Mini 1706 - Pula Mafia (over)

[Radja]

Lalendra, what's your case on Mala exactly? You claim you had a scum read on him on day 1, but I can't find any reference to it.

[Radja]

*her

[Maxous]

I feel elusive should of just been hammered tbqh
she's doing nothing but raging against the machine

[Radja]

Not feeling the same way.

Banakai Aug 12, 01:40am Aug 17, 09:15pm 5 days 15 hours 13

Can we get a prod here please.

[Bellaphant]

@Lel, sorry, I thought I'd posted a follow-up post to my numbers, but nope.


If we look at Scorpy's interactions with those who flipped town, especially the grib slot, they turn into a stream of negative interactions from Scorpy (+ is a positive interaction, - is a negative one, = is null and v/uv are un/voting). I don't think Scorpy would've pushed any of his buddies that hard: so we look at who else he's got a stream of negative interactions with: you, catboi, atum. Catboi has claimed town, so that makes me think that maybe you and Atum are also town - which is interesting, because like mala I was concerned about you.

What is also interesting is the people Scorp basically ignores: super and radja are only mentioned in passing once. I dunno if this was distancing.

However, catboi said scorp ignored elu: this is incorrect, as she was the third most interacted slot from scorp. There were also hardly any negative interactions. Scorp did buddy a bit, but that seems really off to me. I also didn't like that she threw out grey as being as low in content as Scorp when that wagon was building

Enough that elu should prolly be back at l-1.

VOTE: elu

@radja, could really do with some content from you. Why are you asking about mala?

[Radja]

Ughh, Mala was looking scummy to me too, but then so was Foxx, so now I'm just not sure what to think. EVERYTHING I KNOW IS A LIE

Because of this.

Mala was looking scummy to me too. But no mention of Mala before this. I'm actually townreading Mala, so I find this post by Lalendra a bit fishy.

I'm not feeling the elusive wagon at all. Her interactions and defense feel kind of towny to me.

[Radja]

The "Mala was looking scummy to me too" in the second line, refers to the quote, obviously

[superbowl9]

I'm not feeling the elusive wagon at all. Her interactions and defense feel kind of towny to me.

Is it just a gut feeling? Or do you have any actual points to back it up?

[Radja]

mostly gut I suppose.

[superbowl9]

Have any other suggestions on who to lynch?
Cause right now it's elusive for me.

[Radja]

I'm still waiting for Lalendra to answer
And for Banakai to do anything at this point.

[Loranthaceae]

Spoiler: source code

VC#2.03

superbowl9 (0)

Banakai*(0)

Malakittens*(1)

Atum

Radja (0)

elusive (5)

superbowl9, catboi, Maxous, Lalendra, Bellaphant

Bellaphant (0)

catboi (0)

Lalendra (0)

Maxous (0)

Atum*(0)

Not Voting

- Malakittens, Banakai, Radja, elusive, Bellaphant

#386-#461: 03-06 01-06 13-03 09-06 11-06 10-06 07-06

*=prod

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

Replacing Banakai; deadline frozen at 5 days 3 hours

[Lalendra]

Lalendra, what's your case on Mala exactly? You claim you had a scum read on him on day 1, but I can't find any reference to it.

You're right, I don't think I mentioned it d1. I was focused on analyzing the miller claim, and once I decided it was legit, lynching Scorp. I typed up all my points against mala during N1 and then fucking lost it all, so I'll type it up again later.

[Lalendra]

Welp, I'm in a lot of games again.

Does that mean you're setting up a pre-emptive excuse to lurk? o_O

VOTE: Grib

Uh okay. <____< remind me later when I'm not hyped up on caffeine if I don't like this post the way I do now then.

Never explained why she didnt like this.

I am really reluctant to lynch the 'weak doc' on d1. Because that is (kinda) super strong, but if it's true that's our protective AND our investigate role it one shot. The miller and the WD CC's each other sadly. So if one flips we can reevaluate the other.

Going against scorp lynch, even though I feel like we were all fairly certain that scorp was scum at that point.

eh fuck it

VOTE: catboi

Voted claimed town role.

Mala/elu why do we have to choose between the two? Haven't they both claimed a town roles?

I can lynch you instead if you like.

Used a threat instead of actually explaining her reasoning.

well tbh i don't exactly like the fact we are risking lynching a pr that's a variant of a doc and a cop in one shot.

i mean feel free to strongarm my lynch D2 if he flips scum, but i'm sure as hell not going to support that lynch

Again trying to push suspicion off of scorp and using his weak-ass claim as an excuse.

VOTE: scorp

because right now i give two fucks about anything.

the DL is coming up and the wagon doesn't want to get off of you

so i really dont give a fuck

ill lynch you over a no lynch anyday,

Finally sheeped his wagon, despite still not being convinced he was scum. If mala really believed his claim, as the earlier posts appear to indicate, this is anti-town at best.

VOTE: elusive

Interactions etc

This vote, with no reasoning whatsoever.

I'm not trying to push a mala wagon over the elusive one, necessarily, as I'm not completely convinced she is scum; I'm just explaining the reasoning for my suspicions.

[catboi]

I don't think voting without a reason is a scumtell from a player who isn't a noob. Honestly I can see having misgivings about those posts but when she's actually explained herself I've liked her reasoning just fine.

[catboi]

So I just checked Banakai and despite not posting in nearly a week he's been very active elsewhere

Completely down to lynch him now

[Lalendra]

Hmm, that's interesting.

Banakai, any defense?

[Malakittens]

My eyes are fucking killing me rn. I'll be here tomorrow ~

[Bellaphant]

Guys, elu has got to l-1 once now and no-ones really reacting to it. This is concerning to me.

[superbowl9]

Guys, elu has got to l-1 once now and no-ones really reacting to it. This is concerning to me.

Why?

[Radja]

Where is everybody?

About the Mala case:
It's pretty weak I think, but since you're not voting her over it, I suppose it's fine. Can you explain how voting Scorp's town role claim is different from voting Catboi's town role claim?

Banakai should get replaced soon. Looking forward to hearing from the replacement.

Bella, concerning in what way??

[superbowl9]

About the Mala case:
It's pretty weak I think, but since you're not voting her over it, I suppose it's fine. Can you explain how voting Scorp's town role claim is different from voting Catboi's town role claim?

1. Scorp's claim was cc'd
2. They were different claims happening at different times and in different contexts
3. Scorp was acting very scummy and there were valid points etc. demonstrating this whereas catboi (iirc) didn't have anyone pushing a case as to why he was scummy for anything other than the claim itself

[Radja]

1. Not at that time.
2. of course they were, that's why I ask how it was different.
3. That's a matter of interpretation. Acting scummy doesn't mean he will flip scum though.

Additionally, why are you answering for Lalendra?

[superbowl9]

I thought about writing this in the post but I didn't know the context of that, just saw it and felt like responding. It didn't really seem like it was directed at any one person

[Lalendra]

About the Mala case:
It's pretty weak I think, but since you're not voting her over it, I suppose it's fine. Can you explain how voting Scorp's town role claim is different from voting Catboi's town role claim?

she made a big deal out of seeming to believe scorp's claim, then wagoned him anyway, which struck me as very odd. Voting catboi also seemed scummy because he was claimed (and at that point I think fairly well accepted) town, but the scorp thing struck me as defending a scum buddy, then busing when it was clear that she wasn't going to be able to stop the wagon.