Micro 521: Desperation (Game Over)

[Flow Alpha]

VOTE: LexTrew

3rd on the Not Voting Wagon means Mafia, obviously.

[Flow Alpha]

Fos Flow Alpha for ninjaing me

Shit, everyone is on to me...

[Flow Alpha]

VOTE: TierShift

OH MY GOD YOU SUCK!!!

[Flow Alpha]

TierShift why are you voting meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Flow Alpha]

Why do you think I'm voting you?

Because you're a meanie!

[Flow Alpha]

Who's your main?

That's for me to know and for you to find out!

[Flow Alpha]

Thanks mario.

Alpha, I feel like I know you and am able to read you better if you tell me your main. Refusal to do so is a clear lack of transparency, which is favorable to scum.

More votes, please.

I'm actually new to this site. I played one game here under the name Maybrony (and oh god, that game was awful). I was VT that game.

[Flow Alpha]

@Tiershift Because I think that 17 is c h i l l b r o s, gut feeling says that this is pushing a Town agenda.

If you feel like meta-diving will help you figure out this game, then I'm fine with revealing.

Let us know if you find anything.

You probably won't get anything with sample size=1 though.

[Flow Alpha]

Flowwagon is probably the only way we're going to win this.

[Flow Alpha]

alpha tried a random lynch within the first 10 minutes

Are you not familiar with the concept of an RVS vote?

[Flow Alpha]

alpha tried a random lynch within the first 10 minutes

Are you not familiar with the concept of an RVS vote?

yes but the person who starts the RVS tends to be scum

If we started the RVS, but you thought starting a random lynch was scummy, what does that say about you? Were we random voting, or were we pushing for an early lynch? Make up your mind.

[Flow Alpha]

I AM BAD AT MAFIA RIP

Glad to see you acknowledge it.

Now, I'd really love a reasoned explanation of your thought processes to try to understand this whole mess.

[Flow Alpha]

Hardclaiming desperado

VOTE: tiershift
Those who don't vote will be executed by me.

Tiershift is confirmed mafia, there's no way a town member would be that scummy.

[Flow Alpha]

I'm willing to buy your claim, but please explain your TS read.

He's been acting so off the entire game. He's far too aggressive for any VT: probably scum trying to boldly push a mislynch.

[Flow Alpha]

Scummy play means scum in my book. I suggest we vote TierShift and quickhammer him ASAP so I can save my shot for his scum buddy.

[Flow Alpha]

VOTE: temp
Shooting mm4 if this doesn't work out. I'm guessing temp might be tiers buddy

[Flow Alpha]

unclaim desperado

[Flow Alpha]

Note to everyone: what I just did makes me completely unreadable.

KT is scum for sure, but temp is even stronger scum due to a refusal to claim. If temp claims good I'll vote KT.

Varian: vote temp. Go on, do it.

[Flow Alpha]

hardclaim daycop

Might as well come clean. I didn't want to do this but since you guys pressured me I don't have a choice any more. I'm a daycop, I'm supposed to send a day PM to the mod telling him who I'm investigating. The report was that Tiershift was Guilty, which is why I was so adamant about lynching him earlier until I realised you guys didn't believe me.

I could be a paranoid or insane cop though, it never said.

[Flow Alpha]

Its a two-shot ability.

[Flow Alpha]

How about you either vote or shoot the guy who has a cop guilty on him

Or at least ask him for a claim

[Flow Alpha]

Oh, wait, just realized there isn't a daycop in the setup.

My claim still remains though.

[Flow Alpha]

I'm a vengeful townie, so its unwise to shoot me.

[Flow Alpha]

full list of reads

Edosurist, mm4, varian, kt : town

tiershift, temp : scum

once I flip town you will know who to lynch

[Flow Alpha]

might as well say that we should shoot/lynch kt for being new

[Flow Alpha]

We're not lynching you flow stop being a lazy crybaby and play the actual game instead of condoning your own lynch.

you don't want to lynch me because you know that you'll be outed as scum once I flip town tho

I've been playing the correct game the entire way at a level far beyond any of you

[Flow Alpha]

@Flow
How does your flip incriminate TS?

Because then you'll know my reads list was in good faith and not a scum's read list, and then attention will be called to TS, who will slip and die. It's the natural cycle of mafia; nothing against him as a person.

TS: The reason you are trying to halt my lynch is either because you fear my reads list being publicized or you think that it would look good for you to be the guy who advocated not to lynch a townie.

[Flow Alpha]

I honestly think dayvig should shoot TS, because he's my top scumread.

[Flow Alpha]

Might as well

Despvote: TierShift

[Flow Alpha]

Who's scum, varian, and why aren't you trying to get him/her lynched?

Is there a reason that, out of everything you possibly could have asked me, you asked something that should already be very clear by a) reading my ISO and b) noting the lack of recent activity by my scum suspects? Should I force myself to come up with questions to ask scum suspects who aren't here rather than letting questions occur to me naturally (such as now)? Would you rather I make a post every hour, "hey, just as a reminder, I still think temp and KT are scummy and you should all vote one of them"? Because I'm not going to flood the thread any more than it's already being flooded.

This looks like you're pressuring me for the sake of looking like you're putting pressure on someone (and because I said I'd answer questions if you had any) and not an actual genuine, organic question. My reads have been pretty clear with the exception of some of my town/null reads, which I prefer to keep close to my chest if they're not being pressured/wagoned.

