Mini 1706 - Pula Mafia (over)

[superbowl9]

So... you think town would scum claim like that?

[Lalendra]

Sorry I've been quiet, work has been crazy. Will read and respond tomorrow.

[Radja]

Radja's prob scum btw(gut)

your gut is very wrong.

[catboi]

Also a mafia traitor is allowed in notmal, but I really don't think scum would scum claim like that

So why are you voting him, then?



Got sick suddenly, going to try to do a full post but if I fall asleep it'll have to wait until the morning

[Loranthaceae]

(expired on 2015-09-01 00:00:00) (September 1^st 00:00 UTC)

Spoiler: source code

VC#2.06

superbowl9 (0)

St Constantine the Hermit*(4)

Firebringer, superbowl9, Malakittens, Bellaphant

Malakittens*(1)

Atum

Radja (0)

Firebringer (2)

Maxous, Lalendra,

Bellaphant (0)

catboi (0)

Lalendra (2)

Radja, St Constantine the Hermit

Maxous (0)

Atum*(0)

Not Voting

- catboi

#386-#554: 03-06 01-06 13-03 09-06 11-06 10-06 07-06 04-10 02-10 06-02 03-11 01-02 03-02 07-02

*=prod

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

St Constantine the Hermit has 2 prods left till he goes marching out

[St Constantine the Hermit]

Goddamn it! Stop prodding me!

I am never playing in Little Italy again. The mods here are way to pushy.

[Radja]

This game has 7 day deadlines and you're not posting for 2 days, I don't consider that pushy at all.

[Bellaphant]

UNVOTE:

I need a little time to warm up to FB. I have no feelings about ST. C's predecessor, but their play this day phase has not given my town-feels

VOTE: StCtH

@fire, who's scum?

What haven't you liked about Constantine's play? How do you feel about firebringer now?

He comes in with a joke about being scum, then says he has to scum-hunt, and doesn't. The hammer dicking about was just...strange, and then his ready agreement to fire's assessment of his meta is poor. I'm voting him because I didn't have a town-read on his predecessor (who I've only seen in town games) and he hasn't made any effort to process or progress the game.

In terms of fire, I need a while to get a decent read, and to undo the damage on his slot done before. I'm leaving that open

Still don't really understand this at all. You want to lynch him for not voting you?

As I understand it firebringer has played with constnatine before and is using meta to make a read that as town, Constantine usually does the most anti-town thing, which in that situation would have been to hammer elusive. Since he didn't hammer elusive, bringer therefore concludes that constantine must be scum (I don't agree with this logic, but I think he's scum in the end so I guess we agree).

Yeah, or he didn't wanna hammer his scum buddy (associatives before flips are bad, we know, but even so , Const's flip will also help me read fire.)

Radja's prob scum btw(gut)

@mala, you've done this a few times now - thrown out reads without any evidence/thought process being extroverted. It's starting to really worry me.

I'm also FOS-ing Lel for their constantly shifting apparent scum-reads with little follow up.

[Radja]

VOTE: St Constantine

[Radja]

That's L-1.

[catboi]

list, schmist:

town

malakittens - fairly sure of this, showsgenuine effort/attention, vote on maxous was useless but I think it came from a town place where she has a feeling of legitimate suspicion but doesn't know how to express it. Unlikely she'd fake that sort of feeling as scum, I think.

maxous - not sure why people are scumreading him. Terse posts, but he has takes on people, it's not all fluff. Pushed pretty strongly on the scorp wagon. Point on 392 was solid and Atum clearly ignored it, wish he'd followed up.

superbowl9 - posts have tailed off somewhat lately but I liked cautioning against a surprise hammer in 481, though I'd have liked it better if there was an actual unvote there. Wish he'd explain why he trusts mala in 423, is somewhat of an odd reason to be sheeping a wagon and he never really establishes why he townreads her before that. Still liked the way he started the game so I'm leaving him as town right now, will have to re-evauate after some time has passed.

null

Lalendra - Really disagree with her case on mala in 463 but I can at least follow the reasoning. In a vacuum what mala did might be suspicious but most people are reluctant to lynch a claimed PR so to me it's not really a tell. Still there's at least a sense of her looking for something to latch on to, not going with the flow. Not sure why I found her all that suspicious on day 1. Still need to see more before I'd be comfortable declaring her town.

bellaphant - ultra lurky, frankly not a lot to go by here. Not a lot of analysis, mostly talks about popular targets. Would like to know why she went from town-reading elu in 323 to voting her in 454. Don't really like how she's averse to drawing conclusions from analyzing interactions in 420, posts 468 and 482 waffles a lot on the lynch on elu without really stating whether she still thinks they're scum or not. Not a lot of strong conclusions here. Would like to see her post some reads, take some hard stances.

