provided an excuse.
PEDIT: Yes.

... Sorry I was doing my job. Next time, I'll try not to do it.

And btw I love the fact that you guys both (EDM and Mick) both have your votes on Xay still.

Mick

is

67% town, after all, so here, have fun EDM.
VOTE: EverydayMuffin

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And sorry for saying "both" both both times.

[Edosurist]

I was wondering why the entire game had gone quiet. Then I remembered.
Ireland is GMT+1 right now. I'm at GMT-7.

I find this particularly amusing.

I'll probably post something so you can read it while you enjoy your breakfasts.
Actually, no. This is pretty cut and dry. EDM and Kaboose are scum.

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Oh. My bad. That was Kaiser.

Back to Kaboose.

VOTE: Kaboose

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Ok. In all seriousness, and Kaboose's poor odds aside, I dislike this from Kaiser:

Yeah we're not lynching him now, if we are lynching him today.
We should probably make use of our 13 irl day long day

We do have 13 days left before the day 1 deadline. I think that we should shelf lynching kaboose until we start getting near the deadline then if we have no stronger leads other than a statistically probable scum we can lynch him. And in the meanwhile we can decide who else we think is scum.
UNVOTE:

Why are you so determined to use the entire day?
Would lynching Kaboose not give us information for tomorrow based on who's willing to do what?

VOTE: KaiserB

[Edosurist]

I could roll with Kaboose but I'm kinda paranoid.

1. If he's scum, which he would be statistically, then yay, but of why wouldn't he pick werewolf BP over the rest of the scum BPs?

2. Also, if he's town, we go into D2 with just about nothing read-wise since the push on Kaboose in not based on any alignment indicative posts, it's just based on numbers

Edo, talk to me abt this

1. Because the only bulletproof role worse than the werewolf is the alien lover. Even still, that only leaves 33% chance he's town.

2. Do you not have people currently arguing over that 25% chance? I see those people. I think you can pull alignment indication from there.

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I don't necessarily want to end the day early. I just don't think we should "make use of our 13 irl day long day."
Why spend all that time we don't need to use?

Fair enough.

Vote still stays though.

P-Edit:
Are you kidding me?

[Edosurist]

If someone shoots Kaboose and he doesn't die (talking about a third time here), I'll be inclined to believe that he's town.

If we lynch one of Mick or TIP and they flip scum, the other is conftown.

Odds say one of them is scum.

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ConManMick -

Cop

TheIrishPope -

Vanilla Townie

I prefer Mick's draw.

@Kaboose why do you think both are town? Assuming you're town, I'd hate to see us lose two 67% chance rolls.

[Edosurist]

If there's a town dayvig left, shoot TIP.

@Mick
Pope couldn't be a vigilante. Only dayvigs can take shots during the day.

@All
Why is nobody voting anyone?

[Edosurist]

Maybe we should play this game like people normally play Mafia.
VOTE: Edosurist
I feel you wanting to end the day this early is suspect, trying to cut discussion short for town. You pushed for kaboose's lynch pretty hard, then said we could read people based on who wanted to lynch him and who didn't, without considering the fact that he may be an independent anti-town.

I was going to ask where was I cutting discussion short, but I gotcha.

I actually like this post from Kaiser. He seems understandably frustrated under the circumstances.

VOTE: TheIrishPope

People I'm also willing to vote: Draynth and Kaboose.

[Edosurist]

If someone shoots Kaboose and he doesn't die (talking about a third time here), I'll be inclined to believe that he's town.

Doesn't he have to be town if he survives again?

He could be Alien (highly unlikely) or replicant.

@Mod:

Were replicants a possible role?

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@mod, was that an error on your part?

No

@Mod:

Were replicants a possible role?

No

Oh. Wow. This changes everything.

(Just chiming in to let you all know I'm still here.)
Why would TIP be stupid enough to fake?

[Edosurist]

I prefer it, but I honestly don't care.

It'd actually amuse me if you started calling me Endoperson.

[Edosurist]

I'm with Kaiser and TIP
VOTE: Kaboose
That's L-2.

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@Draynth
What's your take on Kaiser?

[Edosurist]

Jesus Christ are you serious right now.

[Edosurist]

Hey. I'm back.
I'll post something a little later.

[Edosurist]

I got ASP for scum, and Xay has been way too inactive, which naturally makes me suspicious.

I'm willing to buy Draynth's claim cuz of how genuine it was.