I kind of think desperado voting is dumb, but eh,

despvote: KT

So you're saying that you don't want to reveal all your reads to town

in other words you're hiding something

what does town gain by you having your town/nulls close to your chest?

[Flow Alpha]

In other news, Maybrony was helpful and logical as town in Newbie 1632.
In this game she's frankly the opposite.

What does this tell you?

Im trying out a new playing style

[Flow Alpha]

KT, chill. No need to make a separate post for

every single goddamn quote.

[Flow Alpha]

KTCreeper

Get a fucking avatar and stop posting for every quote, holy fucking shit.

[Flow Alpha]

Tier is scum. KT is an idiot. I'm a god who's going to carry all of you. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Flow Alpha]

UNVOTE: temp
VOTE: ALPHA

those post were so scumish i mean "i am a god that will carry all of you" thats so scum

So saying the truth is scummy?

Im not the one trying to sabotage town by flooding the system with multiposts

[Flow Alpha]

If you're going to keep this up, go back to All Any. You have the highest post count with the least actual useful content.

[Flow Alpha]

kt is a great policy lynch so all scum will be pushing for his lynch to get a free mislynch

[Flow Alpha]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: KTCreeper

I cannot deal with this fucking child any longer, excuse my language but at some point we are going to need to policy lynch this poor excuse of a player.

[Flow Alpha]

へ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ノ凸 vote the child please, i cannot stand him.

[Flow Alpha]

Given your behaviour throughout the game, I really, really, doubt this. Do you have any links to said games?

[Flow Alpha]

TierShift i hope you are shooting the child.

へ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ノ凸

[Flow Alpha]

Tier, I thought Desperado could only shoot during the day?

[Flow Alpha]

Terrible choice. へ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ノ凸

I cannot focus and stunt on the scum with KTCreeper alive. s0rry.

[Flow Alpha]

Im town reading Edo and kmd, leaning scum on KT (but could easily be just newbie town).

This sounds like a hedge to me. You're leaning scum on KT, but leave a "could be newbie town" qualification as a way to weasel out of committment. I'm confused as to where you stand with him?

I dont get Flow at all, but I dont think he is scum actually, I dont see scum motivation behind his claims (well, it would get to a WIFOM thing).

Sounds like you're trying to cast doubt on me, while at the same time, not saying I'm scum.

I can only see this being useful to scum, because scum need to broaden the suspect pool while not taking any responsibility for a lynch gone wrong.

I agree with a LexTrew shot or lynch at this point.

[Flow Alpha]

Alpha, why'd you say Lex was a terrible choice in post 309, but then in 311 you not only support it but sound like you didn't know it happened already?

Cat's out of the bag. We're quite obviously a hydra, if you couldn't already tell by the radically different posting styles and some jumpy opinions here and there such as in 309 and 311 (due to each of us having different ideas).

I won't reveal the other members of the hydra unless I get their consent.

[Flow Alpha]

Ummm.

Did the Mod know that? How many heads are there?

4

[Flow Alpha]

Why on earth would you shoot Lex? Temp was such a better shot.

Ugh.

Lex, post reads since you're confirmed and dying tonight.

Meanwhile -

VOTE: temp

[Flow Alpha]

We're lynching KT you idiots.

[Flow Alpha]

We're not even voting KT here, come on. The vote is still on Temp. Who, I might add, is more likely to be scum than KT.

Besides, he's been prodded. With any luck, the "child" be gone soon.

[Flow Alpha]

If KT doesn't respond to his prod in about 4 hours, he'll be replaced, probably because he forgot about the game or ragequit. I doubt he'd make it to LYLO at this rate.

[Flow Alpha]

Let's lynch mm4 the "lets jump on free mislynches and hope noone notices" man, and let kt get booted for inactivity. We can talk to his replacement for some real content later.

VOTE: mm4

[Flow Alpha]

I'm also doing some reading/ISO-ing.

Pre-reading, I'm leaning towards mm4, as that was my inclination yesterday.

However, I think it's best to reevaluate my reads in light of the recent flips.

[Flow Alpha]

Mario is evil.

VOTE: mm4

[Flow Alpha]

prod dodge.

I have nothing more to add, mm4 is still mafia

[Flow Alpha]

In Edos' ISO, I notice:
-he advocated against the Alpha wagon on Page 2, but jumped on two posts later. Probably RVS shenanigans
-called mario the closest thing he had to a scum read. Explained it fine when I questioned him on it
-seemed to believe KT was scum, or at least scummier than Mario, when voting him for opportunism
-asked Tier "why would new town" make the vote that KT made. This doesn't sound like KT's scumbuddy
-continues a strong push against KT
-I actually find it interesting that when Alpha fakeclaimed desperado, Edos wanted Temp shot rather than KT

-the all cap LOL when Alpha retracted the claim doesn't sound like the frustration town should have there. Then again, he doesn't seem to buy the retraction so........

-I understand his logic for wanting temp shot once he explains it.
-seems to drop KT as a suspect for no apparent reason after Tier's shot. I see this in his Temp vote, questioning of my KT scum read, and saying he'd vote Temp or Mario at deadline.

I think the "LOL" is more of a sigh of exasperation, when it was followed by a "Jesus Christ."

@Edosurist, why the change of heart towards MM4 after a strong push on KT for the majority of Day 1?