radja - Very little substance in most of his posts lately however I did find 486 to be a solid point. The lack of tangible reads beyond that bothers me quite a bit. Not sure why he'd find elusive town at all.

scum

atum - null/scum. worthless, excessevlely lurky, a lot of sniping in his posts like in 487. Don't like that sort of thing because he's just taking potshots without really explaining. Of course never follows up. His vote on malakittens stinks, there's seemingly little to no concern with doing anything productive. So far as I can tell, is voting malakittens because she said gray was a vig kill? Terrible vote (it obviously was a vig) and he's done basically nothing with it. Does make me pause that he was the first to call out Scorp in 127, though the way he did it was awkward. Real lack of any stances/action here, similar to bellaphant but worse essentially.

firebringer - not making a whole lot of sense to me, wish he'd explain his reads, still don't like the way elusive posted at all, interactions with scorp were troubling, the combination of 151 and 190 that I pointred out day 1 is especially troubling in light of how scorp flipped.

st constantine - predecessor was worthless, the fact that he flaked from this game while continuing to post in tohers is an incredibly strong scumtell, replacement seems to have completely disappeared as well after making a series of worthless posts (scum claim to me is totally neutral, was clearly a joke and could be made by either alignment). Ideally we'd lynch fire and vig this slot, but a vote isn't that much worse.

not really happy with these but it's the best I've been able to manage, going to try to do better n2.

[catboi]

Also, might as well say: intent to hammer st. constantine

[Lalendra]

Hmm, that's interesting.

Banakai, any defense?

I have to reread maxous, I don't remember anything super scummy, but I don't remember much he said at all, which is a problem in and of itself.

Maxous - U scum, bro? Defend yourself, plz&ty.

Also noteworthy was Scorp's 368 which is a fairly lengthy attack on mala, thinking that reads far more like a legit attack on her rather than a bus, contrasts strongly with him basically ignoring elu, typical mistake of inexperienced scum is to basically ignore their partners

I can buy that. These two points, combined with the lack of any real defense, are enough for me to vote.

VOTE: elusive

The combination of these 3 posts is bothering me.

How so?

[Lalendra]

Also, might as well say: intent to hammer st. constantine

Gah, you beat me to it.

[Maxous]

the hermit guy is obviously trolly but uhh, lynching Banakai's slot wouldn't be the worst move in the game.

st constantine - predecessor was worthless, the fact that he flaked from this game while continuing to post in others is an incredibly strong scumtell,

I didn't even realise this ^, which yes makes it look worse.

[Bellaphant]

? Bankai's slot is hermit? I'm a tad confused here.

@catboi, please explain that mala town-read, bc here's a stance for you: I disagree

[Maxous]

affirmative

[catboi]

@catboi, please explain that mala town-read, bc here's a stance for you: I disagree

Sure. Post I was referring to was 510, although it was a useless vote, the feeling of being wary of someone but not having the words to explain it is a relatable one, and not something I think she'd fake as scum - she'd be more likely to put down a vote with purpose. Even though I disagreed with her re: my claim vs. scorp's on day 1, the line of reasoning where she felt the two roles wouldn't be in the same setup seemed genuine to me. Also, the way scorpious pushed on her in 368 strikes me as unlikely to be a bus.

[Firebringer]

VOTE: St Constantine

You forgot to announce that this makes it L-1.

Hermit, ball is in your court.

[superbowl9]

VOTE: St Constantine

You forgot to announce that this makes it L-1.

Hermit, ball is in your court.

Looks like blind town or scum trying to gain points

[Firebringer]

VOTE: St Constantine

You forgot to announce that this makes it L-1.

Hermit, ball is in your court.

Looks like blind town or scum trying to gain points

blind town?

[superbowl9]

Reread the thread a little bit

[Firebringer]

lol, I am blind.
Okay, point taken.

[Radja]

Hmm, that's interesting.

Banakai, any defense?

I have to reread maxous, I don't remember anything super scummy, but I don't remember much he said at all, which is a problem in and of itself.

Maxous - U scum, bro? Defend yourself, plz&ty.

Also noteworthy was Scorp's 368 which is a fairly lengthy attack on mala, thinking that reads far more like a legit attack on her rather than a bus, contrasts strongly with him basically ignoring elu, typical mistake of inexperienced scum is to basically ignore their partners

I can buy that. These two points, combined with the lack of any real defense, are enough for me to vote.

VOTE: elusive

The combination of these 3 posts is bothering me.

How so?

no cases, asking for a defense. No followup and constantly shifting votes to see what sticks.

[Malakittens]

._.

Lalendra for scum 2015.