I'm also willing to see both Draynth and TIP as town for the first quote chunk and response of 352. Other than that, TIP has just had me confused.

tl;dr - I'm too tired to actually think this through, but thought I should give it some effort. I'll check back tomorrow.

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confused like, you're not sure if he's town or scum, or you think he's town but weird?

I think he's town (67% chance, right?), but the rest of his play is just so nonchalant. I don't think it's scummy. I think it's just a playstyle thing.

[Edosurist]

I'll talk about people in a bit.

This.

[Edosurist]

I feel like these, except for Draynth's, are really arbitrary. Thoughts on ASP?

[Edosurist]

Pope, I hope you realize this could very well be LYLO. It's about time you take this game seriously.

[Edosurist]

ASP - reads?
Xay - reads?
Draynth - reads?

[Edosurist]

Right... tentatively I believe your claim because you said it genuinely.

nice page top guyett ya nerd

I'll talk about people in a bit.

Oh hello forgot about this
What do you guys want me to do

Dray is Town, Xay is Town, never really liked Edos this game
VOTE: Edos

I feel like these, except for Draynth's, are really arbitrary. Thoughts on ASP?

I am taking the game seriously
Why do you think otherwise

No reason.

[Edosurist]

Considering the activity and that we have 6 days,
VOTE: A Simple Plan

[Edosurist]

Ok. May as well massclaim here.

You guys probably want me to go first, yes? (Will wait for a confirmation)

[Edosurist]

I swear you guys are never going to believe me.

[Edosurist]

Not that it mattered. He was basically a named townie.

I, myself am also a VT.

First I was given the choice of Town Seer and Mafia Seer. Of course, we rerolled.

Then, I was given VT and Wild Card. I chose the Wild Card, and guess what I landed...
There is no RNGesus.

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That's why I couldn't find the thread in the PM. It was first in the Town Seer Role PM, but then it got twice buried when I was given a completely new PM as a VT.

[Edosurist]

... Why would you pick ascetic? That's a sucky town role.

I'm the townie. Cult please join with me to win.

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I asked the mod. He says we can draw together, which I'm pretty sure means we can't actually win, but we can prevent a loss.

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Xay, I'm 80% certain you're the cult.
VOTE: Draynth
Please, vote Draynth so we can joint.

[Edosurist]

Seriously. If I were scum, my play would be to vote you.

Town only wins if the Scum gets lynched. Unvote before he gets back online.

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UNVOTE:

[Edosurist]

As cult, Xay would know that he can only joint draw since his last cult buddy is gone, and would be cautious about voting me.
As mafia, Xay would say yolo, not think through what was going on, and try to get any lynch that's not himself.

VOTE: Xayzeck

[Edosurist]

Xay, you need to get on here and convince me why you're the cultist.

[Edosurist]

UNVOTE:

[Edosurist]

SOMEONE COME TALK TO ME

[Edosurist]

No, because one of you could've been a goo, but that goo could've been a cultist instead.

Xay. Don't be stupid.

[Edosurist]

I don't know. Doesn't matter. Tell me, are you the cult?

[Edosurist]

Yes. That's the only way I don't lose.

VOTE: Draynth

[Edosurist]

No, I'm town. You're cult. We joint by killing Draynth. GG.

[Edosurist]

I'm the lone Mafia Goon.

WOOOOOOOO

[Edosurist]

What are you actually?

[Edosurist]

Guyett told me cult and mafia can't joint.
He also told me cult and town joint draw by lynching me.

Your wincon is:
[quote]You win when all players without a Cult wincon are eliminated and at least one Cult-aligned player is still alive (or nothing can prevent the same).[/vote]

I would assume this means when we go to the night phase, I then get my chance to kill you, unless there's something still hidden.

[Edosurist]

So if we lynched you it'd be a draw?

Correct. Unless by joint draw, Guyett actually meant joint win.

[Edosurist]

And btw, I actually chose Town Seer with the first set of cards, then was left a choice between VT and goon. Obviously chose goon.

[Edosurist]

Draynth, had you come and claimed town, I probably would've said I was actually cult trying to draw a town claim.

LYLO was stacked against you, though. I had 2/3 chance to win, and I knew the setup.

[Edosurist]

Also, the play by your fellow townies which put you into this position was a little lackluster.

[Edosurist]

You win some you lost some. We're apparently on opposite streaks here, though.