Mini 1697 - a Re-balanced Game of Mafia - GAME OVER

[Alchemist21]

@Thesp, did you see my response to your AA question in 1311?

[RadiantCowbells]

So if your current argument is seriously based off of word choice, you need to, I don't know, maybe get a better argument?

This is garbage and tantamount to a scum claim.

Just lol.
You seem to be not making sense literally 90% of the game.
If it is your scum tactic it works fine.

If it's my scum tactic?

So is it or isn't it? What's this supposed to mean?

Nether is just throwing this out to discredit while he waits to see where crowd mentality is at.

Notice that after the Ank thing died out he hasn't give any reads anywhere; as well, the one thing he said DURING the Ank wagon was that me and All Alone were scum for defending him.

Considering that now he thinks Ank is town, you'd expect some sort of revision of that theory, but none.

[RadiantCowbells]

Vote fucking Netherspite, jesus.

[Ankamius]

Nether: List all your reads from scummiest to towniest.

[BBmolla]

Official Vote Count

Ankamius

(2): pistachi0n, davesaz

davesaz

(2): Thesp, Alchemist21,

Nethersprite

(1): RadiantCowbells,

Alchemist21

(1): St Constantine the Hermit

pistachi0n

(1): All Alone

Not Voting

(0): Ankamius, Netherspite,

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2015-08-29 14:20:00)[/u]

[Netherspite]

@RadiantCowbells

You didn't start to make any sense since my unvote on

Ankamius

so the point stays.
This is not neccessarily scummy, may be it's just dumb town.

@Ankamius

SCUM
davesaz
All Alone
RadiantCowbells
pistachi0n
Ankamius
Thesp
Alchemist21
St Constantine
TOWN

[Thesp]

Ankamius, in case you missed it, do you mind responding to this (especially in light of the impending deadline)?

You think All Alone simply read past what was being said on Thursday and Friday when he posted on Friday, or wasn't interested in what was being said there? I'm explicitly talking about his Friday post, not being gone over the weekend.

Also, what do you think of davesaz's 4th vote on you here?

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@Thesp, did you see my response to your AA question in 1311?

I did. I instinctively disagree with you, but I don't know what more I can say on that point.

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I still hold davesaz to be the best lynch today. I will switch to Ankamius if needed, or Netherspite if desperately needed (though I don't want to). I won't vote for Alchemist21 or pistachi0n today.

Ankamius and Netherspite need to get votes down pronto.

[pistachi0n]

@RC-Now you're saying that me calling your argument bad is a scum claim?

[Alchemist21]

@RadiantCowbells

You didn't start to make any sense since my unvote on

Ankamius

so the point stays.
This is not neccessarily scummy, may be it's just dumb town.

@Ankamius

SCUM
davesaz
All Alone
RadiantCowbells
pistachi0n
Ankamius
Thesp
Alchemist21
St Constantine
TOWN

Why do you personallt think Dave is scum, and why aren't you voting him?

[davesaz]

I'm still town, and town are still going to lose if they don't wake up.

Thesp, why not Alchemist?

[RadiantCowbells]

Davesaz, why not Netherspite?

Note that as soon as crowd mentality went in favour of a lynch on you, you became his #1 scumread.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, the fact is that were Netherspite town, scum would be all over this as an opportunity to push a mislynch and pin the blame on me.

Numerous people have expressed less than savoury reads on him but no one has voted him and I can't get any momentum going.

This is scum for sure.

[Netherspite]

Davesaz, why not Netherspite?

Note that as soon as crowd mentality went in favour of a lynch on you, you became his #1 scumread.

Crowd mentality also has

Thesp

and

Alchemist21

as scummy. Why didn't I put them as scum?

Also, all top 3 of my scumlist are equally scummy for me but not scummy enough to place my vote yet.
I still have to decide who of them to vote.

[RadiantCowbells]

Look at this god awful misrep.

Crowd mentality doesn't have Alchemist as scummy at all, no one is pushing for his lynch.
A few people have expressed minor suspicions of Thesp but there's no momentum there and the stronger town players defend him.

Also, all top 3 of my scumlist are equally scummy for me but not scummy enough to place my vote yet.

IE, let me wait for someone else to start a wagon then I'll jump on it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, he's not even fucking trying.

[Netherspite]

It's actually you who is misrepping here.
Crowd has not even slightly stronger suspicion towards

davesaz

than to

Thesp

yet you're accusing me for choosing him to put on the top of my scumlist.
Also, I am voting those who I am suspecting and I don't care whether they're being suspected by the crowd or not. When I voted

Ankamius

he was not even close to being a leading wagon. Same applies to

eventi

.

Anyway, I got it. Whatever I say you will turn it up as scummy. So yes, why even fucking try explaining something to you if you already made a decision that you want to mislynch me today.

[All Alone]

Can we flash wagon pistachi0n?

I'm not really townreading Ank right now, it's just that there are others I think are scummier. But sure, why not.

