Mini 1699 - #swag wars: THE empire strikes back (swaggedout)

[Tammy]

A role cop would get back godfather though.

[notscience]

Weird I thought it returnedmiller

huh.

[Tammy]

You are so lucky you have a friend in Tammy. SO lucky. You realize how LUCKY you are that she is misreading you?

This post is bugging me and I don't exactly know why.

[pieguyn]

Rolecop
Backup rolecop
Miller
Vig
Jailkeeper

It doesn't feel right.

I think rolecop, jailkeeper, 2xvig would make sense regardless of whether there's a miller in the setup or not.

I don't think rolecop/jailkeeper by itself makes sense; at least one of {backup, 2xvig} has to be in there too.

I agree all of these roles definitely aren't in the setup.

[Tammy]

Nacho - I realize you're a couple hundred posts behind but when you do get to my question about ffery I really want to talk about your concerns there.

[pieguyn]

ffery

do you think 2251 makes any sense as a reason for Nacho supposedly being paranoid of you here? it felt to me like an entirely arbitrary thing for him to focus on - as if he was faking it.

[Nachomamma8]

What do you think about the pieguy/notsci thing that's been simmering all game and broke out into a conflagration today?

I haven't wanted to and don't want to deal with it. I think notscience has been approaching this game in a way that is very very different from how I'd expect him to approach it as scum. I think that as scum he has reached a point where he's become self-aware and is able to replicate what people find so town about him and that as scum he would be playing to those strengths instead of pushing towards uncharted territory like he has here.

I've gone back and forth on pieguyn a lot because she also is approaching this game pretty differently than from what I'd expect her to as scum, but she hasn't done anything that I couldn't see her faking as scum until recently. And while intellectually I realize that is a dumb reason to scumread someone or be happy with them as a lower tier read and leaving it at that, I haven't wanted to push pie harder because I have no real reason to and thus would be pushing her based on POE and nothing else and I know that she would hate that based on our relationship and it's the type of move that would burn bridges as far as mutual trust goes in this game. It's been my intention to reach out to her wrt the notscience read, but I've just gotten distracted doing other things with my still limited time.

[pieguyn]

I'll probably go through sometime later tonight and explain why I didn't like it in-depth, actually.

[Empire]

DAY 3, VOTECOUNT 9

Oversoul (3)

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RedCoyote, Nachomamma8, implosion

Nachomamma8 (2)

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notscience, pieguyn

notscience (1)

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Oversoul

Not Voting (3)

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Tammy, fferyllt, Wickedestjr

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch! Deadline is on August 29th at 9:40 AM EST or in (expired on 2015-08-29 09:39:56).

Mod Notes - N/A

[notscience]

What do you mean uncharted territory

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho - I realize you're a couple hundred posts behind but when you do get to my question about ffery I really want to talk about your concerns there.

I'd really appreciate the chance to go through things at my own pace. I've been feeling like I'm being pulled in a lot of directions this game and that it's ended up in me responding to a lot of things and not saying what I want to say and playing worse.

[Tammy]

Pieguy
Nacho
Fferyllt

In that order, tell me what you think of Notscience?

This felt like something more likely to come from oversoul town.

[Tammy]

Nacho - I realize you're a couple hundred posts behind but when you do get to my question about ffery I really want to talk about your concerns there.

I'd really appreciate the chance to go through things at my own pace. I've been feeling like I'm being pulled in a lot of directions this game and that it's ended up in me responding to a lot of things and not saying what I want to say and playing worse.

Oh you misread or I wasn't clear. I mean when you get to it; I don't want it to be something you skip over.

[Nachomamma8]

Okay.

[Tammy]

I thought to myself, unless he has a BALLER claim/crumb he is 100% going to be my lynch today. He was the controversial opinion that I eluded too earlier. When I got to his claim, his VIG claim, it was pretty baller. Reminds me of my own types of claims. Placed at the tail end of the day, when putting Anen at L-1 at a time he thought Anen could be lynched. That all seems town motivated.

I don't understand this. You're talking about when Implosion claimed but you're sticking it in day one. I'm confused.

[Tammy]

Oversoul - Did you write Post 2136 after you had caught up completely at that point or was it something you were writing as you were reading along and forming opinions?

[fferyllt]

ffery

do you think 2251 makes any sense as a reason for Nacho supposedly being paranoid of you here? it felt to me like an entirely arbitrary thing for him to focus on - as if he was faking it.

I want to wait until he catches up and we talk before I answer your question.

[pieguyn]

I want to wait until he catches up and we talk before I answer your question.

I was probably going to go through later tonight and make a case on why I didn't like it. if you think it might screw up how you read him, do you want me to withhold doing so until you get a chance to talk with him?

[fferyllt]

Yeah, I'd like you to hold off on the post please. Shouldn't be too long.

[pieguyn]

got it.

[Tammy]

There are some things that I don't like about oversoul's wall and I want to talk to him about it, talk about it in general, but I am out of time for right now. I'll try to get that all down tonight when I get back from pub quiz but if I don't, I will tomorrow as I know I'll have some time at some point.

[Wickedestjr]

Vote: Nacho

(L-2)

Why not claim backup, idk, during the mass claim?

[Wickedestjr]

Ah never mind, I see the explanation. Pretend that question was rhetorical.

Keep reading.

I kept reading and, unless I was skimming you v pie too much, I didn't see an answer...

[Wickedestjr]

/mass claim over

ah, you naive fool...

Yep silly me for thinking mass claim could actually mean something

Not really buying nacho's claim especially insofar as

it can easily be a scum role

. But we'll see what he has to say.

Bolded is a great point.

[notscience]

It was moreso that I think she's townnow so it doesn't really matter.

What she said does make sense.