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[Scorpious]

Shinobi, I think he's fucking with you man,you're kinda jumpy..

[Shinobi]

lol, How does any of that add up to being scum?

Which part?
The "you're not really doing anything" part or the "unexplained scumread" part? I think both of those things are enough to warrant votes/rope.

Assuming you disagree with that assessment, what else would you propose?

Pedit: I'm sort of aware of that but I'm really tired of staring at nothing and I really wanna do stuff.
SO.
Let's do stuff.

[Spiffeh]

Ok
VOTE: catboi

[Scorpious]

Pedit: I'm sort of aware of that but I'm really tired of staring at nothing and I really wanna do stuff.
SO.
Let's do stuff.

Very fair,lets do stuff.

So being "sort of aware" that he's poking your onions. Why is Catboi(who's avi I want to punch ) more scum for "doing" nothing,than those that have literally done nothing?

How is he more scum than Radiant who used the same phrase and also voted you.

lets start here..

[Shinobi]

Pedit: I'm sort of aware of that but I'm really tired of staring at nothing and I really wanna do stuff.
SO.
Let's do stuff.

Very fair,lets do stuff.

So being "sort of aware" that he's poking your onions. Why is Catboi(who's avi I want to punch ) more scum for "doing" nothing,than those that have literally done nothing?

How is he more scum than Radiant who used the same phrase and also voted you.

lets start here..

Radiant is also on my list, though he has remained unmentioned only because catboi was around and RC supposedly wasn't.
I doubt both scum would use a similar phrase and associate with each other so early so I'm most likely wrong somewhere, but I intend to find out where.

What do you think of these two players?

[Scorpious]

I honestly think Cat is just trying to get a reaction from you.Seems like you,wants to get shit goin,but he' going about it in a different way. Way too early to form anything of substance. I'm personally not a fan of that style,but whatever.

I have nothing on Radiant. Nothing there yet. I guess I.myself am somewhat curious what "Scum line" is..

[Shinobi]

Is there some other set of suspects that you'd form at this stage?
Who else catches your interest?

[catboi]

lol, How does any of that add up to being scum?

Which part?
The "you're not really doing anything" part or the "unexplained scumread" part? I think both of those things are enough to warrant votes/rope.

Assuming you disagree with that assessment, what else would you propose?

Pedit: I'm sort of aware of that but I'm really tired of staring at nothing and I really wanna do stuff.
SO.
Let's do stuff.

Not really doing anything on page 2 is a scumtell? Great argument, that. Please try to explain how this applies to me, and not every single player in the game. As for not explaining my vote, when do scum actually vote someone without explanation? Again, what's the actual scumtell here? Lol. You've named off some things, but none of that poses an actual connection to, you know, scum motivation.

Are you just making things up to try to lynch me? 'cause that's what it looks like~

[Scorpious]

Well,I can't look at votes,I'm assuming most of them are BS anyway..

I guess if I had to reach,the only thing of any interest would be:

This slot getting a replacement

You being so antsy

and the "covenant" thing. I don't see why you would bring up an inside joke. You know you're going to get questioned on it..

[Shinobi]

I fail to see how I'm making anything up about your general uselessness. Do you think that being useless is not a trait exhibited by mafia? Where else would you prefer I focus?

[RadiantCowbells]

Scorpious is likely town but likely dumb town.

Shinobi is probably scum and has done nothing to make me scumread him less.

[Scorpious]

Scorpious is likely town but likely dumb town.

Nice.. Why?

[Shinobi]

Scorpious is likely town but likely dumb town.

Shinobi is probably scum and has done nothing to make me scumread him less.

Why?
To either of those reads.

[JeanDarc]

VOTE: cowbells
until he explains his reads

[catboi]

I fail to see how I'm making anything up about your general uselessness. Do you think that being useless is not a trait exhibited by mafia? Where else would you prefer I focus?

That wasn't what I asked you questions about, don't dodge. I'm asking you to explain the scum motivation behind the things you're accusing me of. I don't see how "uselessness" is a scum tell especially given

the game's just started

. This is weak, weak stuff.