VOTE: Ankamius

That was eight days ago, and since then she's left her vote on Ankamius while doing absolutely nothing useful with that vote. A townie who was wagoning someone for pressure would definitely be following up on it. She hasn't. The Ankamius wagon is dying, and she doesn't seem to notice or care. I really don't see any town motivation for that.

[Alchemist21]

Well we have to do something. We only have 1 day left. I still prefer Dave but could switch to pistachion if necessary.

@Netherspite, you didn't answer my question.

[Netherspite]

Well we have to do something. We only have 1 day left. I still prefer Dave but could switch to pistachion if necessary.

@Netherspite, you didn't answer my question.

I did.
It was in my answer to

RadiantCowbells

.
I equally consider top 3 in my list scummy.
I still didn't decide who to vote of them.

[Thesp]

Thesp, why not Alchemist?

He's felt very natural to me today, particularly in the last several pages and his evolving thoughts on Ankamius. I have no desire for his lynch at all.

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Can we flash wagon pistachi0n?

Nope. No desire for that, nor do I think that pushing

yet another

wagon at this point makes

any

sense right now with a day left before deadline. (It's also maddening that we have a replacement who seems to have no interest in playing this game.)

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UNVOTE: davesaz
VOTE: Ankamius

It's a terrible time to be avoiding this thread with meaningful contribution and no vote. It sure looks like he's hoping the wagon on him just dissipates, while he keeps a lynch from happening by not contributing. I'm going to try to be around today, but the deadline on Saturday is a terrible time for me, so I'd like to wrap this up now.

Also:

Mod: Please consider this a request to replace St Constantine the Hermit.

If he has no desire to play this game, he really shouldn't be occupying one of the critical votes needed to lynch a player right now.

[pistachi0n]

That was eight days ago, and since then she's left her vote on Ankamius while doing absolutely nothing useful with that vote. A townie who was wagoning someone for pressure would definitely be following up on it. She hasn't. The Ankamius wagon is dying, and she doesn't seem to notice or care. I really don't see any town motivation for that.

I'm not currently wagoning Ank for pressure. I'm wagoning Ank because I don't want a no lynch. I would prefer davesaz or RC at this point. But now it's even more crucial we don't have a mislynch because we don't have a ton of time left.

[Thesp]

That was eight days ago, and since then she's left her vote on Ankamius while doing absolutely nothing useful with that vote. A townie who was wagoning someone for pressure would definitely be following up on it. She hasn't. The Ankamius wagon is dying, and she doesn't seem to notice or care. I really don't see any town motivation for that.

I'm not currently wagoning Ank for pressure. I'm wagoning Ank because I don't want a no lynch. I would prefer davesaz or RC at this point. But now it's even more crucial we don't have a mislynch because we don't have a ton of time left.

Why didn't you switch your vote to davesaz when there were two people on davesaz, and you were one of only two on Ankamius?

[pistachi0n]

That was eight days ago, and since then she's left her vote on Ankamius while doing absolutely nothing useful with that vote. A townie who was wagoning someone for pressure would definitely be following up on it. She hasn't. The Ankamius wagon is dying, and she doesn't seem to notice or care. I really don't see any town motivation for that.

I'm not currently wagoning Ank for pressure. I'm wagoning Ank because I don't want a no lynch. I would prefer davesaz or RC at this point. But now it's even more crucial we don't have a mislynch because we don't have a ton of time left.

Why didn't you switch your vote to davesaz when there were two people on davesaz, and you were one of only two on Ankamius?

I was starting to get more enthusiastic about voting for Ankamius when he claimed he knew Davesaz is town. At that point there were two people on Ank aside from me, and two people on davesaz, and I was feeling ambivalent. But as of 1326 I was scum-reading him less. What's the current vote count? If there would be a davesaz majority I'll switch my vote.

[Thesp]

That was eight days ago, and since then she's left her vote on Ankamius while doing absolutely nothing useful with that vote. A townie who was wagoning someone for pressure would definitely be following up on it. She hasn't. The Ankamius wagon is dying, and she doesn't seem to notice or care. I really don't see any town motivation for that.

I'm not currently wagoning Ank for pressure. I'm wagoning Ank because I don't want a no lynch. I would prefer davesaz or RC at this point. But now it's even more crucial we don't have a mislynch because we don't have a ton of time left.

Why didn't you switch your vote to davesaz when there were two people on davesaz, and you were one of only two on Ankamius?

I was starting to get more enthusiastic about voting for Ankamius when he claimed he knew Davesaz is town. At that point there were two people on Ank aside from me, and two people on davesaz, and I was feeling ambivalent. But as of 1326 I was scum-reading him less. What's the current vote count? If there would be a davesaz majority I'll switch my vote.

Since the votecount here, the only change I see is that I moved to Ankamius, putting him at 3 (and the only candidate with more than 1 vote). You can get a reasonably accurate votecount at any time by going here and putting in the url for this game:

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62630

That said, I have no desire to move my vote off of Ankamius with him avoiding this thread now, and with what seems to be reluctance to get a lynch together right now when he's the candidate with the most votes.

[Ankamius]

I'm getting to this tonight.