Mini Normal 1707 - Frog Mafia! - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN!

[Fro99er]

(expired on 2015-09-04 08:30:00)

(Fri Sep 4 @ 8:30:00 AM EST)

VOTECOUNT 2.03

• (1)

  Malakittens

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  notscience
  
  (2)

  ika

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  Malakittens, BlueBloodedToffee
  
  (0)

  Metal Sonic

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  (1)

  shaddowez

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  zakk
  
  (0)

  AxleGreaser

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  (0)

  BlueBloodedToffee

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  (4)

  Shiro

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  AxleGreaser, Scorpious, shaddowez, singersigner
  
  (0)

  Scorpious

  —
  
  
  (0)

  notscience

  —
  
  
  (0)

  zakk

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  (0)

  VeeGee

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  (0)

  singersigner

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  (4)

  (NOT VOTING)

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  ika, Metal Sonic, Shiro, VeeGee
  
  With
  12

  alive
  , it takes
  7

  votes
  to lynch.
  

[ika]

UNVOTE:

fixed

[Fro99er]

i already privided my imput

UNVOTE: UNVOTE:

cus i reserve rights to hammer

Counting this as an unvote

[Malakittens]

I'm over Zakk's attitude.

Zakk either vote me or leave me be.

Singer why are you voting Shiro?

[shaddowez]

zakk

- Your train of thought in 956 makes absolutely no sense. There was no mention of it being a crumb or not until you brought it up. Regardless of whether it was a crumb or not, bringing attention to it looks like you're PR hunting.

As for 957.
I'm going to refer to each of the post quotes as points so as to not clutter up the post:

Point 1

- The VeeGee lynch doesn't appear to be going anywhere, and while I still think he's scum (no backtracking, or doubletalk, or anything else to mince my words), I don't want my vote just sitting somewhere it's not going to help town. He's not my only scum read, so I unvoted (and moved my vote to another target, in the same post). Why are you so convinced the Shiro wagon won't go through? You and your other scumbuddies won't vote for them?

Points 2, 3, and 4

- You claim you're going to put my case "back in context", and then instead of actually addressing any of the things I say about you, just go "Well, Axle's not doing this"

Point 5

- Opening discussion is not in and of itself scummy. However, it allows for you to appear active when you're not actually doing anything but asking questions, and gives you the ability to fall back on "safe" answers when you don't actually follow through with them. For example: 26, you ask NS why singer over Mala, no follow up. 112 you ask me about my intro vote, then don't engage with me about that part at all, just answer a question I asked you in 144. In 166 you address Mala about NS, she replies in 173, no more from you. I can provide more if you'd like.

lest they receive numerous and devastating backlashy remarks from one and all about how they are a terrible person,

Point 6

- So you're attempting to protect Mala from being berated by...berating her? Makes sense to me.

Point 7

- I like how you say early on in the post you're going to put things in context, and then take things out of context to talk about them. I didn't find you suspecting VeeGee as scummy. What I found scummy was your claim of "reading people well on D1", followed by moving your vote off of Maxwell (who ended up flipping scum) onto a wagon that wasn't going anywhere when a lynch was near imminent.

Nice OMGUS vote there, btw.

[Metal Sonic]

Not very impressed

[shaddowez]

Btw shadow do you realise what you are saying?

If you believe I am scum with VeeGee then you are saying I spend my day 1 pushing my partner then stopped to push my other partner only to go back and hammer the earlier.

I can see how someone can townread VeeGee and scum read me but scum read both of us? Sorry but that is dumb.

First off, didn't outright say I thought he was your partner. I made a comment about having to know the alignment of the other person...I can definitely see how scum could jump to that conclusion though.

You don't actually have a very strong push on Max at any point during the day, unless I'm completely missing something (and please feel free to provide links if I am.). You vote VeeGee early on as a lurker/pressure vote, and don't make any indication of thinking he's scum until the wagon has a little bit of steam. Then, without ever having voted Max earlier in the day, you come in, state intent, and then hammer 10 minutes later. Saying "I stated intent" isn't a valid defense when you still stole time from discussion.

Overall her play there feels more relaxed than it did here but I don't recall many if any people in that game truly townreading her, but I could be wrong so I'll check tonight.

NS, did you ever get a chance to do this?

Not very impressed

With what, exactly?

[shaddowez]

@Mod

- Typical V/LA until Sunday night

[notscience]

No.

I'll get to it tomorrow after class.

[zakk]

zakk

- Your train of thought in 956 makes absolutely no sense. There was no mention of it being a crumb or not until you brought it up. Regardless of whether it was a crumb or not, bringing attention to it looks like you're PR hunting.

As for 957.
I'm going to refer to each of the post quotes as points so as to not clutter up the post:

Point 1

- The VeeGee lynch doesn't appear to be going anywhere, and while I still think he's scum (no backtracking, or doubletalk, or anything else to mince my words), I don't want my vote just sitting somewhere it's not going to help town. He's not my only scum read, so I unvoted (and moved my vote to another target, in the same post). Why are you so convinced the Shiro wagon won't go through? You and your other scumbuddies won't vote for them?

