NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[goodmorning]

If it's one faction. 5-1 or 4-1 would make sense.

3-3 or 2-2-1 would also make sense.

[SilverWolf]

6 scum seems like a lot, but in 185-multiball, there were two teams of 3 scum each and a SK. No vig though.

[Shinobi]

No, finding Town and using PoE to get the Scum is perfectly acceptable.

But TSO isn't Survivor because that's not allowable.

In some/most circumstances, yes.
But not when you've been guiltied. PoE is not enough on its own.

[Fro99er]

And 5 is the most likely number of Scum in this game.

Why is that?

If we're in multiball, which is pretty much a certainty, then 3-3, 4-3, 3-3-1 or 2-2-1 are all possible depending on powers. I've seen all of those.

[Fro99er]

If it's one faction. 5-1 or 4-1 would make sense.

Ok, you're considering an SK as not multiball (or just one scum faction), I gotcha.

[T S O]

If it's multiball then it's extremely likely to be 6. Three on each team. That's how it was in Masquerade and this game looks exactly like Masquerade, to the point where I'm thinking Aero borrowed from it.

But it doesn't really matter because it's all guesswork.

[goodmorning]

Oh,

Vote: TSO

Forgot that.

Yeah, there're a lot of possible permutations but my money is currently on 3p TSO and one other faction.

P-Edit: 5 groupscum in one faction, I mean.
P-P-Edit: I don't think of SK as Scum necessarily.

[SilverWolf]

I usually only used the term multiball with two scumteams.

[T S O]

seriously take your vote off me before I get quickhammered gm

[T S O]

I'm looking for stuff but I can't fucking find stuff I don't like

[goodmorning]

Unvote

I still think you're 3p but if you want to be helpful who am I to stop you?

[T S O]

thank you!

[T S O]

Let me look at my wagon composition.

[T S O]

I don't like Firebringer getting the name of his role incorrect, if he really did. Also, killing Wake was going to automatically throw suspicion on TSO because of their interaction D1. We don't need to turbolynch TSO until everyone has a chance to report things they saw in D1 that might have information on why these 3 were killed.

Like.

Well then god damn, lynch me to so I can prove my role.

Either follow me or lynch me. Don't be stupid.
I don't want excuses, I searched TSO and I told you what I found, I said my role slightly wrong. Sue me.

Like.

How were your results worded?

Like.

As a side note, If this is multiball, you could be a scum cop on the other team. I'll wait until everyone gives their opinions.

This is actually true.

Looks like one death is odd-night vig, one death is scum, and the third????

VOTE: TSO

Vaguely want to call this town because I don't think scum would attempt to fake this level of ignorance.

VLA today into tomorrow and tomorrow most of the day due to, you know, college move in.

Kudos to Fire for catching a scum. I used one investigative role (cop) to discover that Fro99er is town. Tonight, since we lost our town doctor, I'm gonna say that if there is any protective roles left, focus on Firebringer. I'm good for at least one more night, if not two.

VOTE: TSO

Now that your Cop is used up you're essentially a husk, you won't be getting shot anytime soon.

No offense.

UNVOTE:

Like.

[ika]

sigh why are we letting scum spew wifom GM already said (who iirc is on NGR) that survivors are not allowed

[goodmorning]

I'm not in the NRG but I've modded my fair share of Normals and keep up with the guidelines even though I'm not going to mod any more because of the hydra thing.

That said, now I'm debating a lynch or leash.

[T S O]

It seems to make sense that the reason I don't feel people being particularly scummy is because they are lurking.

[T S O]

I'm trying so fucking hard not to yell at gm and ika.

[SilverWolf]

I think there are scum in the lurkers-those barely playing for sure.

GM-how would leashing be helpful here?

[Shinobi]

I'm not in the NRG but I've modded my fair share of Normals and keep up with the guidelines even though I'm not going to mod any more because of the hydra thing.

That said, now I'm debating a lynch or leash.

The hydra thing?

[T S O]

New guidelines.

I am in two minds of whether to say stuff since all this talk about my role irritates me because it's so fucking wrong, but it suits me to not claim since so far I've made the optimal plays with my role and I HOPED GM WOULD SEE WHAT I WAS DOING but never mind.

To clarify, this is not me intending to claim scum, so don't hope for nonsense.

[ika]

but your not town...

you shoudl realize i have played dozens of games on fourms and thouthands of games online with survivor/neutral claims and how many times it has ended up being a scum fakeclaim.

even if you are suvivor i doubt it cus survivor with no addons is like the dumbest thing ever

[SilverWolf]

No, finding Town and using PoE to get the Scum is perfectly acceptable.

Later in the game yes. It's far too easy to put scum in your townpile and having town in your PoE pile without enough info to go on. Especially with the low content posters.

I really want some solid reasons for a person to be scum outside of PoE right now. I will admit I was going to push Firebringer today before his claim or maybe Qua or Mah or maybe Red. And that's because of play, not necessarily PoE.

[T S O]

how can you actually make that post and not realise what I'm saying, ika?

[goodmorning]

I think there are scum in the lurkers-those barely playing for sure.

GM-how would leashing be helpful here?

Leashing TSO? Because he's not Town and not a Survivor and probably able to kill and possibly a 3p or else he'd have selfhammered when I pointed out that he can't be a Survivor.

So, in leashing him, we could net a Scum kill.
Or we could fuck up worse.

One of those.

The hydra thing?

The 'hydrae aren't Normal' thing.

I am in two minds of whether to say stuff since all this talk about my role irritates me because it's so fucking wrong, but it suits me to not claim since so far I've made the optimal plays with my role and I HOPED GM WOULD SEE WHAT I WAS DOING but never mind.

You're not saying what I think you're saying?

Hmmm. If you are saying what I think you're saying then LoL isn't a valid proposition.

Survivor's been non-Normal since before the new guidelines though, if that's what you're trying to imply, which I don't think it is.