And I'll also add that anyone who genuinely believes I'm being useless is a dunce~

Really, If you'd like to start making sense that would be fine by me, but if you want to make stoopid arguments on non-tells that are thinly veiled OMGUS, be my guest.

[Shinobi]

I fail to see how I'm making anything up about your general uselessness. Do you think that being useless is not a trait exhibited by mafia? Where else would you prefer I focus?

That wasn't what I asked you questions about, don't dodge. I'm asking you to explain the scum motivation behind the things you're accusing me of. I don't see how "uselessness" is a scum tell especially given

the game's just started

. This is weak, weak stuff.

And I'll also add that anyone who genuinely believes I'm being useless is a dunce~

Really, If you'd like to start making sense that would be fine by me, but if you want to make stoopid arguments on non-tells that are thinly veiled OMGUS, be my guest.

You didn't ask me any questions, iirc. What did I dodge?
If you want to argue that you're not being useless, what would you propose I do with my vote?

Fixating on talking about scum motivation isn't really anything.

[Spiffeh]

As for not explaining my vote, when do scum actually vote someone without explanation?

Do you really think this is a valid explanation? If you truly believe this, what's stopping anyone from just naked voting the whole game without explanation? That would make them town according to your logic.

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: cowbells
until he explains his reads

Until I explain my reads?

So when I explain my reads your opinion on my alignment will change?

[catboi]

Not really doing anything on page 2 is a scumtell?

Great argument, that.

Please try to explain how this applies to me, and not every single player in the game.

As for not explaining my vote,

when do scum actually vote someone without explanation?

Again, what's the actual scumtell here?

Lol. You've named off some things, but none of that poses an actual connection to, you know, scum motivation.

You're ducking these. Hard.

And talking about scum motivation is everything given you can't seem to come up with a decent explanation for

why anything I've done makes me scum

despite seemingly having a strong conviction. I'm looking for a clue as to whether you actually believe anything you're saying.

p-edit:

As for not explaining my vote, when do scum actually vote someone without explanation?

Do you really think this is a valid explanation? If you truly believe this, what's stopping anyone from just naked voting the whole game without explanation? That would make them town according to your logic.

That wasn't strictly rhetorical, I actually wanted to hear an answer. Of course, I never actually argued votes never need to be explained. But sometimes it's more useful to not explain things overmuch. In general, "voting without explanation" is a crap tell used by people who don't know better - and right now I'm trying to suss out whether Shinobi actually believes what he's saying or is just trying to push back on me due to feeling threatened.

[catboi]

also,

I honestly think Cat is just trying to get a reaction from you.Seems like you,wants to get shit goin,but he' going about it in a different way. Way too early to form anything of substance. I'm personally not a fan of that style,but whatever.

I have nothing on Radiant. Nothing there yet. I guess I.myself am somewhat curious what "Scum line" is..

While I wish you wouldn't step on my toes, you're obvtown, so that's nice.

VOTE: cowbells
until he explains his reads

This is town. Silly, but town.

[RadiantCowbells]

I've seen such comments from scum before, especially given that we are likely pressuring his buddy if he's scum.

Not saying he's scum, just saying that it's pretty possible to go either way.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't like Catboi parcelling out townreads.

[catboi]

I did two and one's on a person you've also stated is town. Come on.

[JeanDarc]

@RC (radiantcowbells) is there someone you've played with before here that you could use meta on? I've only replaced into a game in which you were tunneled and lynched D1 - besides that, everyone else is a newface to me.

[Ranmaru]

Votecount 1.3

Shinobi:

catboi, RadiantCowbells

Scorpious:

Lextrew, Kyubey The Kid

Spiffeh
JeanDarc:

vijay2vasandani

LexTrew
vijay2vasandani:
Kyubey The Kid
RadiantCowbells:

JeanDarc

catboi:

Scorpious, Shinobi, Spiffeh

Not Voting

:
No one.

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