Points 2, 3, and 4

- You claim you're going to put my case "back in context", and then instead of actually addressing any of the things I say about you, just go "Well, Axle's not doing this"

Point 5

- Opening discussion is not in and of itself scummy. However, it allows for you to appear active when you're not actually doing anything but asking questions, and gives you the ability to fall back on "safe" answers when you don't actually follow through with them. For example: 26, you ask NS why singer over Mala, no follow up. 112 you ask me about my intro vote, then don't engage with me about that part at all, just answer a question I asked you in 144. In 166 you address Mala about NS, she replies in 173, no more from you. I can provide more if you'd like.

lest they receive numerous and devastating backlashy remarks from one and all about how they are a terrible person,

Point 6

- So you're attempting to protect Mala from being berated by...berating her? Makes sense to me.

Point 7

- I like how you say early on in the post you're going to put things in context, and then take things out of context to talk about them. I didn't find you suspecting VeeGee as scummy. What I found scummy was your claim of "reading people well on D1", followed by moving your vote off of Maxwell (who ended up flipping scum) onto a wagon that wasn't going anywhere when a lynch was near imminent.

Nice OMGUS vote there, btw.

Cool, soooo, I don't really care about any of this and I didn't read it buuuut

how did that post you just replied to, change your read on me, if at all?

[zakk]

I'm over Zakk's attitude.

Zakk either vote me or leave me be.

Singer why are you voting Shiro?

So I can't suspect you unless I'm already voting you?

Lol you're really bad at this mafia thing

You don't use your votes to lynch scum asap on d1 and d2, you use them to gain information

Lynching scum two days running early on is disastrous for town because the last scum has no one left to make associative tells with, and they also know who to kill and how to avoid lynches from the rest of the patsies

It's much better if you lynch town on Day 1 and/or 2 because then you get WAY more info for nailing scum as a team

Winning mafia as town isn't about getting two booya lynches and then getting picked off one by one until you lose endgame because the single scum has had all game to study town without interference of, reliance on, or unwitting attachment to scum buddies

It's about getting ALL the scum, and getting ALL the information you can, within reason

And since you're sooooo town, you shouldn't be encouraging me to allegedly waste a vote on you, at all, regardless of whether it's part of some ill conceived ultimatum designed to get people to suspect you less and/or get off your case

Anyway, no. You're still on the radar, and I'm going to continue to make pot shots

[AxleGreaser]

It's about getting ALL the scum, and getting ALL the information you can, within reason

and thus you find Shiro's hammer really very bad?

[Shiro]

Shadow I was voting the slot since before max was in the game saying I never voted him before the hammer is BS

Also what you just said to zakk is worse, you ask if he thinks my lynch won't go through becau he and his buddy won't vote me

a rhetoric question implying that you think Zakk is scum with someone other than me.

You say I am not scum with VeeGee and neither zakk but we 3 are your top scum

Shadow can you give me your potential scum team?

[AxleGreaser]

You say I am not scum with VeeGee and neither zakk but we 3 are your top scum

hes VLA so to speed this up.
I think you are suggesting he said {Shiro Zak

Max

} scum is ruled out please quote where you think he said that.

[Shiro]

Why are you so convinced the Shiro wagon won't go through? You and your other scumbuddies won't vote for them?

Here axl

THIS rhetoric question to zakk bloody implies that he think Zakk is scum with someone other than me or else it would make no sense.

[AxleGreaser]

Why are you so convinced the Shiro wagon won't go through? You and your other scumbuddies won't vote for them?

Here axl

THIS rhetoric question to zakk bloody implies that he think Zakk is scum with someone other than me or else it would make no sense.

Ahhh. That is what is lighting you up.
Ok I will wait and see what he says about that.

because

STOP
ANSWERING
OTHER
PEOPLE'S
QUESTIONS.

PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

is a sentiment I mainly usually share. No oopsies for me. atm.

[AxleGreaser]

I will just mention

scumbuddies

itself is plural. That is already a lotta scum.

[Shiro]

I will just mention

scumbuddies

itself is plural. That is already a lotta scum.

I am not sure what you mean by that.

[Malakittens]

Anyway, no. You're still on the radar, and I'm going to continue to make pot shots

Yeah this whole post of yours bugs me.

You can win the game by lynching scum D1/2 and then another day after that.

Also I don't like the "I'm going to make pot shots thing". Rubs me the wrong way esp everytime you make a potshot you do it in order to berate/discredit/insult me and I don't like that either. I'm not a terrible player at all, in fact, I have games where I'm spot on. So you may wanna watch before calling me terrible again.

I'm trying to get you to stop posturing tbh.

[Malakittens]

ugh my work's system is down and i'm the only one here fml i don't know how to bring it up.

[Scorpious]

It's much better if you lynch town on Day 1 and/or 2 because then you get WAY more info for nailing scum as a team

please explain this a little more. The idiot in me is confused. Are you saying you would rather lynch town on D1 and maybe 2 for endgame purposes? Why would you EVER want to lynch town if you are in fact; town.

[Malakittens]

'cuz hes scum, duh

[Shiro]

I object to the statement that I am easy lynchbait

Objection your honor





Objection

Object all you want zakk won't change the truth


There are people that are town and appear so
There are people that are town and appear null
There are people that are town and appear scummy
And then there is you.

[singersigner]

Apathy is awesome. Hope you're singing this in my sing songy voice. Because lalala lala lalala.

Sorry having another bad week and only really skimming. I will still lynch from my pool of five (four?) of people decide on one of them.

@mod...V/LA 8/31-9/3.

[ika]

'cuz hes VI , duh

fixed