Mini 1709: Radjarok: Game over!

[havingfitz]

vijay...why are you flying to Boston?

I've caught up on the game and have no reads of significance. Could be in part due to fatigue. Past my bedtime.

Not in RVS anymore though so....

UNVOTE:

[vijay2vasandani]

I study there now. Also I know you havingfitz. Also stupid flight delays

[SamX]

Sorry. I work full-time, 8 hours a day, 6 days a week. I don't have the most time to follow up every 2-3 hours. I usually post at night or (rarely) in the morning.

[SamX]

The answer to your question: Not sure, really. I'm usually sorta active.

YOUR AVATAR IS COOL

One more post before I give a more-serious post.

I take this back. It's annoying as fuck.

[SamX]

A specific reason.

As for Trivium's question, I agree with Hopkirk that it is a pointless question and have no intention of answering it.

I'd like to know what the specific reason is.

For now I will UNVOTE: and leave it like that until I have a strong read, and here's 2 reasons why.
1. We're 6 pages in. I haven't played enough Mafia to be a veteran, but I've played 2 rounds in my entire life, and I think we're out of RVS...? (Please tell me if I'm wrong)

2. I find that 2 of these 6 pages are a conversation between Hopkirk and Haschel about some game they've played in or something, and the first 2 are RVS and commenting on people's existence and avatars. There are 2 pages of weak reads or reads that don't really give content and are being posted for the sake of keeping face by staying active in the discussions (no offense). I can't come up with a read with this but I will try to come up with quality reasons for whomever I choose to vote, and/or whomever I choose to not.

[Accountant]

Vijay, why do you think texcat is a possible vote? I still don't like the vibes he's giving off, he seems to be deflecting more than anything after calling for "moar votes" twice.

Huh? That wasn't me calling for moar votes.

"He" refers to Vijay.

SamX is waffling, there's definitely enough content to slap at least a vote down somewhere. A vote is a townie's best weapon during the day and he's choosing not to use it.

I'd like to hear some solid content from Sam especially given his low activity earlier. What makes me even more suspicious is the fact that he waffled AFTER receiving pressure for being quiet.

Vijay, can I ask you to lay out a full case against VeeGee, preferably with quotes? You seem invested in attacking him. I think we can get a lot of stuff out of Vee, but its been short snippets so far. Would be great if you could lay everything out in the open and we'll see what we can get. This is especially useful because a lot of people have strong reads on you.

[Accountant]

vijay...why are you flying to Boston?

I've caught up on the game and have no reads of significance. Could be in part due to fatigue. Past my bedtime.

Not in RVS anymore though so....

UNVOTE:

Note: this stinks of active lurking.

[Radja]

DAY 1, VOTECOUNT 4

Trivium (2)

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Hopkirk, Trivium

SamX (2)

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Haschel Cedricson, stoz

vijay2vasandani (2)

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Klingoncelt, Accountant

texcat (1)

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vijay2vasandani

stoz (1)

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gob

Hopkirk (1)

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Dessew

gob (1)

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texcat

Not Voting (3)

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VeeGee, havingfitz, SamX

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch! Deadline is on September 5th at 08:00 PM(GMT+1) or in (expired on 2015-09-05 08:00:00).

Mod Notes - None

[vijay2vasandani]

Below are all my posts concerning VeeGee (in spoiler)

Spoiler: VeeGee

Hallos.
VOTE: stoz
For remembering that game






Also OMGUS.

The answer to your question: Not sure, really. I'm usually sorta active.

....but, they could also lie about not being active, so they CAN lurk unnoticed.

Oh jeez, now that we're out of RVS (as far as I'm aware), I should unvote stoz in case a huuuge wagon suddenly appears on him.


UNVOTE: Stoz

okay. you should probably also do something about this though. (lol maybe your third post was about yourself?)

Oh also, be for I go, I should mention that gob says that VeeGee is scum in his reads post. I don't know if his vote is there though, which could be an issue.

Also after I asked for a serious vote, VeeGee picks texcat, retracts it and then leaves it at that. Stop doing the bare minimum scum and at least look like you're scumhunting.

I'm good with texcat and VeeGee votes.

Are you saying that I should either, A: Keep voting texcat, even though I had no reason to, or B: Vote someone random?


I'm not doing either.

No, I'm saying that a vote is the only thing townies have during the day to win. You're not using it, which is a waste of town's populationalready minimal resources. Get some reads and.put a vote down.

