NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

Nosferatu · Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:27 am

Boon was lurking in D1 along with texts, and ika isn't really doing much either. Heck, I'm not even doing that much.

Nosferatu · Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:28 am

Rip autocorrect texts = texcat

Shinobi · Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:30 am

In post 2400, Nosferatu wrote:Boon was lurking in D1 along with texts, and ika isn't really doing much either. Heck, I'm not even doing that much.

Boon has examples of being lurky as town + he was actually kinda towny in my neighborhood. That, and, you know, he died and flipped town.
A bunch of other people called ika town early on and I'm inclined to agree - it's enough to spare him over genuinely useless people like Kop.
I explained my read on tex already.

You aren't really that useless, either.

ika · Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:31 am

check SW

Nosferatu · Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:31 am

So why is Kop useless?

Nosferatu · Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:34 am

Citations would be nice btw

Shinobi · Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:36 am

In post 2403, ika wrote:check SW

No lol.

Nosferatu wrote:So why is Kop useless?

Seriously?
He has no reads rofl.

Nosferatu · Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:41 am

Just cause he hasn't put it in a pretty list for ease of access doesn't mean he doesn't have any.

Annadog40 · Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:43 am

Why do you specifically think Kop is useless?

Nosferatu · Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:43 am

I also don't think having no read list = useless.

Shinobi · Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:48 am

In post 2407, Nosferatu wrote:Just cause he hasn't put it in a pretty list for ease of access doesn't mean he doesn't have any.

Yes and no.
The reality of it is that he did very little on day 1, the most pivotal thing being a vote on Boon that was never followed up on. He came up with it under pressure and then, as soon as people left him alone, he stopped caring about his lynch.
Two of his scumreads died and flipped town and he hasn't reanalyzed anything after the fact. At best, you can argue he has a scumread on anna but, realistically, what is he doing to move towards that lynch/develop his perception of the game?

Annadog40 wrote:Why do you specifically think Kop is useless?

Because he has no reads.

At best, he has maybe one, which isn't enough at this stage.

Shinobi · Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:49 am

This is the part of mafia that always annoys me: when people start defending someone who doesn't play/doesn't care.

Nosferatu · Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:53 am

I'm not defending him, I'm curious.

Nosferatu · Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:54 am

Note how I don't justify any of his acts, I only inquire why him specifically.

Shinobi · Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:54 am

Fair enough, I suppose.

SilverWolf · Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:55 am

In post 2411, Shinobi wrote:This is the part of mafia that always annoys me: when people start defending someone who doesn't play/doesn't care.

Why do people always defend ika and boon and write them off as town and let them get away with doing nothing in a game?

Kop's ISO looks better a few here. Not sure why he's scummier than them.

Shinobi · Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:58 am

In post 2415, SilverWolf wrote:
In post 2411, Shinobi wrote:This is the part of mafia that always annoys me: when people start defending someone who doesn't play/doesn't care.

Why do people always defend ika and boon and write them off as town and let them get away with doing nothing in a game?

Kop's ISO looks better a few here. Not sure why he's scummier than them.

Because boon/ika have a history of doing those things as town and people like lynching mafia.
It's not great reasoning but it's absolutely true and you can't call them scum because of it.

Who does Kop look better than? Aside from the people I've listed.

SilverWolf · Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:08 am

In post 2416, Shinobi wrote:

Who does Kop look better than? Aside from the people I've listed.

Quaroath, Red, Mahonster, Lapsa, texcat- I'm talking about intent and motivation in the posts themselves. I see nothing scummy in but low content. I don't see blind sheeping or filler or anything else off. I mean, you say these others have a meta of low content-tex, ika, boon but have you looked at Kop? I played with him as a mason in the last Delicious game. This is typical posting style of his.

That said-he needs to get in here and post more and give reads and opinions.

Kop · Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:12 am

I'd like to lynch TSO I don't care about leaching him. We either do it now or we don't do it at all.

At the end of the day there is no guarantees that he is going to shoot who we choose for him, he knows he is going to die at some point or another so what does he have to lose? And by removing him removes all doubts about his claim, at the end of the day scum will want to kill him before he has a chance to kill anyone and then if he doesn't die, your still going to have doubts still which is going to provide more distractions that is going to prevent us moving forward properly.

My vote stays on TSO I suggest everybody does the same. It can't be a good thing keeping him around.

Kop · Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:13 am

In post 2418, Kop wrote:I'd like to lynch TSO I don't care about leaching him. We either do it now or we don't do it at all.

At the end of the day there is no guarantees that he is going to shoot who we choose for him, he knows he is going to die at some point or another so what does he have to lose? And by removing him removes all doubts about his claim, at the end of the day scum will want to kill him before he has a chance to kill anyone and then if he doesn't die, your still going to have doubts still which is going to provide more distractions that is going to prevent us moving forward properly.

My vote stays on TSO I suggest everybody does the same. It can't be a good thing keeping him around.

Leaching meaning leashing

Kop · Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:15 am

I've been in these games where we can keep the sk in and we provide him his orders, but it doesn't have its good points when the game gets near its climax.

If he is scum he is staying and keeping his scum numbers up, and when it gets near mylo/lylo we can potentially lose the game and if we lynch him then we still could lose the game if we can't work his partner out. (If he is scum).

Nosferatu · Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:38 am

I wanna vote TSO, but it's L-2, there's no point in keeping him of no one wants to leash, but I don't want ika to hammer suddenly...

Nosferatu · Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:38 am

Nvm ika is already voting
VOTE: TSO

T S O · Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:57 am

In post 2394, SilverWolf wrote:VOTE: TSO

Too much of a distraction and I feel like it interferes with my ability to do anything in this game and scum can easily hide behind it.

Please don't succumb to the pressure of people telling you to make the wrong play.

In post 2418, Kop wrote:I'd like to lynch TSO I don't care about leaching him. We either do it now or we don't do it at all.

At the end of the day there is no guarantees that he is going to shoot who we choose for him, he knows he is going to die at some point or another so what does he have to lose? And by removing him removes all doubts about his claim, at the end of the day scum will want to kill him before he has a chance to kill anyone and then if he doesn't die, your still going to have doubts still which is going to provide more distractions that is going to prevent us moving forward properly.

My vote stays on TSO I suggest everybody does the same. It can't be a good thing keeping him around.

This whole post is full of stuff I already fucking addressed. Every single point. Every. single. point.

T S O · Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:02 am

To people who are hiding behind the suggestion that I am groupscum: if I was scum, I would outrightly have claimed SK. I would not have claimed Survivor. When I claimed Survivor it was because I

didn't

want to claim SK. To people who say I didn't know Survivor wasn't allowed - I have played a lot more games than you and I've read the fucking guidelines too, as well as playing in many, many Normals. I know what's allowed and what isn't.