NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Aeronaut]

VC 2.4

VoteCount 2.4

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch!

Mod Notes:

OH MICKEY YOU'RE SO FINE YOU'RE SO FINE YOU BLOW MY MIND HEY MICKY

Skybird -

T S O -

Firebringer, Kop, Texcat, RedFF, ika

(L-4)

Ika -

Silverwolf -

Shinobi -

Ozgin -

Texcat -

T S O

(L-8)

Kop -

Fro99er -

Lapsa -

Mahonster -

Goodmorning

(L-8)

Quaroath -

Firebringer -

RedFF -

SilverWolf, Lapsa, Mahonster, Annadog40, Quaroath

(L-4)

Nosferatu -

Annadog40 -

Goodmorning -

Not Voting

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Fro99er, Nosferatu, Skybird, Shinobi, Ozgin

Food Queue -

vegetarian dish, roast turkey, PO-TA-TOES, Southern Biscuits and Gravy Lays Chips, Rocky Mountain Oysters, Conch, Cranberry Sauce

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2015-09-04 00:30:32)

[Shinobi]

I don't actually have any read on red.
Should probably get one now.

[redFF]

VOTE: Redfff

You diverting town from scum.

-Hunting

[redFF]

I'm fine with Red lynch/Tex shot. If one or both of them isn't scum then fuck me, who is?

TSO????

i would encourage people to read this day again, because TSO first claimed fucking survivor, and then was pressured and questioned on it because survivor's are not normal. after realizing that tactic wouldn't work and no one believed him, he then began softclaiming serial killer, and full claimed it in our neighborhood to try and make me and firebringer trust him i guess? EVER SINCE HE WAS CALLED BULLSHIT ON HIS SURVIVOR CLAIM HE HAS BEEN MAKING THINGS UP AS HE GOES ALONG. TSO's best play here is to encourage a leashing because he survives longer. We are without a doubt going to have to lynch him eventually, and he will keep convincing you all to put it off, as he is doing today and will no doubt try to do tomorrow and the day after that.

all the votes on me are bullshit too, there is no case whatsoever.

silverwolf, i'm almost certain you are town, i would encourage you to look at the wagon on me...
lapsa, mahonster, annadog, quaroath and yourself
is that good company? are those players town? lets look at their votes

(and he's been wrong once assuming he shot wake)

bad town guidance

VOTE: redFF

TSO's "scumhunting" is all smokes and mirrors.
that gives slight towncred for texdog and null for his consequent "reads"

and I disliked SwampCat`s reaction.
felt more like helping TSO materializing his SK claim than figuring it out (afaik she ain't in same hood)

not a fan of leaving TSO alive though.
haven't ever seen SK leashing in action, unaware of risks

@lapsa, what exactly is bad town guidance? that looks like the reason for your vote, could you explain more?
also states he's not a fan of leaving TSO alive, yet votes me, starting a counter wagon?

Makes sense like that. (that was 3 sentences though >.>)

Ok, so yeah I'm going to think about my next vote for just a little bit.
TSO should live for now, now I see how there could be some real benefits. We just need to really discuss the vig choices.

For now,
VOTE: RedFF

next to vote is mahonster. this post has a contradiction IN IT, goes from "im going to think about my next vote for just a little bit" to voting me!

VOTE: Redfff

You diverting town from scum.

-Hunting

next up is this shit. what the fuck does that even mean. i'm not diverting town from hunting scum, i'm trying to lynch caught scum/sk!

VOTE: redff posting from phone, but this is the dir ed crooning want to go today. Here or texcat/mah

and then the final vote on my wagon comes from quaroath, who has been very active and not scummy at all this game /sarcasm


Silverwolf i understand that you think i am scum and have for a while (since my first post in fact lol), but take a step back and look at this wagon and just think for a bit. i believe tso is manipulating this whole town to his own ends, and i will not let it happen.

remember, we cannot be sure what TSO's role is until we

lynch him

[Shinobi]

This redFF wagon doesn't really make sense to me.
Where's the case on him, exactly?

[Shinobi]

I even went through his whole filter.
Everything looked fine. I saw no conflict of reads, no inconsistencies, and a bunch of posts with purpose to them.
Someone tell me what I'm supposed to be seeing here?

[redFF]

This redFF wagon doesn't really make sense to me.
Where's the case on him, exactly?

there isn't one, people are sheeping SW because she's town, if TSO flips scum instead of sk i expect a buddy or 2 of his is on my wagon
check the post right above yours for the deets

[goodmorning]

you people are so talkative

[Shinobi]

you people are so talkative

I'm being amazingly active by my own standards.
I think I've posted and done things almost every single day. This whole "cut down on number of games at once" thing I'm trying is working wonders for the amount of effort I put into games.