Also saying something feels off and then not voting/acting on it is a scummy. Town needs to actively scumhunt, not just sit around wasting time.

Stoz is the right about VeeGee

Now, the summary on my thoughts regarding VeeGee has to do with the fact that he posted a random vote, says he's usually active, then says that since we're out of RVS he should unvote. There's a huge problem with this. What is it, you ask? He isn't doing anything. The entire town needs to work together towards lynching scum. How is unvoting a random vote and then

NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH YOUR VOTE AFTERWARD

helping us. That's my main issue.

Making matters worse is the fact that after I point out that he's not scumhunting ("you should probably do something about this"), he votes the guy i'm voting (totally fine, think he might be scum), and then unvotes (also fine, since he can have his own opinion). But once again, the same issue pops up. What does he do after he unvotes? Nothing. Sure he talks and fluffs, but where the fuck is his vote. Like i said in 124 "a vote is the only thing townies have during the day to win. You're not using it, which is a waste of town's populationalready minimal resources. Get some reads and.put a vote down" (wow that autocorrected population wtf). What's even worse is that he seems to have a scumread (or at least hints that he finds scummy things) but does not vote to back it up.

Now hush up Accountant and vote him already.

SamX and Havingfitz are guilty of the same thing. Kinda scummy, at best bad-for-town. Trivium is still voting himself

[vijay2vasandani]

well fuck, screwed up that spoiler. I don't know if this is allowed but fixing it would be appreciated Radja.

fixed that for you. Was this what you were trying to do? Use the "spoiler=" button for this. - Radja

[Accountant]

Just did a reread(thanks Vijay) and post 116 really feels scummy as hell to me. That looks a lot like an intentional misunderstanding, and according to the latest vote count there's no votes on VeeGee.

VOTE: VeeGee

[vijay2vasandani]

VeeGee or Texcat, will vote either. Both are scum in my opinion. Might do some relational analysis if I feel like it and see what comes up.

VOTE: VeeGee

Oh and cheers radja, you're a legend

[stoz]

SamX, if you can't find any scum right now, is there anyone that stands out as likely to not be scum? You haven't done anything to convince me my vote is misplaced.

I'm pondering your case against VeeGee, vijay.

gob, I noticed you've still got your random vote on me. Is there somewhere it could be better placed?

[Dessew]

Sheesh, guys.

First of all, let's not get carried away, gob's list has three reads in total, Haschel, Hopkirk & Trivium.

Secondly, I see that many of you struggle with BBCode, so here are a few tags. It'd absolutely lovely if you could use them for the sake of readability:
[ post ] tag: This is how I refer to this post. (I originally wrote post=138.)
[ quote ] tag:

Don't forget about the quotemarks after the equality sign.

[ url ] tag: Lo, a comprehensive guide on how to scumhunt.
You can quote this post to see how to implement these tags.

[Dessew]

Apparently the post link in 138 (^that post) does not work, sorry.

[Accountant]

Dessew, what are your thoughts? Are you still planting your vote on Hopkirk? Because I don't see him as very suspicious.

[gob]

SamX, if you can't find any scum right now, is there anyone that stands out as likely to not be scum? You haven't done anything to convince me my vote is misplaced.

I'm pondering your case against VeeGee, vijay.

gob, I noticed you've still got your random vote on me. Is there somewhere it could be better placed?

No.

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Anyway, i play on other forums, but even if you read my newbie game, my early game reads were actually perfect ROFL. Welcome SamX

[vijay2vasandani]

Still not over the fact that we have an idiot voting themselves. Has he just not posted or something? Like what the hell.

Also gob, one game? Lol

[gob]

I play on other forums.

Anyway, me saying my reads were on point was just me stroking my ego lmfao.
I do consider myself to have excellent reads however.

UNVOTE:

[Accountant]

I read over newbie 1632, which I believe was the game gob was referring to. You will note that he quickhammered nachomamma the VT on day 1, and was subsequently lynched on D2.

[gob]

I read over newbie 1632, which I believe was the game gob was referring to. You will note that he quickhammered nachomamma the VT on day 1, and was subsequently lynched on D2.

shit game.

But if you checked my reads, like i stated, you would know that my reads were correct.

Also the quickhammer was a mistake, its why im cautious to vote. I still every time i read the game.