This redFF wagon doesn't really make sense to me.
Where's the case on him, exactly?

there isn't one, people are sheeping SW because she's town, if TSO flips scum instead of sk i expect a buddy or 2 of his is on my wagon
check the post right above yours for the deets

I had reasons to both like and dislike that post.
Who is scum, exactly?

[redFF]

Actually what I said was to keep people from bringing it up.

I'm cool with my vote.

no one even asked or was worrying about the damn penthouse lol, until you made this post

Don't worry about the Penthouse. Just leave it off the list. Trust me on that one.

i believe you are town so i won't question it anymore but i feel it was pointless to say something like this if you're just gonna call anyone who asks you about it scum.

[redFF]

I had reasons to both like and dislike that post.
Who is scum, exactly?

ive kind of been caught up on pushing tso so i haven't been thinking about this too much but mahonster annadog and kop are my strong scumreads rn

who do you think is scum shinobi?

[Shinobi]

I had reasons to both like and dislike that post.
Who is scum, exactly?

ive kind of been caught up on pushing tso so i haven't been thinking about this too much but mahonster annadog and kop are my strong scumreads rn

who do you think is scum shinobi?

At one point or another today, I've listed:
Kop.
Mahonster.
I could easily see a world where anna is scum as well, so no argument there.

I'm a fan of your list, tbh.

[redFF]

cool cool cool

you should vote tso

[Shinobi]

VOTE: TSO
Can do.

[redFF]

nice

[Mahonster]

Red, I didn't contradict myself.

What I meant was that I needed to think about who I'm voting for today.
However in the meantime, I am voting you. We'll see if that changes, with recent activity it probably won't.

[redFF]

Red, I didn't contradict myself.

What I meant was that I needed to think about who I'm voting for today.
However in the meantime, I am voting you. We'll see if that changes, with recent activity it probably won't.

why are you voting me

[Mahonster]

Your 2353 doesn't sit well with me. It looks like OMGUS and feels like Ad Hominem.
Diverting from scumhunting aka "Just going for the already confscum and nothing else". TSO isn't the only thing that exists today. Let's get past just him.
Usually when people attack me and they only put up bad reasons like "lol minor contradiction in this post, that's it!", that only confirms for me that they're scum and that I should look further into them.

TSO is going to play to his wincon until hes dead.

he is either mafia or sk

i am actually inclined to say he us mafia and we have multiball tbh, because of the way he claimed survivor before full claiming sk to our hood, which seemed very manipulative. also the way he led the lynch on gray, a useless player and an easy lynch, seems more scum motivated than the play of a serial killer.

if firebringer had investigated him and gotten the result serial killer then this would be a different conversation.

there is no way to know unless we lynch tso

You seem pretty determined on getting TSO lynched. I used to be in the same boat sure, but that's used to. Have you even read any of the discussion about him beyond the SK claim? Also I don't know if this has

crossed your mind

at all, but scum would probably want what is essentially a town-vig gone.

And I've changed my mind on TSOs hood being all scum. I forgot about the Firebringer claim. It doesn't go exactly with the thought I had about your hood earlier, but there's actually every chance you are part of a hood that is Cop/SK/Scum. I would call that likely right now.

she shouldn't have said something if she didn't want to be asked about it

And this. You and Shinobi both on this.
You apparently missed the entire point of the "just trust me part". It's not supposed to be discussed because hey guess what that's anti-town.

[Firebringer]

So you think Redf is scum?

Btw anyone have thoughts who I should investigate? I am kind of indecisive right now.

[Lapsa]

@lapsa, what exactly is bad town guidance? that looks like the reason for your vote, could you explain more?
also states he's not a fan of leaving TSO alive, yet votes me, starting a counter wagon?

you posted as if TSO was directed N1 by town:

if he's sk he is likely to kill another town player tonight, there are more town players than scum players (and he's been wrong once assuming he shot wake)

no, it's not. I'm just sheeping SilverWolf. I feel information deprived being hoodless.

UNVOTE:

[Lapsa]

Also I don't know if this has crossed your mind at all, but scum would probably want what is essentially a town-vig gone.

#2283

[Lapsa]

you people are so talkative

thank you, SwampCat

[Lapsa]

VOTE: goodmorning

[Annadog40]

i'm not diverting town from hunting scum, i'm trying to lynch caught scum/sk!

Just pointing out the caught sk/scum all day doesn't help catch other scum.

[Shinobi]

You apparently missed the entire point of the "just trust me part". It's not supposed to be discussed because hey guess what that's anti-town.

No, that's not how this game works. You don't get to not explain your reads and call people out for asking you why by saying "that's anti-town."

VOTE: goodmorning

Why?

i'm not diverting town from hunting scum, i'm trying to lynch caught scum/sk!

Just pointing out the caught sk/scum all day doesn't help catch other scum.

This reads like an excuse to vote red tbh.