[Hopkirk]

UNVOTE: UNVOTE:

Looks like the Scums are Gob, VeeGee, and Vijay2vasandani.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Vijay2vasandani

I like this since these were the 3 people i was/am scumreading at the moment.
Why did you pick vijay of those three?

Klingoncelt is rubbing me the wrong way at the moment, what with a lack of content followed up by a naked vote. Klingon, care to justify?

I don't make large posts.

Gob comes in out of nowhere and makes a weak reads list partially based on post counts. On page 4.

And as Hopkirk pointed out, the exchange between VeeGee and Vijay looks like 2 Scums with no Daychat.

To confirm: Last time i played with klingon she didn't make large posts as (innocent child) town.

[Hopkirk]

I like Accountant. Tone sounds town, actually doing stuff, nothing really strikes me as off.

Gob:

8. vijay2vasandani - Though inactive he is definitely giving me the "i really wish i werent here right now" vibe. To me it seems like he is just forcing himself to play yet another game of mafia.

I'm not getting this vibe at all. Vijay has been acting fairly aggressive so far, calling for votes on Haschel and then turning around and voting someone else. I think he's scummy, specifically because he seems eager to kickstart bandwagons, which became clear after the (IMO) silly texcat wagon.

Klingoncelt is rubbing me the wrong way at the moment, what with a lack of content followed up by a naked vote. Klingon, care to justify?

Right now I think the best option is to vote either SamX or Vijay. Given that SamX is an easy wagon at any time due to inactivity I would rather vote Vijay.

Townreads: Haschel, gob, stoz. Would be very interested in seeing Haschel's reads list.

Will do a roster run once I get access to a computer.

Could you explain the gob townread?

Vijay, why do you think texcat is a possible vote? I still don't like the vibes he's giving off, he seems to be deflecting more than anything after calling for "moar votes" twice.

Huh? That wasn't me calling for moar votes.

"He" refers to Vijay.

SamX is waffling, there's definitely enough content to slap at least a vote down somewhere. A vote is a townie's best weapon during the day and he's choosing not to use it.

I'd like to hear some solid content from Sam especially given his low activity earlier. What makes me even more suspicious is the fact that he waffled AFTER receiving pressure for being quiet.

Vijay, can I ask you to lay out a full case against VeeGee, preferably with quotes? You seem invested in attacking him. I think we can get a lot of stuff out of Vee, but its been short snippets so far. Would be great if you could lay everything out in the open and we'll see what we can get. This is especially useful because a lot of people have strong reads on you.

vijay...why are you flying to Boston?

I've caught up on the game and have no reads of significance. Could be in part due to fatigue. Past my bedtime.

Not in RVS anymore though so....

UNVOTE:

Note: this stinks of active lurking.

You mention havingfitz and samx as lurking, how are these really different to trivium and dessew?

[Hopkirk]

A specific reason.

As for Trivium's question, I agree with Hopkirk that it is a pointless question and have no intention of answering it.

I'd like to know what the specific reason is.

For now I will UNVOTE: and leave it like that until I have a strong read, and here's 2 reasons why.
1. We're 6 pages in. I haven't played enough Mafia to be a veteran, but I've played 2 rounds in my entire life, and I think we're out of RVS...? (Please tell me if I'm wrong)

2. I find that 2 of these 6 pages are a conversation between Hopkirk and Haschel about some game they've played in or something, and the first 2 are RVS and commenting on people's existence and avatars. There are 2 pages of weak reads or reads that don't really give content and are being posted for the sake of keeping face by staying active in the discussions (no offense). I can't come up with a read with this but I will try to come up with quality reasons for whomever I choose to vote, and/or whomever I choose to not.

You say that there isn't really anything for you to comment on (which i disagree with) because nothing has happened. You are not trying to make anything happen contentwise. Could you explain this?

[Hopkirk]

Nope. Might be scum though.

He literally just said he does not know why Haschel. Dunno why you're being so cagey over a random vote.

He didn't literally say that, he said that he didn't recognize my avatar and that he felt sad.

Okayyyy. Moar votes on this guy please.

I don't like the tone of these posts, however.

Are you saying that I should either, A: Keep voting texcat, even though I had no reason to, or B: Vote someone random?


I'm not doing either.

Could you clarify your read on Vijay? It sounds like he's a scumread of yours, but you aren't voting him and you specified you weren't fosing him.